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What's up with the increased rate of panicky threads lately. Is the looming league start waking up fans that haven't been thinking about football for a while?

Pogba isn't leaving on a free this window. And even if he does, so what, why do we need a thread for it. There's lots of other Pogba threads where this scenario is already discussed.
 

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Just to be a bit nitpicky about the wording

We haven't let him go at all. We offered a new contract last time and this time.
 

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Ahh just like that my day is ruined. Will have to stay off Twitter for a month when this happens.
 

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1. sign him at youth age
2. let him go for free
3. sign him for a world record fee
4. let him go for free again

hilarious if it really comes to this.

But then again , it doesn't really matter if it's the same player twice or someone else.
There is still a long season to play and if he can contribute to a successful season it was worth it.
 

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Yes. Because when it comes to selling and selling at the right time we are utterly awful at it.
 

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I know people are trying to act like they don't care, but if we have another season with no trophies and Pogba ends up leaving on a free, the meltdown will break the Caf. So don't act like all of you are so hard, show some emotion.
 

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Is he wants to run his contract down, what are we supposed to do? Tie him to a chair and force him to sign a deal? Force PSG to pay £70m just as they’re about to sign Messi on a billion euros a week?
 

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Ahh just like that my day is ruined. Will have to stay off Twitter for a month when this happens.
Struggling to think how I’ll get out of bed in the morning if this happens
 

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Is he wants to run his contract down, what are we supposed to do? Tie him to a chair and force him to sign a deal? Force PSG to pay £70m just as they’re about to sign Messi on a billion euros a week?
Make United more appealing than PSG?
 

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Doesn't really matter, we would sell him now if we were able to get an acceptable offer. We won't because he wants to go to PSG and they will not want to pay a fee.

Buying him back seemed like the right choice at the time too. It didn't work out, that's all.
 

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The amount truly bothered by this is staggering. I suppose it's the sort of people who live online and twitter banter is an actual concern and of big importance to their general happiness?
 
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1. sign him at youth age
2. let him go for free
3. sign him for a world record fee
4. let him go for free again

hilarious if it really comes to this.

But then again , it doesn't really matter if it's the same player twice or someone else.
There is still a long season to play and if he can contribute to a successful season it was worth it.
See is as we paid 14m a season to have him. We’ve qualified for the CL in 4 of the 5 seasons we’ve had him so let the finance nerds think that calculation through.

Who gives a shit really as you say, our squad is stronger with him.
 

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Am I the only one who doesn't think it is a big deal? If he is not signing and no one wants to buy him for a decent amount, we don't have a choice. The other option is to put him on sale for 30-40M and probably be ready to sell to a PL rival, then he will be gone.

Is it just twitter banter that people are worried about?
 

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I’m not entirely sure what the club is meant to do at this point?

We’d sell him on if a club were to bid something remotely acceptable. That isn’t going to happen in the current market so it’s clear that he’ll ride out another season and take his pick next summer. Frustrating but it is what it is.

In the meantime we have a very good player in the squad and he clearly has a lot of time for Ole in as much as he’ll knuckle down and get on with the job.
 

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To be honest, if this happens, who can we blame but ourselves?

Pogba said, two summers ago, that he wanted a new challenge.

This is not your missus suddenly dropping a bombshell on you. This is: 'look we agreed to give it some time, I'm still not feeling it so let's call it a day.' Honestly, will anyone be shocked if he sees out his contract and leaves?

This is not some cloak and dagger move. Pogba has been pretty up front about his feelings. Raiola has been even more up front about it. If we wanted money for him we could have looked to cash in.
 

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To be honest, if this happens, who can we blame but ourselves?

Pogba said, two summers ago, that he wanted a new challenge.

This is not your missus suddenly dropping a bombshell on you. This is: 'look we agreed to give it some time, I'm still not feeling it so let's call it a day.' Honestly, will anyone be shocked if he sees out his contract and leaves?

This is not some cloak and dagger move. Pogba has been pretty up front about his feelings. Raiola has been even more up front about it. If we wanted money for him we could have looked to cash in.
I don't think that many people are worried about it being a cloak and dagger move.

Personally, I feel like the fanbase is letting off the club very lightly on this one. This sort of situation is ineptitude personified. The board needs to give clear answers why they have allowed Pogba's contract to become a problem, leading us to losing a lot of money in the process.
 

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It was god send the first time we let him go.

It's gonna be the next coming of Jesus when we let him go for the second time.

We did win our last title just a year after he was gone.

Coincidence? I don't think so.
 

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Both Flamini and Campbell joined Arsenal for free, left for free and rejoined again later for free only to leave for free again.

