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Wouldnt care who we sold to get a team like that together.
 

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Draxler is clearly a really talented player, but people on here tend to hype him far too much. His last season was awful and nowhere near the standard a player with his potential should be performing. He looked good against Chelsea yesterday, generally looked better in the CL over the last year and it sometimes seems to me, that he doesn't try hard enough in the normal games.

45 million is a lot of money and I can't see anyone paying that amount for him at the moment, based on his performances in the past year. He has to take the next step and become more influential and effective for Schalke.
This, plus for me he is better centrally where he can use his physical attributes to burst and jink past players rather than out wide.

Almost similar to Ross Barkley in a way.
 

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He'll end up at Bayern for sure next summer. What a talent
My prediction is that Bayern will opt for Draxler over Reus and Draxler will excell there while Reus will never reach his potential due to frequent injuries.
 

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I still don't like Draxler and one great game in 12 months won't change that. But I'm pretty sure we'll sign him before next season. All the rumours that he blocked a transfer to Arsenal, because Bayern told him that we take him a year later made too much sense to ignore :( . I also really like Reus and am convinced that he already told us to feck off, again, which I really hate :mad: .
 

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My prediction is that Bayern will opt for Draxler over Reus and Draxler will excell there while Reus will never reach his potential due to frequent injuries.
They are quite different ages and experience levels are they not? 20 and 25... 100 appearances vs 200 appearances
 

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Nothing more than it seemed strange to compare two players potentials of different ages/experience, clearly one has a higher potential than the other, why wouldn't Bayern opt for him? It wasn't meant to be drawn out anyway, if you were aware of the differences, then fair enough.
 

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Nothing more than it seemed strange to compare two players potentials of different ages/experience, clearly one has a higher potential than the other, why wouldn't Bayern opt for him? It wasn't meant to be drawn out anyway, if you were aware of the differences, then fair enough.
I'm not comparing them as players, I just think that Bayern will make a smart move for Draxler while the rest of Europe throw obscene wages at Reus. I then think Draxler will quietly become a very important player for Bayern while Reus, wherever he goes, is going to struggle to reach his huge potential thanks to a string of injuries.

It's just purely a prediction. I'll probably be completely wrong.
 

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He reminds me of the German Barkley.

Most of his game is based around athleticism, but has good technique and can dribble great too. Add that all up and you get a pretty dangerous player.

If he can improve on his eye or goal he could be really good, but I agree I don't think he will fit Pep's Bayern.

To be honest I think he would be Mourinho's perfect number 10.
Yeah, I always think this when I see him play.
 

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the comparison with barkley is quite good.

I still don't like Draxler and one great game in 12 months won't change that. But I'm pretty sure we'll sign him before next season. All the rumours that he blocked a transfer to Arsenal, because Bayern told him that we take him a year later made too much sense to ignore :( . I also really like Reus and am convinced that he already told us to feck off, again, which I really hate :mad: .
where the hell should he play?
Götze is not the same type of player, but occupies the only spot where he could play and Götze is eventually not even a nailed on starter if everybody is fit. Buying him as replacement for Ribery would be utterly stupid as well. This transfer for 45m makes no sense to me.
 

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I can see the Barkley comparisons, it will be interesting to see how both develop and if they end up at one of the giants.
 

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I sure as hell hope that he means it like that :lol:.

Sometimes the Caf is a really funny place. One strong performance can transform a player into a superstar.

Even with his struggles with injuries, form, new team, system and role Mario Götze performed on a higher level in his first season at Bayern than Draxler managed to do consistently in any of his seasons at Schalke. This is what Draxler always struggled with: consistency. He is simply not reliable, especially as the kind of lead player he wants to be. He should stop talking about it and start doing it.

I´m not even doubting his talent, because that is clearly there. His attitude and mentality are a whole other topic, though.
Spot on
 

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--------Falcao--------
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--------Rojo--Jones----
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Wouldnt care who we sold to get a team like that together.
Ronaldo not in the starting XI? :p
 

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I still don't like Draxler and one great game in 12 months won't change that. But I'm pretty sure we'll sign him before next season. All the rumours that he blocked a transfer to Arsenal, because Bayern told him that we take him a year later made too much sense to ignore :( . I also really like Reus and am convinced that he already told us to feck off, again, which I really hate :mad: .
Get in there Reus :lol: ..

