I don't know where it'll go either. My guess is she has her kid, for some reason still goes Istanbul with the kid and then something happens to it and then it focuses all on that. Its stupid but its the level at which the writers are aiming for.
Television Homeland | Season 5 spoilers
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This is so dumb. For real.
Shite finale. They tried to make it incredibly profound and all that jazz but just ended up with an annoying women doing some graffiti on a wall.
Danes has apparently said she's fed up of playing the same character. I'm fed up of her playing the character too.
Surely next season will be the last.
That finale was a mess.
Surely next season will be the last.
That finale was a mess.
And confirmed that the annoying daughter isn't a main character next season - hurrah.
One thing I've learned is that Carrie has a gift for drawing perfect stars. Brody's death looked like a joke to me, they could have done it better.
You could actually make a case for Brody only having one child this season. He only ever talked about his daughter, the only attempt he made to see his children before he went on that stupid mission was to see her and at no point does he event mention his son, or even ask to call him despite thinking he's on a one-way mission. Does he hate his son? I think I'd hate his son, because he has no emotions, or thoughts, or general point to his existence. He showed the same level of reaction to his father being the langley bomber than he did to his father returning home from 8 years of torture, which was also the same reaction to every question he's been asked, which is usually something about breakfast. What was the point of Dante (I can't spell her name so I'll just call her Dante) and that shit boyfriend arc? What was the point in any of that? Did Damien Lewis really sign on to the last shot of him on the show having a massively over-sized head that looked completely stupid? Has Saul ever believed in anything in his life, does he ever even entertain the possibility of an operation being a success? Does he just work on the assumption that everything they plan for will actually just be a total failure?
It did, didn't it? I actually let out a chuckle when I saw that they were using a hook off a massive construction vehicle in order the hang him, it looked so ridiculous and totally took away from the death of the shows second biggest character.
The whole season was a fecking mess, and completely absurd in every way. I remember Lewis saying on Top Gear earlier this year that the writers were very spontaneous and you could see that, so many pointless plot strands. Dana, her psycho boyfriend, the family in general, the Math girl, her uncle in Iran (that literally amounted to nothing), the hot girl who took care of Brody (was she basically just there cause she was hot), the paedo doctor. Giavati going after his wife, Saul's wife somehow boning the Israeli operate long before the Israeli operative was actually asked to spy on her by the director.
They also never explained the mole, or who moved the car, or why Carrie went "feck you Saul" in the mental hospital if she was in on it the whole damn time, seriously, what was that. it's like the writers did it purely for dramatic effect at the end of the episode and then expected us to forget about it later on as soon as they threw in another mental twist into the show.
Dante? Are you fecking kidding me? That's possibly harder to spell than Dana.
"Dante"
I wonder what kinda psycho her next boyfriend will beThe construction vehicule, Brody's face when he was dying, Carrie climbing the fence and shouting "Brody !! ". I mean wtf wast that lol ? The best filmed execution I think I watched on a TV show is Peter Saarsgard character in the Killing season 3, now that was proper intense and incredible. There was absolutely no build up to Brody's death, one minute we're told he's sentenced to death and 10-15 mins he goes out with a stupid face.
Well, that ending was pure shit.
If there was ever a way to say 'Hey, look over here I may have had something to do with what he's being executed for' it's to do what Carrie did.
The way shes climbed that fence......Talk about dramatic 
Shame she wasnt shot as well
Shame she wasnt shot as well
What an unusual show with a suitably weird finale. Brody's death was a fecked up scene, I swear the director of this show has problems. I did enjoy some of this series but that was in spite of the fact practically nothing made any sense.
I can't believe there's going to be another series
I can't believe there's going to be another series
Not sure why Brody's death scene is drawing so much ire. Fine it might have been better without showing his face, but using cranes and construction vehicles for executions in Iran is fairly common place so not unusual that they've included that detail.
I actually thought it was a fairly good finale on the whole and tied things up as much as they can be, which is why I'm surprised they're not ending the show now. Don't really see where they can go in a fourth season unless they change it up so Carrie isn't the main character and the focus moves onto Quinn or someone else.
The only loose end that is annoying me is that for all of season 1 and 2 there was a mole they were trying to discover and that particular major plot issue does seem to have been rather forgotten about, unless I missed something or it's going to be resolved down the line.
I actually thought it was a fairly good finale on the whole and tied things up as much as they can be, which is why I'm surprised they're not ending the show now. Don't really see where they can go in a fourth season unless they change it up so Carrie isn't the main character and the focus moves onto Quinn or someone else.
The only loose end that is annoying me is that for all of season 1 and 2 there was a mole they were trying to discover and that particular major plot issue does seem to have been rather forgotten about, unless I missed something or it's going to be resolved down the line.
I don't know how the show can work without Brody. Showtime did the same with Californication, 3 brilliant seasons, can end it on a high and decide to show a 4th season. I know the money is a big issue, but then why kill him? The just can just not work without him.
The difference between a good series that goes to shit and a great series is the decision making in these situations. Breaking Bad wanted to kill Jesse Pinkman in the first season but went against it, while Homeland decides to kill Brody. That's why Homeland can't be a top series, or won't be, because it could have.
