WWE Premier League Championship

Skills · Nov 17, 2021

The correct way to decide who's champion at the end of the season.

Without cheating, who's currently holding the title?

City started the season as Champions, and lost the title during their first game of the season.

Moyes' boys at West Ham United won it by defeating Liverpool. Who won it off Palace, who got it by defeating Spurs who won it from City

OnlyTwoDaSilvas · Nov 17, 2021

I'd love to see someone nerdy enough to go all the way back to the beginning of English football and trace the path of the Championship, like UFWC did, though I suspect it's much easier to do for international football.

Maybe from the start of the Premier League era instead. Leeds start as the reigning champions and take it from there.

DOTA · Nov 17, 2021

OnlyTwoDaSilvas said:
I'd love to see someone nerdy enough to go all the way back to the beginning of English football and trace the path of the Championship, like UFWC did, though I suspect it's much easier to do for international football.

Maybe from the start of the Premier League era instead. Leeds start as the reigning champions and take it from there.

If you go all the way back, it's not that unlikely that at some point the reigning champions were dissolved.

Even with the second one it's possible given that at some point a team may well have taken it down with them upon relegation.

OnlyTwoDaSilvas · Nov 17, 2021

DOTA said:
If you go all the way back, it's not that unlikely that at some point the reigning champions were dissolved.

Even with the second one it's possible given that at some point a team may well have taken it down with them upon relegation.

Good point.

Or if it did manage to avoid a folded team, the title belt could be bouncing around in the lower leagues right now, and we just don't know it. Especially if you were to factor in FA Cup and League Cup games.

Skills · Nov 17, 2021

OnlyTwoDaSilvas said:
Good point.

Or if it did manage to avoid a folded team, the title belt could be bouncing around in the lower leagues right now, and we just don't know it. Especially if you were to factor in FA Cup and League Cup games.

I might be sad enough to try and trace it back to start of the PL.

We might find out that Accrington Stanley are the Ric Flair of the football, and are 17x world champions

anant · Nov 17, 2021

OnlyTwoDaSilvas said:
I'd love to see someone nerdy enough to go all the way back to the beginning of English football and trace the path of the Championship, like UFWC did, though I suspect it's much easier to do for international football.

Maybe from the start of the Premier League era instead. Leeds start as the reigning champions and take it from there.

If we are taking just PL games into account, WHU are still the champions.

Team	Championships won
Manchester United	23
Liverpool	21
Chelsea	21
Arsenal	17
Tottenham Hotspur	15
Manchester City	13
Southampton	12
Aston Villa	10
West Ham United	10
Newcastle United	10
Everton	10
Middlesbrough	7
Blackburn Rovers	6
Sunderland AFC	5
Leicester City	5
West Bromwich Albion	5
Queens Park Rangers	4
Bolton Wanderers	4
Fulham	4
Swansea City	4
Leeds United	3
Portsmouth	3
Sheffield United	2
Wimbledon	2
Derby County	2
AFC Bournemouth	2
Burnley	2
Brighton & Hove Albion	2
Crystal Palace	2
Watford	2
Norwich City	1
Nottingham Forest	1
Barnsley	1
Sheffield Wednesday	1
Coventry City	1
Bradford City AFC	1
Birmingham City	1
Charlton Athletic	1
Wolverhampton Wanderers	1
Cardiff City	1

Season	Exchange of title
1992-93	13
1993-94	6
1994-95	14
1995-96	3
1996-97	7
1997-98	16
1998-99	8
1999-00	9
2000-01	7
2001-02	5
2002-03	9
2003-04	3
2004-05	9
2005-06	6
2006-07	8
2007-08	4
2008-09	6
2009-10	9
2010-11	6
2011-12	9
2012-13	5
2013-14	11
2014-15	11
2015-16	9
2016-17	9
2017-18	11
2018-19	7
2019-20	2
2020-21	10
2021-22	6

OnlyTwoDaSilvas · Nov 17, 2021

anant said:
If we are taking just PL games into account, WHU are still the champions.

