I've just spotted this on the BBC timeline. What do we all reckon? Is there really not enough premier league footy on TV and should 3pm Saturday kickoffs still be locked out? Could we see a move to a La Liga style system with matches spanning the entire weekend?
Virgin media complains about lack of domestic premier league rights
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
It's only a matter of time until all games are televised.
I'd be interested to see what happens first, either:
a) 15:00 rule scrapped;
b) All matches played at a time other than 15:00 on a Saturday
a) 15:00 rule scrapped;
b) All matches played at a time other than 15:00 on a Saturday
Very unlikely for that to ever happen
The 15:00 rule is retarded. I don't go and watch non league football because I can't watch Manchester United. There again I was never into rugby for all that matter.
In the real world people watch it on an illegal stream if it’s not on TV. Getting rid of the 3 o’clock rule should be on the condition that tickets prices are lowered and the money from TV rights are shared amongst all Clubs in all the league, not just the big Clubs.
Yea I hope that never happens, its tradition, I love when I get to sit down in front of the tv and watch soccer Saturday.
This already happens.
If more rights are to be sold off, it's one or the other isn't it really? Ok, there might be a token game at 15:00 but any games worth showing could realistically be played at other times.
It would be better to drop the 15:00 rule, at least for Premier games though, IMO
I think all matches should be televised. Have few lunch time/evening kick offs with the majority at 3pm on a Saturday. Use the red button like Champions League matches.
Doubt that'll happen, though.
Doubt that'll happen, though.
For big clubs (prem) whether a match is televised or not is largely irrelevant right, match going fans would go regardless? Even if it did affect the amount of match going fans then surely it would drive the price of tickets down as clubs try and put bums on seats. Win win?
All matches are televised, just not in the UK, otherwise how would people be able to watch these illegal streams?
It's ridiculous that it is easier to watch football abroad than in the country the match is actually taking place.
The 3.00pm on Saturday rule is a nonsense anyway. I was always under the impression that it was brought in to stop blokes sitting on their arses all day Saturday watching football to get them to go out with their wives shopping (
), since we have Sunday trading now, that is irrelevant.
Not televising 3.00pm kickoffs on Saturday is almost as ridiculous and irrelevant as the Keep Sunday Special campaign.
It's ridiculous that it is easier to watch football abroad than in the country the match is actually taking place.
The 3.00pm on Saturday rule is a nonsense anyway. I was always under the impression that it was brought in to stop blokes sitting on their arses all day Saturday watching football to get them to go out with their wives shopping (
), since we have Sunday trading now, that is irrelevant.Not televising 3.00pm kickoffs on Saturday is almost as ridiculous and irrelevant as the Keep Sunday Special campaign.
The argument would be, if United vs City for example is on Sat 15:00, would 'casual' fans of other clubs (not season ticket holders), e.g. Forest, Bournemouth, Burton or whatever, prefer to stay in or go to the pub and watch that, rather than support their local team?
Some of these clubs will rely on tickets on the day, but I would have no idea on the weighting.
Some of these clubs will rely on tickets on the day, but I would have no idea on the weighting.
Should have said more evenly
Televising all Premiership matches would bring with it massive revenue, given the amount of money already in the game you can only imagine how much the top Clubs will make. Putting more money into the smaller lower league Clubs, as well as grass roots football would only be beneficial to all. Sadly if televising all PL games actually happens I fear greed will take over, it usually does when large amounts of money are involved, I can only see the rich getting richer and the poor going into administration and closing their doors.
I agree. The case against more games being televised is very weak. I can't watch the game I want to watch because some shitty lower league club in some shitty town is having trouble selling tickets? Bullshit.All matches are televised, just not in the UK, otherwise how would people be able to watch these illegal streams?
It's ridiculous that it is easier to watch football abroad than in the country the match is actually taking place.
The 3.00pm on Saturday rule is a nonsense anyway. I was always under the impression that it was brought in to stop blokes sitting on their arses all day Saturday watching football to get them to go out with their wives shopping (
Not televising 3.00pm kickoffs on Saturday is almost as ridiculous and irrelevant as the Keep Sunday Special campaign.
So how many BPL matches are actually on TV simultaneously in UK? In India, we have got like 4-5 matches at a time in exceptional cases like last day games.All matches are televised, just not in the UK, otherwise how would people be able to watch these illegal streams?
