@Sphaero How do you feel about this signing? Considering what Watzke(?) said about Dortmund having too many no.10s. Didn't Reus say he wanted to play through the middle? Then there's Micky Targaryen in the team as well. Unless Kagawa is being signed in preparation for Reus' departure next season.
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Ridiculously poor price for a great player.
Bingo.
Its just a matter of time before Reus moves on, I can imagine Kagawa going straight back into the #10 role, that's how highly Klopp considers him.
Barrios went to China which practically means he ended his career at that point.
Reus played on the left for almost two years, before moving into a more central position just before the end of last season. I don't think move says anything about his future, Dortmund were always going to be interested in Kagawa once he's on the market and if anything this is probably a reason to stay for Reus.
Also if Klopp continues to play with a diamond we might see Kagawa as #10 and Reus as a supporting striker/in a free role something which he already played really well at Gladbach.
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I really hope this deal will go through. I never liked Kagawa and he certainly had his chances but was never anywhere close to being up for it. He's not PL material at all. He's the kind of player you would find in a team like Hull. He happened to break through in europe because Dortmund had a fantastic era and dominated their league together with Bayern. We didn't overpay for him - 12m euro for a "star" is a joke. He got found out and I'm happy he's finally understood there's no place for a player like him in a team like Manchester United. ANd PLEASE spare us with all this "he is better than that" talk. He had years and years to prove himself. He's junk, so just keep shut.
The point being of course that it would cost us money to keep him (in addition to his salary). By selling him we make a bit of cash, but also make a saving on the outstanding payments we still owe. That wouldn't be represented in the headline figure, but would make it more attractive to sell him for a lower cash value rather than keep him.
Good luck shinji, after the signing of mata he was never going to last long here. Hopefully he goes on to fulfill his potential here because he's incredibly talented and they suit him perfectly.
I tend to agree with this. I love Mata but feel Kagawa as a 10 would be more suited to our game.
Has he really shown himself to be that great? At Dortmund he was a small piece of a fine engine, a team that personifies the cliche of the quality of the team being greater than the sum of all its' parts. Is it a coincidence that Sahin & Kagawa, both supposed to be the teams best/most important players in their final seasons, both became anonymous with new clubs, and Dortmund barely missed them?
Pleased for him and Dortmund. He deserves to start for a top club. In this case he'll start for a better club(for now). In a few weeks(days?), he'll be drinking delicious German beer in a city where he's loved. The Yellow Wall will sing his name while he tears the Bundesliga apart(again), and he will have many wonderful nights in Europe.
Gutted as a United supporter though. Unless we make some BIG signings, I fear the day Mata is injured or in bad form. It's also a bit embarrassing to let Kagawa go, while Young, Valencia, Anderson and Fellaini remains. But the opinion of opposing supporters don't mean much anyways.
Good luck Shinji! The intelligent spectators will always know that you fought a pointless battle to begin with. Don't hate the league, hate our football post-Fergie
You're very sad.Point One: Utter bollocks..
Point Two: Years and years: He has had two full seasons with us, both of which under difference managers who fitted him in where they could.
I really feel for the guy, he absolutely loved this club and signing for us must have been a dream come true but unfortunately it just hasn't worked out for Shinji for a number of reasons. I hope he can find his form once again at Dortmund and return to the top quality player that attracted us to him in the first place.
Bye Bye Kagawa.
Bye Bye Kagawa.
On the plus side folks, this guy will be posting here way less now.Pleased for him and Dortmund. He deserves to start for a top club. In this case he'll start for a better club(for now). In a few weeks(days?), he'll be drinking delicious German beer in a city where he's loved. The Yellow Wall will sing his name while he tears the Bundesliga apart(again), and he will have many wonderful nights in Europe.
Gutted as a United supporter though. Unless we make some BIG signings, I fear the day Mata is injured or in bad form. It's also a bit embarrassing to let Kagawa go, while Young, Valencia, Anderson and Fellaini remains. But the opinion of opposing supporters don't mean much anyways.
Good luck Shinji! The intelligent spectators will always know that you fought a pointless battle to begin with. Don't hate the league, hate our football post-Fergie
ok. Shit like this are the worst comments, even worse then his biggest fanboys. A player you find at hull? 
Ignore him being Dortmunds best player before we bought him. He's a very good player who didn't suit our style at all. Not premier league material is bollocks, put him in Liverpool or arsenals teams and he'd look fantastic. Put him in uniteds static team and the same happens like with all #10's, they look a bit useless.