Big IF but if Bayern don't sign him and Madrid don't sell Ronaldo to us (based on rumors) Then I see us in the pole position to land Reus if we're in for him :drool: (Or maybe Chelsea)
 

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Get in there Reus :lol: ..

Big IF but if Bayern don't sign him and Madrid don't sell Ronaldo to us (based on rumors) Then I see us in the pole position to land Reus if we're in for him :drool: (Or maybe Chelsea)
He'll stay at Dortmund in my opinion.

I'm also usually wrong when it comes to our signings, so better not trust my opinion in these things :lol:
 

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He is so nailed on for Bayern it's ridicoulus. I don't want Reus, we have enough injury prone players. Draxler is clearly an exceptional talent, able to play in Riberys position, german; and there have been a lot of rumours that a agreement between hom and Bayern has already heen reached.
 

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He'll stay at Dortmund in my opinion.

I'm also usually wrong when it comes to our signings, so better not trust my opinion in these things :lol:
Guess Ronaldo will have to do so... oh well :(
 

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where the hell should he play?
Götze is not the same type of player, but occupies the only spot where he could play and Götze is eventually not even a nailed on starter if everybody is fit. Buying him as replacement for Ribery would be utterly stupid as well. This transfer for 45m makes no sense to me.
I don't know. The problem is, we make too much money and need to spend some of it. We've just signed a new centerback, so I doubt we spend big again in defense. We maybe add another midfielder and definitely one attacker next summer.
 

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I don't know. The problem is, we make too much money and need to spend some of it. We've just signed a new centerback, so I doubt we spend big again in defense. We maybe add another midfielder and definitely one attacker next summer.
Let's wait for the next AGM in November, before making that determination. According to BILD our wage-bill increased by € 30M compared to the treble-winning season and that's a lot of money, even for a club like Bayern München. We cannot afford to spend another € 40M on fancies like Mario Götze who has yet to improve us one bit, while our engines are Robben and especially Ribéry are declining. Replacing Robbery with Draxler and Götze, who both haven't performed consistently at the highest level and prefer to play in the currently non-existent CAM role, would be a very bad and expensive joke.
 

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Let's wait for the next AGM in November, before making that determination. According to BILD our wage-bill increased by € 30M compared to the treble-winning season and that's a lot of money, even for a club like Bayern München. We cannot afford to spend another € 40M on fancies like Mario Götze who has yet to improve us one bit, while our engines are Robben and especially Ribéry are declining. Replacing Robbery with Draxler and Götze, who both haven't performed consistently at the highest level and prefer to play in the currently non-existent CAM role, would be a very bad and expensive joke.
Obviously you know your team way better than I do but looking at it you have Gotze and Thiago for the CAM/#10 style role in either a 4-4-2 diamond or a 3-4-3 or a 4-2-3-1 system. I think Muller and Shaqiri give you options on the right and left but I'd agree that another top wide player would seem more important than Draxler.
 

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Obviously you know your team way better than I do but looking at it you have Gotze and Thiago for the CAM/#10 style role in either a 4-4-2 diamond or a 3-4-3 or a 4-2-3-1 system. I think Muller and Shaqiri give you options on the right and left but I'd agree that another top wide player would seem more important than Draxler.
I'm pretty sure Xherdan Shaqiri plays no role in Bayern München's future plans, despite of what Matthias Sammer likes to tell the media. The only reason why he was forced to stay is our depth issue on the wing and the fact that the Swiss is a convenient makeshift solution. In 2014 it would have been difficult to attract a top-class winger / winger prospect to Bayern, because of market availability and the fact that Robbéry both had three years left on their contracts. Next year availability looks a lot more promising and the club can offer a better perspective with the injury-prone Ribéry at 32 and Robben at 31 years of age.

Thomas Müller can admittedly play the position of the right winger, but he cannot fill the role of Bayern München's most creative and dangerous attacking player. Especially with tons of injuries to important creative players like Ribéry and Thiago Alcantara. From the looks of it Mario Götze was definitely a bust as a potential heir to Robbéry on the wings (he might turn out good in a central role), which is why the next winger transfer has to be a hit.

Under those circumstances Julian Draxler would imo be a huge gamble, but maybe still the best choice we have. After all there are certain doubts about the ability of Marco Reus in a possession-stile team like Bayern München.
 