It's ridiculous that it is easier to watch football abroad than in the country the match is actually taking place.
The 3.00pm on Saturday rule is a nonsense anyway. I was always under the impression that it was brought in to stop blokes sitting on their arses all day Saturday watching football to get them to go out with their wives shopping (
Not televising 3.00pm kickoffs on Saturday is almost as ridiculous and irrelevant as the Keep Sunday Special campaign.
Actually, I may have misunderstood your initial post. Do you mean the money should be shared equally across just the PL? Or that the money should be shared equally across all leagues?
None at 3pm on Saturday, on other days there is rarely more than a couple of matches on at any one time so they show them all.
For me the 3 PM kick-off is for the convenience of the match going fans, going to and coming from the match, meeting up with your mates for a few pints, getting home in time with your kids, travel to and from the match etc. A 3PM kick off also adds to the atmosphere, when compared to a game that kicks off at 12:45, or 19:45 there is a notable difference IMO.
Sadly for the bigger Clubs not kicking off at 3pm has become the norm, I think we’ve only played at 3pm twice this season
Who gives a feck? Maybe I'm being harsh but why should supporters of other clubs suffer because the smaller club fans aren't committed enough? Isn't that what they pride themselves on anyway?
There are other ways of protecting smaller clubs. Move their kick off times, introduce better pricing schemes, give them a bigger share of the rights.
Across all leagues, including grass roots.
They should televise every game and make it available on one channel or through one subscription (like an online streaming pass for a particular team).
Why none at 3 PM? What is the rule? Where else do you watch these games?
In India, we have a season pass to stream all matches throughout the season for 5 pounds. And this is official.
In the Uk you can pay as much as £70 Per month to watch a few games.
I do find it odd that I can see every game of the premier league live on tv and I am on the other side of the world.
Online streaming or on TV?
The fact that we have to pay full prices for Sky and BT subscriptions in Ireland is a joke. We don't have the luxury of regularly going to the games.
Wow! I pay something like £30/month only for Sky Sports. BT's an extra £15 on top of that but can't afford that much.
As far as I'm aware, a season pass to stream games isn't available. You can only legally stream through official apps which just mirror the live game shown on Sky/BT. Pathetic really that UK viewers don't have an option to watch all the games live.
Sky TV, and BT Sport TV
Can you imagine how much it would cost? A hell of alot more than £30 per month anyway.
Damn that's expensive. What is the 3pm rule that all games can't be televised?
Setenta show one 3pm kick-off don’t they? How much is it?
Most likely yes, but there should be an option available for people who want to see every game of their team live on TV. To not even have that option for fans in the UK is wrong, imo.
No games can be shown on TV between 2:45pm and 5:15pm. They missed the start of Classico this season because of this dumb rule.
It’s not wrong, there are reasons behind it. They don’t do it just to be spiteful in fact they are being protective to other less fortunate Clubs.
Personally, I’d love to see every United game, but I can certainly understand why all Premier League games aren’t shown on TV. Thankfully, we are one of the lucky ones with only two of our first 11 games not being shown on TV.
Oh..That's so dumb as most games actually are at 3pm kick-offs.
I would get mad over here in India if I would miss a single BPL Chelsea game or even a league cup match. I wonder how you all cope with it.
BT usually show the Saturday lunchtime kick-off while Sky shows Saturday teatime, a couple of games on Sunday and possibly one on Monday so we only get to see half the games each week at most and for big prices.
United and City haven't played at 3pm on a saturday in about 15 years, there would be no reason for that to change. Sky would still want the big matches on a sunday or saturday morning.
The lower leagues in england are some of the best attended leagues in europe, the championship has higher attendances than some other countries top level leagues. Losing a few fair weather fans is not going to affect them nearly as much as they would have you believe.
Fans who would prefer to watch other teams than their local one at 3pm already can and do in the pub or through streams. The drop in attendances would be minimal.
The 3pm blackout is one of the most backward things about televised football in the UK it needed scrapped years ago.
Maybe thats thanks to the 3PM rule?
The matches are moved for TV now yes; I'm just stating why the rule was brought in. Taken to the extreme though, could all games not be moved out of this restriction so that they may also be shown? I agree the rule should've been scrapped ages ago, but so far it has been resisted.
Which would be more likely to go first? Virgin would buy any new rights as would BT and Sky.