Sheep Draft - Annohnonononomoss vs BorisDeLeFordFiesta

Who would win based on player peak?


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Boris has a great team with no glaring weaknesses in terms of player quality and a higher average level through out the side. Both my wings stand out as great strengths though with Garrincha on one side and Brehme and Boniek on the other.

Team Annah
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Team Boris
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This is my team. At a high level, it's very attacking, the full backs will bomb forward when they get the chance, Pires will cut in from a wide left position as he did, linking up with the three playmakers in the centre of the pitch.

Annah has two unbelievable wide players in Garrincha and Boniek, as far as I am concerned I don't have the players to try and contain them, thus this side is set up in a relatively gung ho fashion, with the aim of outscoring the opposition.

In Buffon I have the best goalkeeper in the draft, and in front of him I have a good combination of strength, power, and ability on the ball, in Lucio and Tresor. At full back Lizarazu and Cafu are primarily attack minded, however both are also fairly decent defensively as well. Now, I'm not saying they are going to come out on top of any duels going back the way, but both are capable of putting up a fight, and have the athleticism to match counter attacking runs.

In midfield I have Souness and Gerson as deep lying players. Souness is the grafter but on top of that he was also a fantastic footballer in his own right, capable of picking out forward passes and scoring the odd goal. Beside him as the main playmaker of my side is Gerson, who had an unbelievable range of passing. It's important to remember that Gerson was also relatively solid defensively as well, and wasn't afraid to put his foot in when it mattered.

Ahead of those I have Socrates in a central attacking midfield role and Stojkovic starting slightly right but drifting in and around Socrates and Shevchenko. I am hoping that Socrates and Stojkovic can link up similarly to the way in which Zico and Socrates linked up for Brazil. Pires would then provide a threat from the left hand side, another technically and creatively excellent player who was incredibly efficient in the final third at his peak and will look to create or shoot at any opportunity.

Finally up front I have Shevchenko, who in his peak years at Milan yielded 175 goals in 196 games, not a bad return in Italy. Yes he was terrible for Chelsea, but that's not the Sheva I picked. His combination of pace and movement will his runs will consistently be spotted and picked out by the quality of the creative players behind him.

Obviously there is one massive flaw in my team, as the attacking midfield three weren't necessarily known for tracking back all the time, but I think they would be efficient enough in attack to make up the balance.

A small bit on some of the perhaps lesser known players:

Dragan Stojkovic
Stojkovic gained 84 caps for Yugoslavia over an 18 year period, scoring 15 goals. Throughout his career he excelled as a number 10, and possessed fantastic control, dribbling skills, passing, and creativity. He was a key player for Red Star and was named the best player in Yugoslavia twice, before moving to Marseille in 1990, where he suffered a serious knee injury and never really recovered. Here is a youtube highlight video of him taking the piss:




I know these can prove anything but it's important to note that a lot of the time he is receiving the ball under pressure or gets surrounded by players but he still manages to retain possession, this is vitally important for my teams style of play. Socrates was similar in that he could use his strength and skill to hold off players, and these characteristics are vital considering the type of midfield players Annah possesses.

Gerson
Gerson was the deep lying playmaker of the great 1970 Brazil team that won the world cup. He linked the defence and attack and set the tempo for the way that they played, He was named man of the match and scored the vital second Brazilian goal of the final that year. Perhaps his greatest asset was his long passing, and thus any lapses in concentration from Annah's defence and he will pick Shevchenko out from anywhere. Here is his world cup final goal;

 
"Annah has two unbelievable wide players in Garrincha and Boniek, as far as I am concerned I don't have the players to try and contain them, thus this side is set up in a relatively gung ho fashion, with the aim of outscoring the opposition."

Modest to say the least. :lol: You have Lizarazu and Cafu and they are both among the top full backs in history, Lizarazu often underrated but he's not far off someone like Cafu.
 
"Annah has two unbelievable wide players in Garrincha and Boniek, as far as I am concerned I don't have the players to try and contain them, thus this side is set up in a relatively gung ho fashion, with the aim of outscoring the opposition."

Modest to say the least. :lol: You have Lizarazu and Cafu and they are both among the top full backs in history, Lizarazu often underrated but he's not far off someone like Cafu.
Bar Maldini, there is no other left back, people would buy doing a job on Garrincha.
 
Would have voted for Boris if his front 3 at least had one player from a tier above.
 
Bar Maldini, there is no other left back, people would buy doing a job on Garrincha.

:D That match will always be remembered as everything that is wrong with these drafts.

I am quite happy with this part of Boris tactics "Annah has two unbelievable wide players in Garrincha and Boniek, as far as I am concerned I don't have the players to try and contain them, thus this side is set up in a relatively gung ho fashion, with the aim of outscoring the opposition.".

I think an open game with a lot of space and opportunities back and forth will benefit Garrincha/Boniek really well. Especially with Guardiola being one of the better specialists for such a game as well. I'd say he is one of the deep lying playmakers most specialized at the counter-attacking/extremely direct game.
 
:D That match will always be remembered as everything that is wrong with these drafts.

I am quite happy with this part of Boris tactics "Annah has two unbelievable wide players in Garrincha and Boniek, as far as I am concerned I don't have the players to try and contain them, thus this side is set up in a relatively gung ho fashion, with the aim of outscoring the opposition.".