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I'm pretty sure Xherdan Shaqiri plays no role in Bayern München's future plans, despite of what Matthias Sammer likes to tell the media. The only reason why he was forced to stay is our depth issue on the wing and the fact that the Swiss is a convenient makeshift solution. In 2014 it would have been difficult to attract a top-class winger / winger prospect to Bayern, because of market availability and the fact that Robbéry both had three years left on their contracts. Next year availability looks a lot more promising and the club can offer a better perspective with the injury-prone Ribéry at 32 and Robben at 31 years of age.

Thomas Müller can admittedly play the position of the right winger, but he cannot fill the role of Bayern München's most creative and dangerous attacking player. Especially with tons of injuries to important creative players like Ribéry and Thiago Alcantara. From the looks of it Mario Götze was definitely a bust as a potential heir to Robbéry on the wings (he might turn out good in a central role), which is why the next winger transfer has to be a hit.

Under those circumstances Julian Draxler would imo be a huge gamble, but maybe still the best choice we have. After all there are certain doubts about the ability of Marco Reus in a possession-stile team like Bayern München.
He might very well be the best choice. Because, what else in this age bracket as left winger? Bernard (meh), Schürrle (pure counter-attacking player), Griezmann (VERY expensive), Sharawy (tempting if fit), Muniain (another spaniard?). Yeah, and after that, something like Insignie or Son. If you go down the age categorie, Januzaj or Depay probably?

Edit: I have hogh hopes for Kurt though. It might kust have been the exact right time to come to Munich.
 
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If Ribery is getting replaced, other player in different areas have to step up. The only player that could replace Ribery is Hazard and I doubt that we have any chance to sign him. It will be a tough job for the manager to split/share the responsibility that Ribery always took over. Ribery is so much more than a "normal" winger. He is the perfect mix of creative attacking midfielder and winger.
Despite his current injury, Robben hasnt lost any speed/acceleration yet. He might last longer than people expect, so I am not really worried yet.
 

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I'm pretty sure Xherdan Shaqiri plays no role in Bayern München's future plans, despite of what Matthias Sammer likes to tell the media. The only reason why he was forced to stay is our depth issue on the wing and the fact that the Swiss is a convenient makeshift solution. In 2014 it would have been difficult to attract a top-class winger / winger prospect to Bayern, because of market availability and the fact that Robbéry both had three years left on their contracts. Next year availability looks a lot more promising and the club can offer a better perspective with the injury-prone Ribéry at 32 and Robben at 31 years of age.

Thomas Müller can admittedly play the position of the right winger, but he cannot fill the role of Bayern München's most creative and dangerous attacking player. Especially with tons of injuries to important creative players like Ribéry and Thiago Alcantara. From the looks of it Mario Götze was definitely a bust as a potential heir to Robbéry on the wings (he might turn out good in a central role), which is why the next winger transfer has to be a hit.

Under those circumstances Julian Draxler would imo be a huge gamble, but maybe still the best choice we have. After all there are certain doubts about the ability of Marco Reus in a possession-stile team like Bayern München.
Interesting thoughts Balu. Shaqiri has always seemed to flatter to deceive but is still young so I thought maybe there was still hope for him at Bayern. I've heard the possession game comments about Reus before but is Draxler any more suited to the style? He doesn't seem like he'd be a natural in Ribery's role however he may be more adaptable than I realize as I admit I have not seen a lot of him.

Who would be your ideal Ribery replacement?
 

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To be fair, Pep is hardly going to be around forever. I bet he moves on from Bayern in 2-3 years MAX. Bayern's style won't stay possession based forever IMO.
 

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Interesting thoughts Balu. Shaqiri has always seemed to flatter to deceive but is still young so I thought maybe there was still hope for him at Bayern. I've heard the possession game comments about Reus before but is Draxler any more suited to the style? He doesn't seem like he'd be a natural in Ribery's role however he may be more adaptable than I realize as I admit I have not seen a lot of him.

Who would be your ideal Ribery replacement?
:nono:

I'd have Reus over Draxler in a possession based team any day and don't see any problems with it. Problem is that he won't join us and we're stuck with Draxler.
 

