The one time he did greenwood almost scored. The one time tfm did, he was offside but it was a great ball in.
You do. And that takes well timed runs from the fullback. Which Shaw has been doing very well since restart. Our other fullbacks not so much. It’s a confidence thing. AWB and Williams are both in their first season, so will be desperate to avoid getting caught out of position. Don’t forget that Robertson took a while to settle at Liverpool before he started showing what he can do in attack.
I recall enough overlaps made by Williams, TFM and AWB.
Disagree with you here mate. I don't think that there were enough overlaps last night or across the season from our FBs. Whenever they do happen, Shaw is usually the one whose driving runs are the most effective.
Exactly what I was thinking last night and even against the palace game.
To be fair, Rashford and Shaw are actually quite good at this. Since the restart Rashford has been really diligent at holding the width, and he'll often thread a reverse pass or flick on to Shaw, or else make a run inside to leave space for Shaw. Martial does the same when he drifts over to the left.
Seems like the idea is to push our fullbacks far up, leaving space behind them for the ball to be given to Rashford, Greenwood etc and to work the ball into a shooting position through the middle
Exactly. And that's because Williams isn't a LB. He's a RB. Watch him when he plays on the right side. He overlaps a lot. On the left though, he likes to sit back and be a passing outlet because then it's more comfortable for him to turn to his preferred right foot. Just make the run. If he makes the run he doesn't have to get the ball. That run alone with pull a defender off Rashford and give him a 1 v 1...
Right footed LB should work if the player is at least moderately two footed. Cutting inside every time is reminiscent of Ashley Young. As it is, for us, the most dangerous play comes when the FB comes is picking someone out from close range (a cutback or fizzed ball) rather than crossing from deep.
I saw a couple of them, and Rashford misshit the passes on those ocassions. Is not all black or white, you know?
Successful and occasional overlaps is what I was going for. Yes, Rashford missed a couple of chances to make a good ball but I would rather our FBs have a default nature of making runs rather than one-off movements. I know it will leave us defensively vulnerable but if we can't take that chance against West Ham at home then when would we try it.
Fair enough.. as described by a poster earlier in this thread, Williams is becoming less effective on the left now that the earlier hype is moderate. But it is also a matter of what's being asked to the FBs by the manager, and, just as with other little tweaks, our team is missing this tactical set ups.
I think that's my point - I want them running onto the ball on the overlaps. Not get passed the ball to feet with the opposite full back in position and square him up.
On the topic of Williams, as good and professional he's been in what has been his breakout season, I'm not particularly sure on what he's good at? Offensively he's rarely shown enough. Defensively, he isn't solid in the AWB mold or even 70-80% of that and ends up picking a lot of bookings. So I'm sure he'll improve, but I'm not sure on what area I would specifically want him to improve upon. Right now, I would say everything.
This isn’t always true. Greenwood he goes really far in to be an inside forward which in theory should allow Bissaka time and space to get on a through ball to deliver first time crosses or just go at the box. However when this does happen he doesn’t want to do it and checks back or stops play.
