And it was just as much bollocks then as it is now.
Gaming PS4 vs Xbox One - The suckiest thread in the history of suckyness
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My point exactly.
Errrrrrm. That was exactly my point. I even said so if you would read....
It's him moaning about talking about technical aspects. Don't hurt the bone!
Tbf when I look at graphics I look at the movie CGI industry and think, in 5-10 years time that's what we'll be seeing on our PC/console... of course now that I've seen what these boxes are capable of let's revise that...
Ah fair enough then. Though I don't think he's moaning as much as just bringing up an alternate viewpoint.
Sure, you're right there and that is definitely far more important to me than graphics. The thing is, from my gaming experience so far, I've not had an issue playing fast-paced online multiplayers on my Xbox 360 - so it doesn't seem likely that it'd affect me hugely. However, I don't play shooters on PCs so I haven't experienced high fps rates on this genre in particular, maybe once I get my hands on both next-gen consoles I'll find that the more smooth PS4 really does make the shooting experience better. We'll have to wait and see on that one, but I don't deny it's a relevant factor.
The controller is going to be big for me - I love the 360 controller, and it's one of the big reasons I buy multi-plat games on the 360. The DS4 has been getting great reviews, but I'm still a little skeptic of the analogue placement for shooting games. The XO controller has been getting very positive impressions too, though it's not been used as much as DS4 (as DS4 has been released), the sticks are where I like them to be and the rumble triggers are meant to be brilliant by almost all accounts. I expect both to be good, but I may find that the stick placement on the XO controller + the rumble triggers mean I get my shooters on the XO. I'd place my money on preferring the Xbox One for shooters, but I can't ignore the great DS4 reviews.
Second screen facilities - if remote play works as well as the tech demos show, then this could be a big feature for me. I actually always play in my room anyway, and accessing my console is never really an issue. But still, if it allows me to play in my bed or on the shitter; perhaps I'll get games for the PS4 instead.
Connection - the reliability of Xbox Live has been huge for me, it's probably the most consistent online service I have ever used. Download speeds were much quicker, I found less lag on multiplayer games it was another factor for me. PSN is now charging for the service, and with the acquisition of Gaikai I expect the Playstation Network to improve in these areas and catch up with Xbox Live, especially since it seems Xbox Live will have some issues at launch.
However, if on the Xbox One some games have dedicated servers and lack on the PS4 - I'd say this trumps graphics and fps. A stable connection, with no host advantage and less delay between your actions and the replication on the server is very advantageous.
OS integration? We'll see about this one.. it's not important for most, and it'll probably be a while before it is to me too. The Xbox One version offers me more flexibility in my gaming, and could allow me to game at times when on the PS4 I wouldn't (lets say football is on or I'm awaiting a Skype call) then it's another factor.
I haven't complained once today about discussing the technical aspects of games - atleast I don't think I have.
I've simply tried to counter the notion that they are of most importance when considering which console to buy, or what console provides the best experience for a game. Just because I disagree with you, doesn't mean I don't want to discuss it - that's all I've done.
Alock, not being funny but I'm at work and I know what you are like, does any of that talk about my point or is it another off on a tangent post?
1st paragraph is specifically what you mentioned I should consider (frames per second). The rest is other considerations I'll take into account.
That's exactly what I said you rubbished. So I'm talking sense and you're talking shit, mate.
Anyways, there isnt an obsession with graphics, but given its a visual medium, it's always going to be very important. And the power of the console will sway people. None wants their console to be weaker than the competition. Sorry, but that's the reality.
Thanks mate. Not being disrespectful, it just looks a wall of text on my phone and I'm busy
But regarding your point on shooters, yes even 3-4 fps extra makes a big difference with aiming. But on every genre where direct input is required, smoother and higher framerates make for better feel. It'common sense if you think about it on paper too.
Look at my reply to bebe. I definitely had an order I pick multiplatform games on.
Microsoft changing Xbox Live Terms of Use. As part of update, users must agree to allow Microsoft to share their name, address, email, and date of birth with app partners.
Might not be an issue for many, just passing it on. I looked at the content in the article and it seems like it isn't something you can opt out of. No likey...
Might not be an issue for many, just passing it on. I looked at the content in the article and it seems like it isn't something you can opt out of. No likey...
Just read the last few pages and my brain has half melted.
I can't believe anyone takes cider seriously.
