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Because it's not very good?

Because HE isn't that good?

Because HE has a stinking attitude?

Because HE refuses to listen to what his seniors tell him for his own good?

Yeah, I wonder why that guy isn't the number one guy.
And yet the greatest professional wrestler of all time wants to be his manager
 

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Because it's not very good?

Because HE isn't that good?

Because HE has a stinking attitude?

Because HE refuses to listen to what his seniors tell him for his own good?

Yeah, I wonder why that guy isn't the number one guy.
So many questions...
 

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Flair. If Flair can see money in him, there's definitely something there. Hogan's the biggest, not the greatest.
Flair, who's biggest spell in talent spotting so far was getting David pushed to the moon, sees money in him?

That's me convinced. While were at it make Maradona Man United manager, what can possibly go wrong?
 

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Because it's not very good?

Because HE isn't that good?

Because HE has a stinking attitude?

Because HE refuses to listen to what his seniors tell him for his own good?

Yeah, I wonder why that guy isn't the number one guy.
1) It's a very good promo. It's natural and it's believable. Only problem I have - with Ziggler as a face - with some of these promos is that they can be forced.

2) Nonsense. Ziggler is a talented wrestler that's still over with the crowd, in spite of the horrible booking.

3) No he doesn't. He would have been released if that was the case. WWE use him well, knowing that they can get quality matches out of him as a "jobber". However, he's responsible for his current position.

4) Ok.

No, I don't want Ziggler to be the number one guy.
 

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Flair, who's biggest spell in talent spotting so far was getting David pushed to the moon, sees money in him?

That's me convinced. While were at it make Maradona Man United manager, what can possibly go wrong?
*Trying to think of someone Flair spotted*

I'll edit the above later. Can't compare scouting to managing, though. Also, the 'How could...' peaked at JTG.
 

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*Trying to think of someone Flair spotted*

I'll edit the above later. Can't compare scouting to managing, though. Also, the 'How could...' peaked at JTG.
But you said he's got something because Flair sees money in him, I'm telling you that's the equivalent to saying Maradona seeing someone as a star that they must be one. We all know how that has worked out.
 

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1) It's a very good promo. It's natural and it's believable. Only problem I have - with Ziggler as a face - with some of these promos is that they can be forced.

2) Nonsense. Ziggler is a talented wrestler that's still over with the crowd, in spite of the horrible booking.

3) No he doesn't. He would have been released if that was the case. WWE use him well, knowing that they can get quality matches out of him as a "jobber". However, he's responsible for his current position.

4) Ok.

No, I don't want Ziggler to be the number one guy.
That comes across as incredibly forced, so did that shite one everyone raved about.

Goldberg was over for 15 years. He was fecking terrible.

You misunderstand how a business works. There's enough marks for them to sell shirts and he makes up the numbers on the house shoes. Weirdly you also seem to agree with me in your paragraph though so I dunno.
 

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That comes across as incredibly forced, so did that shite one everyone raved about.

Goldberg was over for 15 years. He was fecking terrible.

You misunderstand how a business works. There's enough marks for them to sell shirts and he makes up the numbers on the house shoes. Weirdly you also seem to agree with me in your paragraph though so I dunno.
His first one was better because it was the first promo where Ziggler acted like that, from what I know. It was natural and unique. I thought this one was good, though I can't see any fault with anyone calling it forced.

I know exactly how WWE works, and I've already mentioned that they need wrestlers like him. Regardless of his quality, he's merely someone who loses matches to make others looked. He can hold his own in the ring, too. My point, however, isn't that he should be number one - I don't know where you got that from. My point is that he should be utilised better (at his level). Have him in a feud for the Intercontinental title. That's why him being over can help in this situation.
 

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His first one was better because it was the first promo where Ziggler acted like that, from what I know. It was natural and unique. I thought this one was good, though I can't see any fault with anyone calling it forced.

I know exactly how WWE works, and I've already mentioned that they need wrestlers like him. Regardless of his quality, he's merely someone who loses matches to make others looked. He can hold his own in the ring, too. My point, however, isn't that he should be number one - I don't know where you got that from. My point is that he should be utilised better (at his level). Have him in a feud for the Intercontinental title. That's why him being over can help in this situation.
I watched his first and was actively cringing at how forced it was. Talking quietly AND THEN SHOUTING FOR NO REASON isn't how normal people talk, even when they're in his kayfabe position, it just wasn't realistic.

He's over, but he ignores orders from management. It's very simple why he's not used more, they don't like his attitude.
 

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Feck Ziggler, more people should be talking about Ambrose.

 

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Roman Reigns shouldn't speak. His segment on Main Event was painful. Just stand about and brood forever Roman!!
 

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Cena and Brock on the Summerslam poster.

Still don't see it being for the strap (assuming that's the headline), would make no sense with Brock's deal.

Started thinking we may get a cash in almost immediately or a Kane title win if Bryan's recovery has improved.
 

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Cena and Brock on the Summerslam poster.

Still don't see it being for the strap (assuming that's the headline), would make no sense with Brock's deal.

Started thinking we may get a cash in almost immediately or a Kane title win if Bryan's recovery has improved.

I said it myself that I reckon it could happen. Cena is a safe bet for the strap. I don't think Lesnars dates are that big a deal. Maybe they added dates due to a championship run. Who knows. We will see where they decide to go but I maintain that I think Lesnar will compete for the title at Summerslam.
 

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Cena Vs Lesnor would be a draw to the non wrestling fans anyway so why not keep the championship away from that match and have a second main event for the championship, would make much more sense.