I think an open game with a lot of space and opportunities back and forth will benefit Garrincha/Boniek really well. Especially with Guardiola being one of the better specialists for such a game as well. I'd say he is one of the deep lying playmakers most specialized at the counter-attacking/extremely direct game.
Agreed. I'd prefer to tighten things up against wingers with so much speed with a DLP with Guardiola's passing range. IMO this is what Ancelotti does against Barca, just trying to give the wingers as much space as possible to hit the counters using their speed and nothing more.
I'd rather let this type of wingers minimum space and overload that wing with players to minimize their effect
 
I really love the midfield battle here with the incredibly beautiful Gerson/Socrates/Souness combination up against a slightly worse, uglier and more gritty midfield in Essien/Mackay and Guardiola. One of those matches you'd just love to see. Gerson and Socrates especially defining, providing that utmost Brazilian brilliance with great intricate passing.
 
I really love the midfield battle here with the incredibly beautiful Gerson/Socrates/Souness combination up against a slightly worse, uglier and more gritty midfield in Essien/Mackay and Guardiola. One of those matches you'd just love to see. Gerson and Socrates especially defining, providing that utmost Brazilian brilliance with great intricate passing.
I don't really think there's much battle there as Boris' midfield is comfortably better and not slightly.
The only thing stopping me from voting here is the fact that I'm unsure of Boris' plan to give you freedom and space on the wings, seems so wrong
 
Agreed. I'd prefer to tighten things up against wingers with so much speed with a DLP with Guardiola's passing range. IMO this is what Ancelotti does against Barca, just trying to give the wingers as much space as possible to hit the counters using their speed and nothing more.
I'd rather let this type of wingers minimum space and overload that wing with players to minimize their effect

I agree, I would personally have seen it as maybe the better option but I can see where Boris is coming from too. Socrates, Gerson partnered up with Souness makes for a midfield you'd really love to allow a lot of time on the ball and chances to play a bit risky. Cafu and Lizarazu wouldn't be caught out completely very often even if they are supposed to be gung-hu or offensive.

But it will definitely open up a lot more space than if he sat back more of course.
 
I don't have the players to close out the gaps on the wings. Imagine telling Robert Pires to run after Garrincha? It would just be a waste of everyone's time. He has advantages in some areas, I have in others, in a match I'd pretty much be banking on hopefully creating more chances and being more clinical in front of goal.
 
Think Annah has the better attack but Boris with the better midfield and defence.
 
Interesting match-up.
  • Not a lot being made of Brehme's role here. With no real right-winger to occupy him, he could be a fantastic outlet for Annah down the left, especially with his midfield excelling in the straightforward but crucial aspect of winning the ball and spreading it wide.
  • 21 legends and Noe Pamarot. He does look like the area of least resistance, especially with Pires so deadly when hitting that channel between the full-back and centre-half.
  • Like Boris' shape: plays to the strengths of Cafu and Stojkovic
  • Tactically both teams are really well set up. Kudos to both gaffers.
 
For me, Boris has the edge here, but it's Brehme and the wingers holding me back from voting for him.
 
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I don't really think there's much battle there as Boris' midfield is comfortably better and not slightly.
The only thing stopping me from voting here is the fact that I'm unsure of Boris' plan to give you freedom and space on the wings, seems so wrong

I agree with Annah that its an interesting battle. I like that structure at the minute of a DLP flanked by two aggressive ball winners, and Mackay by all acounts was superb on the ball as well as being a great ball-winner. Souness in Boris' team ultimately ensures he's not going to get out-competed in that area, but I don't see Annah's midfield getting walked over either.
 
This match appears to have died a slow painful death, but I'll spout some shite and see what happens.

The way I see it is that my team would be set out in a very attacking fashion, with the full backs providing width and three playmakers plus Pires who essentially was one linking up in the centre and creating chances for a striker with incredible movement and finishing abilities.

The team I created does not have midfielders that particularly like to defend, bar Souness, so my logic in that situation would be feck it, let them do what they want. Now, obviously, this would mean that Garrincha on the right and Brehme/Boniek on the left would get ample opportunities to penetrate my defence but my counter argument is this; whatever advantage the likes of Boniek or Garrinca may have over my defenders, my attackers have the same over the likes of fecking Ivanovic and the sheep. So, yes Garrincha may run rings around my defence at some point, but at the same time, the Pires/Lizarazu combo is up against Ivanovic on the outside channel and Pamarot on the inside. There is no way they are good enough at this draft level to deal with that, and if it causes Essien to shuttle across and aid in their defence, which I believe it would, all that would do is allow more space for Socrates, Gerson, and Stojkovic to feck about and do things in the middle.

Basically I am just reiterating the fact that my team may have flaws but Annahs team also has flaws and his team's flaws (Le Sheep) are more easily taken advantage from my players than my team's flaws from his players.
 
Not a lot being made of Brehme's role here. With no real right-winger to occupy him, he could be a fantastic outlet for Annah down the left, especially with his midfield excelling in the straightforward but crucial aspect of winning the ball and spreading it wide.
Yeah that's what drove me to vote Annah eventually. If the score wasn't so one-sided I might've changed my vote
 
Voted Boris in the end. Think Pamarot is out of his depth here and is the decider for me at least. The rest of the pitch is very much even.
 
Voting against your own team. That must be a draft first!

Well done boris.
You could see it coming a mile away. Not sure what's up with Annah these days but he doesn't give a crap any more.
 
Haha, we both voted against each other.

Good game.

Good game mate, happy to see you go through. Not a lot for you to upgrade really, just keep fate in Tresor(who deserves a run at a final, that is how good he was and he is always underrated to death).