While Kagawa hasn't hit it off thus far, I am certain there is a top quality player there. It's a shame as I could see this ending up like a Forlan situation.
It's always sad to see a player leave when they dreamed of playing for United and who you knew would give it their all.
It's always sad to see a player leave when they dreamed of playing for United and who you knew would give it their all.
Unintelligent spectator spotted!
Better player then Mata IMO but just didn't get his chance properly. I think SAF was going to sell Rooney and play Kagawa behind RVP but the Moyes turned up bought Mata and the rest is history! Will be missed..
In Kagawa's case, being played out of position?
Don't agree he is better than Mata but agree that it's sad to see him leave and I'm certain he will be top quality for Dortmund.
This is one of the worst posts I've seen in redcafe.
Kagawa hasn't retired yet
Well they could do this..
Immobile reus
Kagawa
Mkhitaryan gundogan
Bender
Kagawa
Mkhitaryan gundogan
Bender
Though klopp likes having width so probably those in a 4-2-3-1 with Mkhitaryan on the right and reus left where he usually played.
I like Kagawa and wanted him to stay but to say people that don't rate him are unintelligent is just...well, unintelligent.Unintelligent spectator spotted!
Needing to play In team that suits your style doesn't mean someone is crap. It is true Kagawa won't single handedly take responsibility and make our side world class, but in the right set up in certain he can turn a great team into an even better one.
That is not what I wrote though...
Terrible post.
Kagawa will once again look like a world beater when he's put into a side with pace/energy and who focus on attacking with quick transitions/direct passing and a high press. It's no coincidence that Mata has looked like garbage playing behind Rooney/RVP and infront of this awful midfield.
Now tell us how you really feel.
I don't think Bender is suited for that Role, he's not good enough on the ball... I'd imagine Sahin or Kirch in his place.
Oh if they get something like that to work
The reason Shinji never made it here is simple: We signed him seemingly without any intention of fitting him into our team.
Great player, pointless signing. Like Mata.
Great player, pointless signing. Like Mata.
Pleased for him and Dortmund. He deserves to start for a top club. In this case he'll start for a better club(for now). In a few weeks(days?), he'll be drinking delicious German beer in a city where he's loved. The Yellow Wall will sing his name while he tears the Bundesliga apart(again), and he will have many wonderful nights in Europe.
Gutted as a United supporter though. Unless we make some BIG signings, I fear the day Mata is injured or in bad form. It's also a bit embarrassing to let Kagawa go, while Young, Valencia, Anderson and Fellaini remains. But the opinion of opposing supporters don't mean much anyways.
Good luck Shinji! The intelligent spectators will always know that you fought a pointless battle to begin with. Don't hate the league, hate our football post-Fergie
Nobody said he is crap - I agree with you but has Manchester United ever been that right set up for him? He would do better in a team like Arsenal in my view, but to call him a great player I think is wrong as great players do not depend upon a specific style of play.
people really think that the fee was low because we could have a better chance for Reus or Hummels in return? Ridiculous. Of course it will be better for our relations with Dortmund, but they seem like Atheltic in terms of selling their players. They dont want to sell them, unless it is a ridiculous offer. If a top club triggers Reus buyout clause, the club cant do anything about it. They surely wont sell Hummels to us.
Was obviously brought in to spear head fergies next big rebuild but things took a turn for the worse when fergie decided to retire. As a result we are left with an underwhelming Rooney and an unbalanced squad.
I do agree with you there. Although people tend to say that the Reus thing is done and he will leave next year for sure, I think that's pure bs, a lot depends on this season. Reus is in deed very happy at Dortmund, considering they'd give him the rise in pay he deserves all that's left is the question whether or not BVB is a serious challenger for titles. If they do that this year, going to the CL semis or something in that category, I do think that the chance of Reus staying is rather high, seeing how they have shown that they're willing to invest to stay succesfull.
But apparently there is a place for him in a team that's better than Manchester United. Go figure, he must be crap.
Same could be said of Berbatov.
Indeed.
What?
Berbatov went straight into the team replacing Tevez.
Kagawa was followed by signing RVP. Then getting a few games wide and barely any centrally in his first season
A player in a team like Hull?!
Like other posters have said above, this post is wrong on so many different levels, don't even know where to begin.
I hope he gets back to his best at Dortmund. It's a pity we couldn't keep him as backup for Mata, but at his age, you'd understand he wants to be first choice again.
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