First time round they paid compensation for Flamini, but it hardly counts as a transfer fee.
 

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I don't think that many people are worried about it being a cloak and dagger move.

Personally, I feel like the fanbase is letting off the club very lightly on this one. This sort of situation is ineptitude personified. The board needs to give clear answers why they have allowed Pogba's contract to become a problem, leading us to losing a lot of money in the process.
Well, given we had a thread on the CAF today praising the senior management for not being Bartomeu, are you surprised?
 

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If we wanted money for him we could have looked to cash in.
Yeah - but apparently nobody's been willing to pay up.

If Real Madrid had offered serious money for him after the "new challenge" play - we would have sold him. I don't see any reason to doubt that, really.

The reason why that thing sort of fizzled out was that nobody actually wanted him badly enough (money wise).

You don't offer up a player at bargain rates just to avoid the shame of losing him on a free - certainly not when the player isn't actually causing any problems within the squad (which Pogba hasn't been doing - he's on good terms with the manager by all accounts).
 
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Well, given we had a thread on the CAF today praising the senior management for not being Bartomeu, are you surprised?
Well it’s a tough one, even when he first said he wanted a new challenge, who was prepared to pay a decent price for him? The media reported no serious bids to my memory?
 

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Yeah - but apparently nobody's been willing to pay up.

If Real Madrid had offered serious money for him after the "new challenge" play - we would have sold him. I don't see any reason to doubt that, really.

The reason why that thing sort of fizzled out was that nobody actually wanted him badly enough (money wise).

You don't offer up a player at bargain rates just to avoid the shame of losing him on a free - certainly not when the player isn't actually causing any problems within the squad (which Pogba hasn't been doing - he's on good terms with the manager by all accounts).
No. They have been willing to pay, they just haven't been willing to pay what we want. Same with Andreas Pereira, same with Diogo Dalot etc.

That's a judgement call for the Board. However, as I said, Pogba and Raiola have never hidden their feelings.

If you know you have a player who, under pretty much no circumstances, will renew then you have to make a decision: Let him wind down his contract or get what you can get.

We have chosen to risk letting him wind down his contract. The only way he will consider staying is if we make him richer than Scrooge McDuck. The Board has to decide if they feel he's worth it.
 
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No. They have been willing to pay, they just haven't been willing to pay what we want. Same with Andreas Pereira, same with Diogo Dalot etc.

That's a judgement call for the Board. However, as I said, Pogba and Raiola have never hidden their feelings.

If you know you have a player who, under pretty much no circumstances, will not renew. Then you have to make a decision: Let him wind down his contract or get what you can get.

We have chosen to let him risk winding down his contract. The only way he will consider staying is if we make him richer than Scrooge McDuck. The Board has to decide if they feel he's worth it.
“Get what you can” may have been as little as 50m euros. Considering we’ve qualified for the CL the past two years with Pogba, I’m not sure that would’ve been a smart move financially.
Now we’ll have him trying to win a league with us in the 3rd season since then.
Just 3 x CL group qualification and some wins in the group is worth 22 ish million euros.
 

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See is as we paid 14m a season to have him. We’ve qualified for the CL in 4 of the 5 seasons we’ve had him so let the finance nerds think that calculation through.

Who gives a shit really as you say, our squad is stronger with him.
People still have hard time to accept or understand the transfer fee is paid to buy his registration from Juventus. It cost 14m a season to get him from Juventus so he could play for Man Utd before his contract expired with Juventus back then. Nothing more. The issue is Man Utd failed to convince him to sign a new contract. Pogba's only obligation is to fulfill the contract he signed. Nothing more.

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Mbappe will be free next summer too. Every club can try to sign him. Same is for Lukaku or Kane, they will have little "resale" value by the time their new contract finish.
 

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Well it’s a tough one, even when he first said he wanted a new challenge, who was prepared to pay a decent price for him? The media reported no serious bids to my memory?
Again 'serious bids' are subjective. However, the judgement the club has made is that it would rather lose Pogba for nothing than on the cheap.

Ultimately the Board has to justify that decision if it happens. However, they can't say that they weren't warned about the possibility by Pogba, his brother, his agent etc.

In fact, I reckon one of the reasons there have not been any 'serious bids' is because Paul's camp has been so clear that he wants to leave. Most potential buyers have wagered that United would take something rather than nothing.
 

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We tried to keep him both times, but he didn't want to stay. Not a whole lot you can do - he'll start negotiating his free transfer in 4 months' time.
 

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He will sign a contract. He is out of options for top clubs unless Juve gets him on a free.
 
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