I know given his age he probably doesn't have any resell value, but still he is cheaper than Fellaini though, who doesn't have any resell value at all.
Filipe Luis
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I know given his age he probably doesn't have any resell value, but still he is cheaper than Fellaini though, who doesn't have any resell value at all.
He's a right now signing. Gives them 2-3 years of a player at his peak. In that time they will get someone else lined up. Jose doesn't really have time to blood youngsters. Great signing for them.
If that Wallace kid turns out to be decent they can play Azpilicueta as RB and Luis LB and then switch Azpilicueta to LB and have Wallace as RB.
Cracking signing, Luis and Hazard down the left is going to be a nightmare.
His age is probably a small issue but if they can win 3 or 4 major trophies before he is past it then I think it'll be money well spent.
Great signing. His replacement (Siqueira) ain't half bad either. So now Chelsea will line up with 3 of Atletico's championship winning team next season. Going to look strange at first.
Surely he can't be that good as he didn't make Scolari's WC squad?? 
Siqueira, another great Brasilian left back too actually
3?
Costa, Filipe and Courtois
It was €20m, which makes it about £16m.
Surely he can't be that good as he didn't make Scolari's WC squad??
Best left back in the world apparently. The Chelsea fans know more than Scolari about Luis and they know more about Fabregas than the last four (fourth being current) Barcelona managers.
In my opinion, Luis, Fabregas and Costa all improve Chelsea in areas they needed improvement but the fuss over these players carries a lot more hype than what we're even used to on the caf. As an example, Van Persie didn't have his best performances at the world cup but he completely outshined Costa.
Costa was unfit, and doesn't fit the style of del Bosque's Spanish side. It was not a surprise to see him flop. If you watched enough of Atletico over the last couple of years then you would know that Luis is one of the top left backs around. Scolari made plenty of dodgy selections so using that as a stick to beat him with is unfair. Fabregas was one of the world's top midfielders before moving to Spain, and he had to displace the best midfield trio of the last god knows how many years. If he can rediscover his Arsenal form then Chelsea fans will be laughing.
Costa was a fitness and a tactical gamble that didn't work out, or as one of the Spanish commentators phrased it: Brazil and Spain would have been better teams if Costa had chosen Brazil.
If any manager can do a Simeone with Costa though, it's probably Mourinho.
Same with Luis, he'll fit the Chelsea house style so the price is fair.
They are three of the best players in the world in their positions, they deserve some hype.
Are you an Arsenal supporter? You shit on anything Chelsea related immediately and display no objectivity whatsoever.
Name a better or more complete LB than Luis.
Luis was the best lb in the world last season and is a great signing for Chelsea.
Unless you can count Lahm as a left back (which would be cheeky since he rarely plays there), I'd say Luis is the best in the world at left back ATM. He was brilliant for Atletico.
Lahm is a RB not LB.
He's played both over the years.
Technically he was a central midfielder most of last season
True.
Yeah. Which is strange when you consider how brilliant he is at RB. Look at how much better Germany looked with him in defense rather than midfield.
No objectivity? I said those players will improve Chelsea but I don't think the hype is fair.
I backed this up by saying that three Barcelona managers played Fabregas in a more forward role as opposed to the midfield and even with Xavi in the twilight of his career, none of those managers thought Cesc could replace him. Del Bosque, the Spanish coach, agreed with the Barcelona coaches and didn't rely on Cesc in midfield. The current Barca manager had no plans for Cesc going forward and so he was sold. But Chelsea fans act as though they've signed one of the absolute best midfielders in the world. There was a case for saying he would become one (he wasn't as good as Scholes at the time) when he was still with Arsenal, but he now has to prove himself all over again in the premier league. Not saying he won't, just asking for a bit of objectivity, ironically.
Also, I said Luis wasn't picked for Brazil. Scolari should know the players better than any of us and he favoured others to Luis. Does that mean Luis is not good? no, it just means I find the claims that he's certainly the best left back in the world slightly annoying.
I said Costa didn't have the best of world cups, which is true. You can say it was systems or playing styles or whatever else, but he's got to prove himself now in the premier league.
You can have whatever opinion you like, these are the facts. This is objectivity.
Is in his prime, going onto 29 in August, even if he gives Chelsea a few years and helps them win trophies it's money well spent.
Fabregas was one of the best CM's in the PL before his move to Barca, Costa scored a lot of goals and Scolari is a fool. You're telling me Maxwell is better than Luis? Scolari had his favorites. He played Fred and Hulk all tournament
Scolari picked players like Hulk, Paulinho, Jo, and Fred. All terrible players who regularly started for them. He played Marcelo and Alves who can't defend to save their lives. Him not taking his best fullback isn't a surprise when you consider how stupid most of his decisions were.
The real question is whether he'll drop either Ivanovic or Azpilicueta for him. I suspect he might end up rotating Ivanovic and Azpilicueta at RB with Azpilicueta playing at LB when Luis is rested.
Fabregas was one of the best CM's in the PL before his move to Barca, Costa scored a lot of goals and Scolari is a fool. You're telling me Maxwell is better than Luis? Scolari had his favorites. He played Fred and Hulk all tournament
I don't really understand this argument. He played those players because they were all he had and Hulk was Brazil's most dangerous player in many of their games despite how everybody likes to joke about him.
He wont drop Cesar.
Didn't they buy Tiago too? Am I losing my shit?
Also, why does every thread I enter contain people arguing about Brasil's world cup squad?
Not yet. It's been strongly rumoured though so you're not losing your shit...
How good is Tiago these days? Didn't pay much attention to him this past season.
tiago´s contract expired. So I guess they sign him as back-up for backups and maybe he helps the new players to adapt to the new environment. He wont play a lot.
Not great, certainly not good enough for Chelsea anyway. He had a good season but he's one of the ones at Atlético that you could safely say was a good fit for the system rather than actually being a good player.
Willian sat on the bench. Lucas, Felipe, Miranda left at home. Starting Paulinho after his shit season. Hulk probably had one good game as well.
It's obvious you haven't even seen Luis play.
He could just play Azpi on the wing again.
He left some good players at home, but none of them were strikers. Fred was genuinely the best option. There were valid arguments for the likes of Hulk and Paulinho to be dropped but this same team had been together for a whole year, had impressed in that time and absolutely hammered Spain.
Bear in mind Brazil were heavy favourites before the tournament, and all the way up to the semis.
It didn't seem like he even wanted to look at alternatives. When Spain lacked a striker they went with a false 9 and won trophies. Also, Scolari picking his favorites and leaving players who had such a great season (Luis) is quite simply idiotic. Leaving Luis at home for Maxwell (granted Maxwell had a decent season) makes no sense either. Is it really that important that your back up LB was one of your favorites so you bring him instead of a player who proved to be one of the best in his positions? It makes no sense.
Scollari deserved to get sacked/resign over his poor selection of players.