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I'd have Reus over Draxler in a possession based team any day and don't see any problems with it. Problem is that he won't join us and we're stuck with Draxler.
I feel similarly, but was rather pointing towards Pep Guardiola's assessment of Marco Reus as a 'striker' and the abundance of those in the squad.
 

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I'd have Reus over Draxler in a possession based team any day and don't see any problems with it. Problem is that he won't join us and we're stuck with Draxler.
:lol: Sorry to you both, 4 letters, both starting with Ba, honest mistake.

Are you sure Reus wont join you? I can never tell if the constant chatter about him this summer from your top brass was foreshadowing or merely stirring because he'd turned you down. I take it you don't rate Draxler?
 

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To be fair, Pep is hardly going to be around forever. I bet he moves on from Bayern in 2-3 years MAX. Bayern's style won't stay possession based forever IMO.
we played possession based football since LvG joined us. We played possession based football during the treble year and we will play possession based football after Pep left. I am fairly sure that our management understands, that sticking to a certain style help the club in the long run. A new manager might be less radical and change things in his way, but we wont appoint anyone who doesnt favour our style at all.

Reus and Draxler are nothing like Ribery and I am not talking about the level of performance but the skillset. They are completely different. The only players, that are somewhat similar to Ribery is Hazard. Di maria has some similarities, but developed differently. I wouldnt take Reus as replacement, because in our current system he would fit in as wide forward but not as creative player. I´d be okay to replace Robben with Reus; they are slightly more similar.
 

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:lol: Sorry to you both, 4 letters, both starting with Ba, honest mistake.

Are you sure Reus wont join you? I can never tell if the constant chatter about him this summer from your top brass was foreshadowing or merely stirring because he'd turned you down. I take it you don't rate Draxler?
He's clearly talented. I really dislike him though, not entirely sure why. And yes, I'm pretty sure Reus turned us down and Rummenigge acted like a cnut because of it.
 

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:lol: Sorry to you both, 4 letters, both starting with Ba, honest mistake.

Are you sure Reus wont join you? I can never tell if the constant chatter about him this summer from your top brass was foreshadowing or merely stirring because he'd turned you down. I take it you don't rate Draxler?
According to the theory, Karl-Heinz Rummenigge's reveal of a lower release clause in the contract of Marco Reus (€ 25M instead of € 35M), means that the player rejected a move to Bayern München for a second time. Otherwise Rummenigge would have no interest to make that piece of information public knowledge.

This line of thought has its merits, but I wouldn't be so sure, because any Director of Football is only one phonecall away from finding out the truth about that release clause from Marco's agency. Furthermore our officials have a record when it comes to boneheaded comments without a deeper agenda. In fact SportBild already reported about the € 25M clause in April of 2013 in the wake of the Götze transfer to Bayern.
 

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we played possession based football since LvG joined us. We played possession based football during the treble year and we will play possession based football after Pep left. I am fairly sure that our management understands, that sticking to a certain style help the club in the long run. A new manager might be less radical and change things in his way, but we wont appoint anyone who doesnt favour our style at all.

Reus and Draxler are nothing like Ribery and I am not talking about the level of performance but the skillset. They are completely different. The only players, that are somewhat similar to Ribery is Hazard. Di maria has some similarities, but developed differently. I wouldnt take Reus as replacement, because in our current system he would fit in as wide forward but not as creative player. I´d be okay to replace Robben with Reus; they are slightly more similar.
Perhaps, but I meant not to the extent that Guardiola demands. Draxler and Reus are good enough players to pass and move, but they are maybe not happy with the patient play and slow tempo of moves.
 

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we played possession based football since LvG joined us. We played possession based football during the treble year and we will play possession based football after Pep left. I am fairly sure that our management understands, that sticking to a certain style help the club in the long run. A new manager might be less radical and change things in his way, but we wont appoint anyone who doesnt favour our style at all.

Reus and Draxler are nothing like Ribery and I am not talking about the level of performance but the skillset. They are completely different. The only players, that are somewhat similar to Ribery is Hazard. Di maria has some similarities, but developed differently. I wouldnt take Reus as replacement, because in our current system he would fit in as wide forward but not as creative player. I´d be okay to replace Robben with Reus; they are slightly more similar.
I don't see a replacement for Ribery available anywhere, not sure Hazard is similar either. I still believe that Götze will add what Ribery brings to the team when he finally starts excelling in our team.