I've fecked up big time, not sure what's happened, either I thought the finale was not the finale, or I downloaded the finale and as I was Ill last week forgotten to watch it, so now I've had the ending spoiled
Edit- nope I've just not realised there was another episode, wondered why the ending was a bit shit, it wasn't the fecking ending aarrrggghh
Edit- nope I've just not realised there was another episode, wondered why the ending was a bit shit, it wasn't the fecking ending aarrrggghh
switch iran with saudi arabia and it would be realistic. iran being the mastermind behind al-qaida is like India running LeT
I can think of few shows that have jumped the shark as profoundly than Homeland. Not a good year for Showtime. First Dexter, then this...
Because they killed off Brody? If anything, the mistake was not doing it earlier (ie. at the end of season 1.) I've never seen a show go from so good to so bad in such a short space of time. At least Dexter's decline came in phases, and after 4 (arguably even 5) good-to-very good seasons.
Aye, and you could tell this was always a one season show that ended up getting very, very popular, so the producers decided "shit, we can keep making money!" Season one would've been amazing if they just blew him up and left it with Carrie in the nutter.
A bit like Prison Break in that regard. I can't see how they can move forward with a 4th season of Homeland.
They could have killed him earlier, it would have been fantastic and the series would have had so much potential for new seasons. Thing is they held on to him for season 2, and then for season 3, making him quite important and key part of the story and the whole series.
It's not about killing him or keeping him, it's about how important you make a character and for how long you hold on to him. That's the decision making I'm talking about.
I just finished this and man I was pissed at wasting so much time with this garbage. I didnt get why Carrie was all pissed off in her house when Saul blamed her for everything in front of the senator on live TV. She was in on it, why did she react all angry... to her herself sitting alone in the house?!
Killing off Brody means I wont be watching this anymore. I cant take more of Carrie's overacting, its just too much for me. Unless I hear that the show is completely focusing on Quinn, with an episode where he punches Saul in his bearded mouth, this show is over for me.
Killing off Brody means I wont be watching this anymore. I cant take more of Carrie's overacting, its just too much for me. Unless I hear that the show is completely focusing on Quinn, with an episode where he punches Saul in his bearded mouth, this show is over for me.
Show definitely needed more Quinn.
Yes. Underused for sure.
Yes, it's superb.
Season 1 was pretty good but doesn't really maintain that level throughout.
No, it's not. What shows do you like?
This. You will find it hard not to keep binge-watching after Season 1, only to keep finding new depths.
I would personally recommend True Detective if you haven't seen it. Brilliant plot, first-rate acting, mesmerising filmmaking as a whole and it's only 1 season (so far) so not a big commitment.
I haven't seen it personally but many friends say The Shield is a really good show...
Only started watching Homeland a few months ago, and watched the Series 3 Finale last night.
Was left underwhelmed by the finale I suppose, which was a shame as the episodes preceding it were good. When it was unveiled that Carrie's mental state and being thrown under the bus by Saul was a play, I was surprised.
I read something last night that surprised me though, which was that the creators originally intended to kill off Brody at the end of season one, and Homeland was meant to focus on Carrie in the field. But Lewis' performances as Brody meant that they switched the focus of the show.
So Series 4 will either be very good as it was their original idea, or it will fall flat on its ar*e and Series 4 will be the last.
Was left underwhelmed by the finale I suppose, which was a shame as the episodes preceding it were good. When it was unveiled that Carrie's mental state and being thrown under the bus by Saul was a play, I was surprised.
I read something last night that surprised me though, which was that the creators originally intended to kill off Brody at the end of season one, and Homeland was meant to focus on Carrie in the field. But Lewis' performances as Brody meant that they switched the focus of the show.
So Series 4 will either be very good as it was their original idea, or it will fall flat on its ar*e and Series 4 will be the last.
Yeah, If Carrie was meant to be the main character, they really focused too much on Brody. I felt he was also the lead character, and I didn't expect him to die in the end. It will now feel a little empty without him in the show, which I think was an error if they wanted to continue the show.
Loved Homeland, but really can't see what can be done with no Brody, it won't be the same show.
Had a feeling which way they was trying to go last season with Brody missing half of the series, but yeah Brody is Homeland, him not in the series would be like Prison Break without Michael Scofield.
Had a feeling which way they was trying to go last season with Brody missing half of the series, but yeah Brody is Homeland, him not in the series would be like Prison Break without Michael Scofield.
Am I going to watch this? I spend almost all of my time giving out about it when I do, but I can't stop myself!
I'll watch it because I'm part of the reason for the Curse of Showtime. Weeds, Dexter and Californication have all dragged on too long, and Homeland looks to be heading in the same direction. But I've been invested in all of them and just can't seem to bring myself to quit.
Saying that, Claire Danes could make one sexy lumberjack so all's not lost just yet.
Saying that, Claire Danes could make one sexy lumberjack so all's not lost just yet.
Anyone know when it returns in the UK?
Has Dana been killed off? Stopped watching the show because of her.
I should never have come into this thread, I've just finished the second series and I'm aware the third is about to come on DVD and the fourth on telly.
Couldn't you cnuts have put a fecking spoiler warning in the thread title?
Couldn't you cnuts have put a fecking spoiler warning in the thread title?