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Debate rages on use of cervical cancer vaccine
While almost 100% effective, some contend use condones teen sex

Rob Stein, Washington Post

Monday, October 31, 2005



Washington -- A new vaccine that protects against cervical cancer has set up a clash between health advocates who want to use the shots aggressively to prevent thousands of malignancies and social conservatives who say immunizing teen-agers could encourage sexual activity.

Although the vaccine will not become available until next year at the earliest, activists on both sides have begun maneuvering to influence how widely the immunizations will be employed.

Groups working to reduce the toll of the cancer are eagerly awaiting the vaccine and want it to become part of the standard roster of shots that children, especially girls, receive just before puberty.

Because the vaccine protects against a sexually transmitted virus, many conservatives oppose making it mandatory, citing fears that it could send a subtle message condoning sexual activity before marriage. Several leading groups that promote abstinence are meeting this week to formulate official policies on the vaccine.

Officials from the companies developing the shots -- Merck & Co. and GlaxoSmithKline -- have been meeting with advocacy groups to try to assuage their concerns.

The jockeying reflects the growing influence social conservatives, who had long felt overlooked by Washington, have gained on a broad spectrum of policy issues under the Bush administration. In this case, a former member of the conservative group Focus on the Family serves on the federal panel that is playing a pivotal role in deciding how the vaccine is used.

"What the Bush administration has done has taken this coterie of people and put them into very influential positions in Washington," said James Morone Jr., a professor of political science at Brown University. "And it's having an effect in debates like this."

The vaccine protects women against strains of a ubiquitous germ called the human papilloma virus. Although many strains of the virus are innocuous, some can cause cancerous lesions on the cervix (the outer end of the uterus), making them the primary cause of this cancer in the United States. Cervical cancer strikes more than 10,000 U.S. women each year, killing more than 3,700.

The vaccine appears to be virtually 100 percent effective against two of the most common cancer-causing HPV strains. Merck, whose vaccine is further along, plans to ask the Food and Drug Administration by the end of the year for approval to sell the shots.

Exactly how the vaccine is used will be largely determined by the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP), a panel of experts assembled by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in Atlanta. The panel issues widely followed guidelines, including recommendations for childhood vaccines that become the basis for vaccination requirements set by public schools.

Officials of both companies noted that research indicates the best age to vaccinate would be just before puberty to make sure children are protected before they become sexually active. The vaccine would probably be targeted primarily at girls but could also be used on boys to limit the spread of the virus.

"I would like to see it that if you don't have your HPV vaccine, you can't start high school," said Juan Carlos Felix of the University of Southern California, who leads the National Cervical Cancer Coalition's medical advisory panel.

At the ACIP meeting last week, panel members heard presentations about the pros and cons of vaccinating girls at various ages. A survey of 294 pediatricians presented at the meeting found that more than half were worried that parents of female patients might refuse the vaccine, and 11 percent of the doctors said they thought vaccinating against a sexually transmitted disease "may encourage risky sexual behavior in my adolescent patients."

Conservative groups say they welcome the vaccine as an important public health tool but oppose making it mandatory.

"Some people have raised the issue of whether this vaccine may be sending an overall message to teen-agers that, 'We expect you to be sexually active,' " said Reginald Finger, a doctor trained in public health who served as a medical analyst for Focus on the Family before being appointed to the ACIP in 2003.

"There are people who sense that it could cause people to feel like sexual behaviors are safer if they are vaccinated and may lead to more sexual behavior because they feel safe," said Finger, emphasizing he does not endorse that position and is withholding judgment until the issue comes before the vaccine policy panel for a formal recommendation.

Conservative medical groups have been fielding calls from concerned parents and organizations, officials said.

"I've talked to some who have said, 'This is going to sabotage our abstinence message,' " said Gene Rudd, associate executive director of the Christian Medical and Dental Associations. But Rudd said most people change their minds once they learn more, adding he would probably want his children immunized. Rudd, however, draws the line at making the vaccine mandatory.

