Giggs & Jones in midfield

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And apparently we didnt need a midfielder...

Haha.
 

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I doubt this changes much. We desperately need a CM but are unlikely to get one.
 

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The sad part is they were two of our better performers.

We do need a CM but it was Park and Young (of the midfield and attack anyway) that were our weak points tonight.
 

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"But, but, we don't need a midfielder. Who can we get that would be an improvement on what we have, and is available? Plus there's Anderson and Gibbo... ok not him, and Jones can play there too, and Carrick, and fletcher, and Giggs!"
 

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We don't need a midfielder...we need several. What we have are useless. They've fallen apart and don't appear to be improving. We really need to buy in January. Maybe some competition for spots will be the kick in the arse they need.
 

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The sad part is they were two of our better performers.

We do need a CM but it was Park and Young (of the midfield and attack anyway) that were our weak points tonight.
They aren't central midfielders though and it shows every time.
 

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Well, it's beyond obvious we need central midfielder (s).

But we were seriously let down by Park, Young and Rooney tonight. It's hard to know where to start. We've been playing piss poor football for awhile now barring the odd game like the one against Newcastle where our finishing was piss poor. So while we need a midfielder, we also need to sort out the way some of our important players are playing. How poor has Rooney been off late?
 

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Yep... I am one of those muppets who thought we DESPERATELY needed a CM when Scholes retired.

Erm...

Wait a sec...
 

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Carrick suspended, clev and ando injured and fletcher on the bench. There's four midfielders for you. Today wasn't about the midfielders, they gave the attackers the ball in great areas but the final ball and composure in the box was poor as it has been for ages now. Giggs was prob our best player with nani.
 

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Our first, second and third choice CM were all shit tonight...
 

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It was always going to happen.

Last years away form should have been an obvious signal to the staff that our CM isn't good enough. The fact we didn't start today with any recognised CM was always going to end in a disaster. Simply not enough protection for our defense. I said it in the matchday thread before the game even started!

Can't feck around in fixtures like this, but we did and it cost us. Tonight was predictable m'afraid.
 

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Carrick suspended, clev and ando injured and fletcher on the bench. There's four midfielders for you. Today wasn't about the midfielders, they gave the attackers the ball in great areas but the final ball and composure in the box was poor as it has been for ages now. Giggs was prob our best player with nani.
This group was easy.We should have qualified long ago. We lack of quality and improving CM is the first step.
 

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Does it say something that the highest scoring central midfielder this season has been Phil Jones?
 

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"But, but, we don't need a midfielder. Who can we get that would be an improvement on what we have, and is available? Plus there's Anderson and Gibbo... ok not him, and Jones can play there too, and Carrick, and fletcher, and Giggs!"
This.

Fergie's lost it really regarding this.
 

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We fecked things up at Old Trafford lads. It can't be ignored. That was a game we should have sorted out. I thought United looked better tonight than they did at home. The first half was lively, and their second goal was as a result of diabolical defending on Smalling's part. Aside from that we contained things reasonably well. We had our chances.
 

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They aren't central midfielders though and it shows every time.
Giggs has shown he can play well in central midfield in the past. Jones did a pretty good job today.

As I said, its clear we need a central midfielder. But thats not going to stop Park playing like shit. And Young has been poor since returning from his injury, which is a bit more understandable but still leaves us relying on Nani producing magic on the other wing
 

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The sad part is they were two of our better performers.
True, Giggs played some killer balls first half.

it was Park and Young (of the midfield and attack anyway) that were our weak points tonight.

Danny Mills on BBC 5 live: "I have been disappointed with Man United's effort. Ji-Sung Park worked tirelessly but apart from that United haven't really got the bit between their teeth."


Is there no end to the stream of bullshit from this twat's mouth?
 

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Giggs has shown he can play well in central midfield in the past. Jones did a pretty good job today.

As I said, its clear we need a central midfielder. But thats not going to stop Park playing like shit. And Young has been poor since returning from his injury, which is a bit more understandable but still leaves us relying on Nani producing magic on the other wing
I'm not a fan of Jones in CM. Giggs I agree with, but he's not a natural CM neither. But as I've said neither of them are to blame for today's result. Rooney can't score, Young and Park have been immensively shit.
 

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Giggs has shown he can play well in central midfield in the past. Jones did a pretty good job today.

As I said, its clear we need a central midfielder. But thats not going to stop Park playing like shit. And Young has been poor since returning from his injury, which is a bit more understandable but still leaves us relying on Nani producing magic on the other wing
I have to say, I felt things looked a little obvious / predictable going forward. I really like it when United interchange between going via the wings and going through the middle. It would be nice if we could do both, and we've seen down through the years that we've had squads that could manage this. Such is the nature of football, you can't have it all the time.

Who knows what might happen during the Winter window
 

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Sneijder-Ihni binni dimi diniwiny anitaime will be loving this, but anyone with a brain knows our priority should always have been cover for Carrick.
 

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Well, it's beyond obvious we need central midfielder (s).

But we were seriously let down by Park, Young and Rooney tonight. It's hard to know where to start. We've been playing piss poor football for awhile now barring the odd game like the one against Newcastle where our finishing was piss poor. So while we need a midfielder, we also need to sort out the way some of our important players are playing. How poor has Rooney been off late?
This!

And when we are on it. Smalling and Evans didn't cover themselves is glory.
 

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This group was easy.We should have qualified long ago. We lack of quality and improving CM is the first step.
So despite the fact that the bulk of this team and certainly the midfielder left in the squad, were able to get to the champions league final last season, they're now not good enough. I don't disagree that we could use a midfielder but the midfield is being made a scapegoat for the team now. The mistakes in the earlier games came mainly from defensive frailties due to injuries and inexperience. Today both goals could also be attributed to that as De Gea should have done better for the first and Smalling and Evans for the second. But up top was the biggest problem. We had possession, we had the ball in dangerous areas but bar nani, everyone else used the ball poorly or didn't show enough composure in the box. It's the same problem we've been having for a while now, the final ball isn't good enough and the strikers aren't playing well enough.
 

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I think I'd be mildly curious to see Jones and Gibson in midfield, maybe not much flair or style probably score by hook or by crook and end up being lambasted despite that.
 

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Probably on their way to telling us things are fine now as well.
I think some posters miss the point on here. It's obviously not fine that we're out of the Champions League. It's a huge disappointment. We're lacking strength in depth. I think the posters who come on and say it's fine are almost doing it to try and weigh up the imbalance caused by some spastic posters who knee jerk beyond belief. I've seen in season in, season out on here and for the most part, the posters who look like the biggest morons come the end of the season are the knee jerk merchants
 

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Some people were arguing against me when I said Giggs was a wasteful central midfielder in the match day thread, saying he was better than Carrick in midfield.. lol
He WAS better than Carrick in midfield, no doubt about that.
 

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So despite the fact that the bulk of this team and certainly the midfielder left in the squad, were able to get to the champions league final last season, they're now not good enough. I don't disagree that we could use a midfielder but the midfield is being made a scapegoat for the team now. The mistakes in the earlier games came mainly from defensive frailties due to injuries and inexperience. Today both goals could also be attributed to that as De Gea should have done better for the first and Smalling and Evans for the second. But up top was the biggest problem. We had possession, we had the ball in dangerous areas but bar nani, everyone else used the ball poorly or didn't show enough composure in the box. It's the same problem we've been having for a while now, the final ball isn't good enough and the strikers aren't playing well enough.
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