I don't think I heard DiMaria complain, and for all we know it hasn't been the changing of positions that has made him want to leave.
So he refused to listen and had a bad attitude so that sounds like it is all on him then.
Maybe he didnt complain but it sure seemed he doesnt like to be at United.
I said I'm guesing, tbh I really don't know. None of us know. Di Maria isn't the only player LVG seems to have fallen out with. Just go and read what Rafael wrote in his farewell letter, or some of the unsavory things that has seemed to go on between him and RVP and Valdes.
I understand your pissed, so am I.
He played one game as a "striker" and it looked to be a very free role to me. He certainly wasn't leading the line in any kind of a conventional way.
I agree with you, and haven't said anything otherwise. All I said is that LVG has to take some blame, esp for dicking him about a bit.
Well maybe but one think everyone is forgeting is that the 9/10 people who bought Di Maria shirt would probably still bought a shirt even if we wouldn't sign Di Maria, they would just went with the other player. I trully hate when Real Madrid fans start to talk how much they earned with shirt sales of their new shiny toys.
Most said that di Maria needed to be played consistently in the same position(rightly as a criticism to LVG) and that this season would be his real chance to prove himself. Except he's running off at the first chance. The rest of our players seem to have the right attitude - I'll do whatever is best for the team - and we need that at the club more than a 'Galactico' who thinks they're above it all.
All good points.
Lets get real, we don't know what LVG said to him, and every presser when I have heard LVG speak about him, I don't get the feeling LVG trusts or has faith in him.
Well, the same could have been said of Herrera or Mata - both seemed to be on the outside looking in for much of the first half of the season. He never spoke highly of them and dropped them regularly. But they clearly continued to work hard in practice and took their chance when it came. Di Maria looked like he quit on the team long before the end of the season. For me, that's unforgivable and LVG is right to get rid.
He would have been hanged if he did the latter at Real Madrid especially with Ronaldo around. I still don't understand where all that shooting from anywhere came from. I don't think LVG was happy with it.
Agree with you on that, spot on.
I don't deal in that sort of speculation, as that is not what I saw, when he came on as a sub in games he played. He didn't refuse to play. Sometimes ok, sometimes a bit poor, sometimes well. He didn't get on that much and hardly played after the FA cup game, another time where he seemed to show he cared and showed a bit of passion (even if it was misdirected)
It's what a lot of other people saw. It was obvious at the time tbf. Even more so with hindsight.
Yeah it was also obv with RVP when Moyes was here too.. If we remove emotion and assess it objectively there is very little evidence.
What sort of "evidence" are you looking for?
None, like I said I don't deal in that sort of speculation. He was a sub, and when called upon to play as a sub he came on and played. Sometimes he produced an assist or 2, sometimes he didn't play well. Now some can say he didn't play well because he couldn't be asked, some will note that it could also be possible that playing 15/20 mins at the end of a game doesn't give you time to get into the game and show your stuff.
I think everything is pretty much done to be honest.
Yes, but he was answering a question, not like he gave a press conference about how he will potentially move to PSG.
Its almost the same that was said by the body language experts about the relationship between Giggs and LvG.
The same "body language experts" who deduced that Di Maria was unhappy at United? Almost as though you can't dismiss all that stuff out of hand, right?
A stopped clock, etc. For every transfer rumour/body language analysis/vague misinterpretable quote that ends up looking prophetic in the end, there are at least 10 that don't, that everyone instantly forgets about. You can, and should dismiss it 99% of the time.
You do realise this whole "LVG didn't play him in his rightful position" thing is a myth right? he was given an advanced free role in the team which is why in his best performances he was basically coming from every angle.
It's not a myth at all. He played him in his best position a handful of times, followed by dicking about with him as a striker, on the left wing, on the right wing, followed by him eventually being dropped after injuries.
That's how I see it too. His starting position varied - and he often changed positions during a game - but he seemed to have the most freedom of any player out there. And that was consistent throughout the season.
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The Di Maria i watched last season was terrible in every position he played, granted his performances worsened during the second half of the season but that is due to LVG prioritising a top 4 finish over every individual, the whole team was crazy during that period....we were trying everything.
He was very good for the first two months of the season before his injury, so that's harsh. I've no idea why, post-injury, LvG used him as a striker. It was a truly baffling call, and unsurprisingly he played poor there and that's where everything went to shite with him.
Yup.
