Lets say for arguments sake that we could get Torres in the summer for £15-20m. Would this be viewed as a risk worth taking?
Torres Hypothetical
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No. With his wages I wouldn't even want him for free unless we could sell him in the next window for good money.
For under 20 I'd take a punt on him. The old Torres was the perfect foil for Rooney and I think a change of club and playing for a team that actually suits his style, which we do, would do him the world of good.
No. His wages would be too great, he would not accept being 4th choice striker and we have other positions which are far more important to resolve than signing a striker who has scored fewer goals than Tim Howard this calendar year.
Not a chance, would prefer to keep developing Welbeck and Hernandez. Both of them at their prime would be excellent partners for Rooney.
No way. That horse needs shooting.
Tbh if rvp is stalling over a contract I hope we're lookin at him though if he leaves he'll probably go abroad. Old Torres would have been my pick out of the two but obviously not now.
it really is a mysterious case with this girl torres however I wouldnt buy her.
It would be like Chelsea buying Veron off us for 15 million in 2003.
A bad decision.
A bad decision.
I think that Torres has only had a couple of years at Liverpool when he looked world class. Wouldn't really be worth the risk in my opinion especially as he would probably want 150k a week. It could be much better spent elsewhere
I can't believe he wouldn't score goals in our side what with the creativity of Valencia, Nani, Rooney & Giggs
In answer to the OP my answer would be a resounding yes
In answer to the OP my answer would be a resounding yes
He can't do it in a side with Lampard, Mata and Drogba.
Not to say he wouldn't do it with us but you would have to look at 20 million plus and probably over 150k in wages. On current form over the past few seasons he has shown nothing to prove himself to be better than Welbeck, Rooney, Hernandez or even Berba.
Plus we know that Welbeck and Rooney work well together, why disrupt that. I'm sure Torres would want first team assurances. The money could be better uses elsewhere
He'd be worth a gamble. I can't figure out how he managed to go from being one of the game's top strikers to being an absolute duffer at Chelsea. Maybe he needs Rafa to tickle his nuts for him or something before each game but he really is a pale shadow of what he was. But if anyone can turn things round for him, it'd be Fergie.
He's the perfect player for Redknapp, just like all his previously class players who need a chance.
Torred for England!
Torred for England!
Torres couldn't hit a cow's arse with a heat seeking banjo. Wellbeck is already twice the player he is.
would he be prepared to be 4th choice?
he would be a very good replacement if berbatov and owen leave
His problems seem mental rather than physical - I think he can be a very good player again
the pressure of the price tag, the mess that is chelsea, and a real crisis of confidence have had their impact
I think Torres definately ust needs a transfer and we'll see a different player
15-20 million is too much for a 4th choice striker
he would be a very good replacement if berbatov and owen leave
His problems seem mental rather than physical - I think he can be a very good player again
the pressure of the price tag, the mess that is chelsea, and a real crisis of confidence have had their impact
I think Torres definately ust needs a transfer and we'll see a different player
15-20 million is too much for a 4th choice striker
No definately not for £20m, it's still alot of money and would probably take up around 66% of our transfer budget, as I cant see us spending any more than £30m considering we lost the champions league revenue. I'd much rather the money went on improving centre mid, or else was spend recruiting a few younger players with potential. He's 28 next month, so isn't going to provide a long term improvement to the squad, and seeing as much of his game was based on pace even if he can recapture his previous form, he'll regress as a player when he hits his 30's.
We don't need him anyway, Rooney, Hernandez, Welbeck and Berba if he stays are a perfect set of strikers, the best in the league, so Torres wouldnt add anything. It'd be better to allow Welbeck and Hernandez as much playing time as possible, so they continue their current rate of development.
We don't need him anyway, Rooney, Hernandez, Welbeck and Berba if he stays are a perfect set of strikers, the best in the league, so Torres wouldnt add anything. It'd be better to allow Welbeck and Hernandez as much playing time as possible, so they continue their current rate of development.
Sizeable fee. Huge Wages. Striker. Doesnt score. Other Areas need strengthening.
Enough reasons to not touch him with a 50ft pole tbh.