"Parents should have the choice. There are those who would say, 'We can provide a better, healthier alternative than the vaccine, and that is to teach abstinence,' " Rudd said.

The council plans to meet Wednesday to discuss the issue. On the same day, the Medical Institute for Sexual Health in Austin, Texas, which advises conservative groups on sexuality and health issues, is convening a one-day meeting to develop a position statement.

Alan Kaye, executive director of the National Cervical Cancer Coalition, likened the vaccine to wearing a seat belt.

"Just because you wear a seat belt doesn't mean you're seeking out an accident," Kaye said.

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IIRC Focus on the Family are an anti-abortion group that is one of the rallying points for Bush's electoral base. Yanks please confirm?

Non-compulsory vaccination is a bit stupid. In the case of the MMR in Britain you could argue that there was a health risk, but in this case insistence on non compulsory vaccination is equivalent to what the Nigerian Muslim clerics did when they refused to let their flock take the polio vaccine. The only way to eliminate polio is to vaccinate everyone. Same here with cervical cancer.
 

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It's the same position, in different environments.

The difference is that there are more Americans than Nigerians with the education to see that the position is bollocks.
 

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Well, its worse in the sense that even being more educated and civilized that Nigerians, some yanks are advocating an equally daft thing, but atleast in yankland there are other sane people to stop such daftness.
 

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spinoza said:
It's the same position, in different environments.

The difference is that there are more Americans than Nigerians with the education to see that the position is bollocks.
If polio were a sexually transmitted disease, you might have a point. If Focus on Family thought that the West (or anybody else) was poisoning the cervical cancer drug as part of some plot, you would have a point.

As it is, the reasoning behind the oppositions is completely different and the two instances are not even remotely similar, except that each is an example of religious leaders undermining the physical well being of their followers.
 

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crappycraperson said:
Well, its worse in the sense that even being more educated and civilized that Nigerians, some yanks are advocating an equally daft thing.

Yanks more educated than Nigerians?.....I have my doubts about that.
 

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kennyj said:
If polio were a sexually transmitted disease, you might have a point. If Focus on Family thought that the West (or anybody else) was poisoning the cervical cancer drug as part of some plot, you would have a point.

As it is, the reasoning behind the oppositions is completely different and the two instances are not even remotely similar, except that each is an example of religious leaders undermining the physical well being of their followers.
The diseases are different, which leads to some minor differences in the reasoning that leads up to the respective positions, that's true. But the common thread is this - there is a particular vaccine that interferes with a religious (or quasi-religious) point of view. The result is that they want to prevent it from being universally administered, which, any health professional will tell you, is crucial to the disease being eradicated.

There are more similarities than you care to admit - the primary one being that as usual, religious types put people's lives fairly low down the priority list.
 

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spinoza said:
The diseases are different, which leads to some minor differences in the reasoning that leads up to the respective positions, that's true. But the common thread is this - there is a particular vaccine that interferes with a religious (or quasi-religious) point of view. The result is that they want to prevent it from being universally administered, which, any health professional will tell you, is crucial to the disease being eradicated.

There are more similarities than you care to admit - the primary one being that as usual, religious types put people's lives fairly low down the priority list.
I have no problem admitting anything. I'm far from being in either sect, and I think both vaccines are a good idea.

But I understand that the Christian group is not opposed to the vaccine, but the fact that it's mandatory, and the author says that most would get the vaccine anyway. Others may not get it because their daughters are not sexually active or committed to one partner. In their eyes, if the disease is sexually transmitted, and they are not in a risk group, why would they be vaccinated?

It's my understanding that the Nigerian religious leaders don't want the polio vaccine because they think it's a plot by the West to poison them and keep them from having children. Outside of the fact that the leaders are religious people, it is not a doctrinal religious reason - just a suspicion about the West. But the polio vaccine is even more important. Polio threatens everyone, not just a specific risk group, because it's spread through the water supply.

It's really a stretch to compare the two because the issues are so different.