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And here's Anto trying to be all magnanimous by voluntarily opting out.You aren't allowed to vote anyway. You had way too much influence in sajeev's team to accept you as a neutral here.
And here's Anto trying to be all magnanimous by voluntarily opting out.You aren't allowed to vote anyway. You had way too much influence in sajeev's team to accept you as a neutral here.
I'd agree, he wasn't dominant back then, Davids was the one. I think it's more the early promise and excitement of such a young player operating so effectively that leads to the over-crediting. That young and dynamic Ajax midfield, with Rijkaard as the elder statesman bringing them through was mouth-watering. I have to agree at the time you got the impression they would take over the WC/Euros but they never quite managed to amid all the arrogance and infighting we are accustomed to with the Dutch.Yes I'm guilty of over-crediting Seedorf there. Davids was the clear leader of Holland's midfield in 1998 and 2000 and it was Cocu and Ronald De Boer who were the nearest performers. Seedorf was a decent cog in the system, but his presence wasn't really missed when Davids ran the show against Argentina and Brazil in those great battles in 1998. But certainly that Ajax vintage and Holland's 1998/2000 midfield almost invariably dominated whoever they came up against.
I completely agree with Veron's strength as you and antohan talked about earlier. And that I can't dispute against at all, and haven't argued thatFWIW I think you've argued this point brilliantly. What you say here makes perfect sense.
If there's an issue - of sorts - with Veron, it would be what anto touched on above, namely that his greatest strength is arguably a bit wasted here, given the lack of dedicated wide men. His pin point, long range passing isn't something you can obviously use to your advantage here - although it will certainly come in handy if and when either Reuter or Ossie makes a run down the wing.
Defensively, the plan is sound. People seem to overlook the actual prowess of Vieira and Ossie - who are more than capable of doing precisely what you expect them to do here.
No, the opposite, you said that one had to stay back for Bergkamp. And my point was there's a halfway point between attacking way up the pitch and staying back, which is lingering around the halfway line while the other fullback does push up all the way. That's actually the most common thing, and in drafts we tend to perceive fullbacks to be at one end of the pitch or the other.Just getting back to this from yesterday. I have no idea why you named me there, when at no point did I say that both of sajeevs will be attacking.
It's not like they will get dangerous crosses in all game long, of course. The point though is they entertain your fullbacks, and in the middle you have two proper defenders to sajeev's three. So he is stretching the more vulnerable core, while you are not doing enough stretching of a more robust one, which is what people have been pointing out.About the first point, you're right, however I still don't see his fullbacks getting that much joy in getting too many crosses in with any regularity.
In fairness, I've been FAR more involved with other teams in the past without ever getting the AM tag. In this draft, given its a sheep draft I avoided helping many though, which is what has landed me that tag I guess. Which is fine, of course, and it wasn't about being magnanimous, more the opposite. Last night I went to bed with Sajeev trailing by 4 and I woke up to him being ahead (good job @sajeev) so just wanted to make it clear in case anyone was reserving his vote in case there was any controversy. Fact is, had I voted 2-3 probably would have switched in retaliation!And here's Anto trying to be all magnanimous by voluntarily opting out.
That's not good then. I've been far less involved in teams and abstained from voting because of it.In fairness, I've been FAR more involved with other teams in the past without ever getting the AM tag.
I don't think the 3 in a line would have made a difference. It's not that Verón looked a DM, it's that what he had to offer (in the same way as Pirlo ain't a DM) was a bit wasted here, while what Márquez had to offer was bloody useful.I completely agree with Veron's strength as you and antohan talked about earlier. And that I can't dispute against at all, and haven't argued that
And that's spot on about Vieira and Ossie. Them and Veron defend as a unit, not Veron alone as a dedicated DM would attempt to do.
Perhaps i should have put all 3 CMs in a line, in the lineup graphic...
Actually, I often vote against them Ultimately it's about whether you feel you are being biased or not IMO.That's not good then. I've been far less involved in teams and abstained from voting because of it.
PM to the draft master: Five shooters who put the ball LEFT, MIDDLE or RIGHT + five choices by your keeper (LEFT, MIDDLE, RIGHT).Just for knowledge sakes, how does the penalty shootout happen?
I think it was @The Man Himselfbtw who changed teams to give me victory?
Thanks a lot
Ouch, that would have been a lot of fun!PM to the draft master: Five shooters who put the ball LEFT, MIDDLE or RIGHT + five choices by your keeper (LEFT, MIDDLE, RIGHT).
If you're very very lucky, you'll never find out. My first penalty shoot-out cost me easily 5 years of my life and I needed a new F5 key for my laptop.Just for knowledge sakes, how does the penalty shootout happen?
And you missed all five of themIf you're very very lucky, you'll never find out. My first penalty shoot-out cost me easily 5 years of my life and I needed a new F5 key for my laptop.
I kinda live for thrills like that though. Of course I'd say differently the first time I ended up losingIf you're very very lucky, you'll never find out. My first penalty shoot-out cost me easily 5 years of my life and I needed a new F5 key for my laptop.
Naah I didn't change. I voted today, one time only for sajeev.I think it was @The Man Himself
That was the 3rd one, the first one was the one in the World Cup draft against TITO, which I won because Baresi skied it again .And you missed all five of them
I'll never forget you beating me in the auction draft. My team was amazing with barely a big name and I had a shit load saved up to spend on reinforcements.That was the 3rd one, the first one was the one in the World Cup draft against TITO, which I won because Baresi skied it again .
I had just as much money though . And got robbed in the next game against MJJ, when Sagna had del Piero in his pocketI'll never forget you beating me in the auction draft. My team was amazing with barely a big name and I had a shit load saved up to spend on reinforcements.
didn't ashley Cole destroy nedved as well in the same game.I had just as much money though . And got robbed in the next game against MJJ, when Sagna had del Piero in his pocket
It was more surprising that Marquez had such a great game against Crespo.didn't ashley Cole destroy nedved as well in the same game.
Was that the one I did? :PIf you're very very lucky, you'll never find out. My first penalty shoot-out cost me easily 5 years of my life and I needed a new F5 key for my laptop.
Oi! It's obvious it was down to Nesta that, no need to have a dig at Rafa, not today.It was more surprising that Marquez had such a great game against Crespo.
If I remember correctly, Nesta was helping Sagna against del Piero at the same time and yes I'm bitter.Oi! It's obvious it was down to Nesta that, no need to have a dig at Rafa, not today.
That front six thoughIt was more surprising that Marquez had such a great game against Crespo.
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I still don't get it. And I would have added Zidane for Veron after the game, had by far the biggest remaining budget
But it's Nesta! He can keep two in his pocket at the same time, no problem.If I remember correctly, Nesta was helping Sagna against del Piero at the same time and yes I'm bitter.
It's quite obvious that this is what they would do. I would find it strange that people would actually see Veron as a dedicated DM.I completely agree with Veron's strength as you and antohan talked about earlier. And that I can't dispute against at all, and haven't argued that
And that's spot on about Vieira and Ossie. Them and Veron defend as a unit, not Veron alone as a dedicated DM would attempt to do.
Perhaps i should have put all 3 CMs in a line, in the lineup graphic...
As a player and as the total package Bossis is clearly the better option. Able to play anywhere and any role in a back 5. Brilliant with the ball, being excellent defensively and the ridiculous versatility which is Ruud Krol like. Give me Bossis over Costacurta anyday.Bossis = Costacurta? Le Grand Max? Interesting