Enough reasons to not touch him with a 50ft pole tbh.
Bit expensive for a player to improve the reserves
I would have him in our team, without a shadow of a doubt. I think he would be great playing infront of Rooney, and if anyone is able to get the best out of him then it has to be Fergie.
Mata aside the other two aren't even close to the level of our players
I dont think you can really blame the service when he's just finishing poorly.
For under 100k a week wages I'd take a punt. Him and Rooney up front looks excellent on paper.
I think it's the style rather than the level that is different. I also think Drogba/Torres combo was never ever going to work. Torres/Lampard might have worked a couple of years ago, especially as we saw Torres' best form in front of Gerrard - a similar player to Lampard albeit technically superior.
Lampard/Torres in this attempted modernized Chelsea team won't work though, even if you chuck in Mata to help, the team is not changed enough to play like AVB wants it to which can suit Torres and Mata, but it is changed too much for the likes of Lampard & Drogba period, or a Lampard/Torres combo, in my opinion.
You can when he's only getting 1 or 2 chances a game, the guys confidence is shot to pieces he needs a couple of games where's he's on the end of 4 or 5 chances
I'd say yes. I have no idea what has happened to him recently but under Ferguson and with the service he'd get from the wide players/Rooney etc he'd surely get a shit load more goal scoring chances
He's had plenty of those games in his Chelsea career.
Tell you what, with the crosses our wingers provide.....
He's done. He's more done than Shevchenko was and you wouldn't waste 15 million on him when he was leaving Chelsea, would you?
Crazy how many of you would sign him, what do you all want to do with Hernandez and Welbeck?
Nah..
Ferguson tried to sign Torres numerous times before giving up and saying privately that he felt that Spaniard lacked composure in front of goal.
No, if nothing else you'd have to live with me on here.
However, Diouf, Milan Baros and even Sean Dundee are available as cheap as Michael Owen flavoured chips.
What the feck? No. The guys on six figures a week and can't score a goal. Yes, he'd score goals with the service he'd get here but so would I. He's a carthorse.
i think almost everyone said he'd be a reserve/4th choice
Last summer I probably would since I believe it's more to do with confidence than ability. It's pretty obvious, look at some of his goals with Liverpool, it's clear he had far more confidence in himself and his ability compared to now. Sir Alex is definately one of the managers I'd bet on being able to fill him with confidence again. Anyways, as I said last summer maybe - but with Welbeck emerging and proving himself as a very good striker I wouldn't.
I got a feeling he might turn it a bit around if Chelsea get rid of some of the oldies in their dressing room and stop the cliques though. I'm not saying Drogba and Co are trying to not make him an succes because that would be absurd, but I wouldn't be suprised if he wasn't being welcomed very well since he was more or less brought in to replace Anelka/Drogba in the long run, Anelka especially being very vocal and a shit stirrer, seems like anything could happen in the Chelsea dressing room. A change of scenery, at Chelsea or else where might do him good.
I got a feeling he might turn it a bit around if Chelsea get rid of some of the oldies in their dressing room and stop the cliques though. I'm not saying Drogba and Co are trying to not make him an succes because that would be absurd, but I wouldn't be suprised if he wasn't being welcomed very well since he was more or less brought in to replace Anelka/Drogba in the long run, Anelka especially being very vocal and a shit stirrer, seems like anything could happen in the Chelsea dressing room. A change of scenery, at Chelsea or else where might do him good.
Oh, that makes sense, a £20million, £150,00 per week reserve. Seems responsible spending.
Would you trade Berbatov for Torres? Or Chicharito? I sure wouldn't. I'd rather have Mickey Owen.
Tbh if the situation did ever arise and he could get back to how he was, or show glimpses of it he wouldn't be fourth striker for long. Although Forlan never had the same dramatic drop as Torres had he clearly never hit his best here and the change of scenery changed everything for him. We know Torres can cut it in the league, it's got to be mental. Personally I think he can recover, just not at chelsea. A new club though, and as I said a club which has the players and set-up to suit him and everything could change. Like I said if he was available for less than 20mil, I'd take the chance.
If its £10m, then yes because if Berba and Owen leave then we need another striker.