I can't believe anyone takes cider seriously.
That doesn't make it the be all and end all. It's never been as simple as more power to the masses either, has any console/handheld generation ever been defined by power/graphics? No.
The original Xbox was sold almost entirely on it's graphics edge. At least for a long time.
No one said it's the be all and end all. Now you're just making stuff up because you tied yourself in knots with how you initially interpreted things.
It's very important to the gamer in general.
As they say, don't feed the troll
It's a visual medium where they try and make the graphical world seem as real as they possibly can. So yeah, how capable a console is of achieving that is pretty fecking important to gamers.
We don't, but we can't help but argue. God forbid anyone looks in this thread for some actual information that might help them decide what to buy and just takes his word for it.
I actually don't know why he continues to blatently troll it yet is allowed to do it just "because". It's not funny, it's not useful and it just causes pages and pages of mess. It's good to have people argue for both sides else right now it would just be one big PS4 circle jerk, Alock at least keeps the conversation going sensibly. If I just suddenly started to post complete bollocks, cause arguments and generally talk shit in the matchday forum or general I would be banned, but because its cider in the entertainment forum it's allowed?
This could be bad news for me as it sounds like it allows the Xbox Live account info to be correlated against third part app info on which a separate account is needed.
Does this spell the end of free Sky?
Is it? Maybe to the hardcore gamers, not so sure it is to the average gamer. For me, it'll only matter because 1080p/900p for COD/BF against 720p is very tangible and an easy thing for consumers to grasp - if they were at the same resolution, but with the graphical differences the same as we're seeing today - I doubt it'd factor into their decision at all.
And either way, it still doesn't contradict what I have been saying all day - I have asked time and time again how much priority it has for you people, how much it effects your enjoyment of a game, whether you are more likely to play a game because of it. And yes, Weaste in particular has constantly said it's the be all and end all, by far the most important thing (way more than software, or features or whatever else)
I doubt it...
Instead of saying the average or casual gamer doesn't know any better so who cares? why not inform them, who knows they might even appreciate it.
It's not a whole lot different from the current terms or even Sonys. Sharing info with other partners has always been in the Terms of Service for both.
It's this segment:
It's possible that my dad could confirm me as a non-fraudulent user though.
If my key data points were compared across my Xbox Live account and my dad's Sky account which I log in with then it would return nothing but discrepancies.
It's possible that my dad could confirm me as a non-fraudulent user though.
Smoother visuals and controls DOES affect gameplay, it just does.
Graphic shiny stuff (like Cider's lighting and particles) are much lesser.
The fact we aren't getting 1080p @60fps properly is frankly shocking. Cod on the Wii-U (for example) could be exactly the same game with just lesser graphics and run at that. That will play better than anything rendered and run less.
Would you Dad be willing to let you use his details for your Xbox Live account? Sky don't stop this with any other devices, so I can't see them taking issue with it on Xbox specifically.
Edit: Alock beat me to it.
Ok, but your dad is consenting right? Register under your dad's address...
Ok, but your dad is consenting right? Register under your dad's address...
Not anymore...
A fresh new start.
Just saw this:
Blockbuster back in administration, not sure many people would even pre-order from there but even so not great news.
Just saw this:
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2...k-in-administration-for-second-time-this-year
Blockbuster back in administration, not sure many people would even pre-order from there but even so not great news.
Little extra nope on the no thank you pie.
Always been optional though, an option I've never partaken, be it Sony, Microsoft or Nintendo.
Has it? Can you even have ps+ and use xbox live features/apps without agreeing to these? Are you sure?
MS is talking about 3rd party...
That's odd, I'm sure there was a box to check if you wanted to allow them to share the info, maybe I'm thinking of third party sharing.
'If you do not consent to allow us to share your personal information with third parties for the purpose of providing you with access to SEN First Party Services content, you will not be able to participate in any SEN First Party Services.'
Just get your dad to set up a sub account in your name?
I do the same as use, i only watch Sky for football, so my dad lets me use his Sky Go. He's got his main account and i have a sub account under my own login details.
Unless I'm missing something, that's still a way short of sharing your name, address, email & d.o.b, as is being proposed by MS above?
Oh for real? Just as well I registered with dummy data... I always do. My point still stands though... no likey.
Edit: I looked that up, that's for a SEN Account, not a PSN account... Find me the PSN equivalent please.