Team Championships won
Manchester United
23
Liverpool
21
Chelsea
21
Arsenal
17
Tottenham Hotspur
15
Manchester City
13
Southampton
12
Aston Villa
10
West Ham United
10
Newcastle United
10
Everton
10
Middlesbrough
7
Blackburn Rovers
6
Sunderland AFC
5
Leicester City
5
West Bromwich Albion
5
Queens Park Rangers
4
Bolton Wanderers
4
Fulham
4
Swansea City
4
Leeds United
3
Portsmouth
3
Sheffield United
2
Wimbledon
2
Derby County
2
AFC Bournemouth
2
Burnley
2
Brighton & Hove Albion
2
Crystal Palace
2
Watford
2
Norwich City
1
Nottingham Forest
1
Barnsley
1
Sheffield Wednesday
1
Coventry City
1
Bradford City AFC
1
Birmingham City
1
Charlton Athletic
1
Wolverhampton Wanderers
1
Cardiff City
1

Season Exchange of title
1992-93
13
1993-94
6
1994-95
14
1995-96
3
1996-97
7
1997-98
16
1998-99
8
1999-00
9
2000-01
7
2001-02
5
2002-03
9
2003-04
3
2004-05
9
2005-06
6
2006-07
8
2007-08
4
2008-09
6
2009-10
9
2010-11
6
2011-12
9
2012-13
5
2013-14
11
2014-15
11
2015-16
9
2016-17
9
2017-18
11
2018-19
7
2019-20
2
2020-21
10
2021-22
6

Superstar! How on earth did you pull all that data together so quickly?

I take it the title didn't ever drop out of the Premier League, such as a relegated team beating a title holder on the final day or something.

anant · Nov 17, 2021

OnlyTwoDaSilvas said:
Superstar! How on earth did you pull all that data together so quickly?

I take it the title didn't ever drop out of the Premier League, such as a relegated team beating a title holder on the final day or something.

Got lucky that the title stayed in PL throughout, else it would have been a pain. And you just needed to append all the results sorted on date and apply a couple of basic formulas.

As far as finding the current champions was concerned, I think that could have been done in an easier manner. One could have started with Pool in 19/20 season and then worked on that as they beat everyone before losing to Watford - the only issue could have been if the title is in PL or not

Sounds of the Aquarium · Nov 17, 2021

doesn't look right to me.

iv done the first season and have 16 exchanges....

Holder	Defeated by	Date	Score	w/d Streak	Title #
Leeds	Middlesbrough	22/08/1992	4-1	2	1
Middlesbrough	Southampton	29/08/1992	2-1	1	1
Southampton	Norwich	05/09/1992	1-0	2	1
Norwich	Blackburn	03/10/1992	7-1	4	1
Blackburn	Tottenham	07/11/1992	2-0	4	1
Tottenham	Chelsea	05/12/1992	2-1	3	1
Chelsea	Manchester City	09/01/1993	4-2	5	1
Manchester City	Arsenal	16/01/1993	1-0	1	1
Arsenal	Liverpool	31/01/1993	1-0	1	1
Liverpool	Southampton	13/02/1993	2-1	3	1
Southampton	United	20/02/1993	2-1	1	2
United	Oldham	09/03/1993	1-0	3	1
Oldham	Norwich	13/03/1993	1-0	1	1
Norwich	Wimbledon	20/03/1993	3-0	2	2
Wimbledon	Oldham	03/04/1993	6-2	2	1
Oldham	Liverpool	10/04/1993	1-0	2	2
Liverpool	Norwich	01/05/1993	1-0	4	2

anant · Nov 17, 2021

Sounds of the Aquarium said:
doesn't look right to me.

iv done the first season and have 16 exchanges....

Holder Defeated by Date Score w/d Streak Title #
Leeds Middlesbrough
22/08/1992
4-1
2
1
Middlesbrough Southampton
29/08/1992
2-1
1
1
Southampton Norwich
05/09/1992
1-0
2
1
Norwich Blackburn
03/10/1992
7-1
4
1
Blackburn Tottenham
07/11/1992
2-0
4
1
Tottenham Chelsea
05/12/1992
2-1
3
1
Chelsea Manchester City
09/01/1993
4-2
5
1
Manchester City Arsenal
16/01/1993
1-0
1
1
Arsenal Liverpool
31/01/1993
1-0
1
1
Liverpool Southampton
13/02/1993
2-1
3
1
Southampton United
20/02/1993
2-1
1
2
United Oldham
09/03/1993
1-0
3
1
Oldham Norwich
13/03/1993
1-0
1
1
Norwich Wimbledon
20/03/1993
3-0
2
2
Wimbledon Oldham
03/04/1993
6-2
2
1
Oldham Liverpool
10/04/1993
1-0
2
2
Liverpool Norwich
01/05/1993
1-0
4
2

In the dataset I'm using, I'm seeing Southampton and Norwich finished 1-1, and that's where the disconnect is coming from I believe

https://footballcsv.github.io/

Edit: Just checked, and found out the issue. It was excel converting those scorelines to dates, and all.

Edit2: The title did go to championship a couple of times, once in 1999-00 with SHU going down and once with Newcastle's relegation in 15-16. However, Norwich came up as champions a couple of seasons go and the title has remained here ever since.

The title count and exchange count however will be different

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