I'd say he's obviously a sweeper, but doesn't that include being a temporary CB when the situation requires it?That's a bit wishy washy and non-committal tbh. Is he a CB or a sweeper in between two CBs?
I'd say he's obviously a sweeper, but doesn't that include being a temporary CB when the situation requires it?That's a bit wishy washy and non-committal tbh. Is he a CB or a sweeper in between two CBs?
Of course it does. I'm just not sure what's so hard about saying: I don't have a RB but an RCB, an LCB and a sweeper between them. As opposed to a great CB pair where some makeshift RB tucks in momentarily to allow one CB to become a libero. It just looks quite confused and I think these games can go down to the clarity of the gameplan, particularly when creating arrangements which are unfamiliar to what these players usually did.I'd say he's obviously a sweeper, but doesn't that include being a temporary CB when the situation requires it?
Exactly. I'd much rather have a less "structured" formation but one that can make sense instead of putting a top player out of position and sending him doing all sorts of stuff he's not accustom to.Of course it does. I'm just not sure what's so hard about saying: I don't have a RB but an RCB, an LCB and a sweeper between them. As opposed to a great CB pair where some makeshift RB tucks in momentarily to allow one CB to become a libero. It just looks quite confused and I think these games can go down to the clarity of the gameplan, particularly when creating arrangements which are unfamiliar to what these players usually did.
That's odd IMO. Because Kempes is exactly the type of attacker you want Thigao Silva to face in this situation. He is not someone who will hug the line and force Silva out wide, he will cut in almost always and allow Silva to tuck in and close out the space for him. Kempes was not a traditional winger and Silva is as good as facing a forward/striker hereVery hard call for me, I actually think MJJ/Crappy is the best side in the draft if it wasn't for the RB cock-up, but after long consideration I've decided to give Kempes the benefit of the doubt to take advantage of it, especially with a killer like Law in front.
Ours is much more in tune with reality. Figo and Henry's positions are very close to what it would be. As is Marcelo's and Silva's. Only thing that requires correction is positions of Kroos and Vieira, with latter being deeper than being shown.Both gaffers have gone for symmetrical team-sheets when the reality and what their players prefer is altogether more lopsided.
Gallego was Argentina's starting DM in their 1978 WC winning team, and a Copa Libertadores winner with River Plate and a frequent inclusion in their all-time XIs. I watched the 1978 WC Final before drafting him, and have subsequently watched a bit more of him, and he looks a brilliant if low key defensive midfielder to me. He was playing in a fairly demanding set up, with Passarella surging forward from centre back and Ardiles playing basically the same attacking right-sided midfield role that Schuster is here, but he just always seemed to be in the right place and he was a hard-tackling, feisty bastard as well. He was no Pirlo in terms of spreading the ball around, but he looked an astute short passer too who rarely gave the ball away. I'd made several utterly boring gifs that I swiftly lost, but here's a fresh one of him disposessing Neeskens and seeming annoyed afterwards:@Pat_Mustard more details on Gallego and Rosato please
and he seems to come into the equation as a candidate for a 2nd or more often 3rd choice Italy XI - still an excellent defender but no Baresi basically. What he's got going for him here is the proven partnership with Schnellinger in possibly Milan's greatest pre-Baresi defence, and a great performance in the 1970 WC semi-final vs Germany against one of the few forwards who can replicate Romario's explosiveness and movement. That match finished 1-1 after normal time, with Schnellinger scoring in the 91st minute for Germany. Rosato was substituted and Muller swiftly scored twice . Rosato also did this when he was on the pitch:Roberto Rosato was an Italian footballer, who played as a defender. A strong, consistent, hard-tackling, and tenacious man-marking centre-back, he is regarded as one of the greatest and most complete Italian defenders of all time, due to his strong performances throughout his career. In addition to his tough, determined, physical, and aggressive style of play, he was also extremely composed and elegant on the ball, due to his notable technical ability and balance; he was also known for his commanding influence on the pitch
thats impressive.
Ah fair enough. This is certainly mid-career Schuster and he won't be marauding down the right wing - the idea is more that he can still swing in a great cross or cross-field pass on occasion from a Beckham-esque wide right midfielder area, which I think is a reasonable ask from any version of Schuster.Not a problem, the issue is he was a different player after his injury. He was less mobile and couldn't be as dynamic in an AM role as he was in his earlier days (e.g. you don't have the younger Schuster foraging out wide then, you would have something closer to that Leverkusen one).
It's one of the great stories in terms of a player reinventing himself and staying at the top despite an injury thaat could have wrecked other careers. Early Schuster is an AM, you may even call him box-to-box depending on the setup. The later Schuster was more of a quarterback dictating and marshalling the midfield from deep.
Sure he can, no probs.Ah fair enough. This is certainly mid-career Schuster and he won't be marauding down the right wing - the idea is more that he can still swing in a great cross or cross-field pass on occasion from a Beckham-esque wide right midfielder area, which I think is a reasonable ask from any version of Schuster.
No problem mate. I'm no expert on him and I absolutely believe Romario would cause him problems, but he really does seem an excellent centre back.thats impressive.
and thanks for taking the trouble to educate me
Such a properly dirty match that one. There's probably four yellow cards in that single GIF. Loved it.Gallego was Argentina's starting DM in their 1978 WC winning team, and a Copa Libertadores winner with River Plate and a frequent inclusion in their all-time XIs. I watched the 1978 WC Final before drafting him, and have subsequently watched a bit more of him, and he looks a brilliant if low key defensive midfielder to me. He was playing in a fairly demanding set up, with Passarella surging forward from centre back and Ardiles playing basically the same attacking right-sided midfield role that Schuster is here, but he just always seemed to be in the right place and he was a hard-tackling, feisty bastard as well. He was no Pirlo in terms of spreading the ball around, but he looked an astute short passer too who rarely gave the ball away. I'd made several utterly boring gifs that I swiftly lost, but here's a fresh one of him disposessing Neeskens and seeming annoyed afterwards:
Nothing fancy, but illustrates the type of player I think I've drafted - basically a tough-tackling, positionally astute DM proven at the highest level.
It was sordid. An awful match to watch, although the Kempes goals and Gallego generally being a hard bastard made it tolerable for me given that I wanted to draft them. The scoreline isn't likely to be turned around, but the thought of Gallego drop-kicking Kroos into the air continues to amuse meSuch a properly dirty match that one. There's probably four yellow cards in that single GIF. Loved it.
It depends on the situation? He obviously won't be playing with a freedom that a libero would in a five man backline. I could have answered that he is a sweeper but obviously during the stretches of play when Thiago will go wide he will drop back and play as a centre back. Thus he has more responsibility than a normal sweeper would.That's a bit wishy washy and non-committal tbh. Is he a CB or a sweeper in between two CBs?
but the thought of Gallego drop-kicking Kroos into the air continues to amuse me
Try having another nap before you voteI'm seeing this one a bit differently today than I was yesterday. Last night I was leaning towards MJJ/Crappy but today, that midfield of Gallego, Schuster, Chalrton is just screaming quality at me. I also think Simonsen and Kempes would be really effective and I prefer Pats fullbacks.
But then the opposition have the better centre backs as well as a front 3 of Figo, Henry and Romario. The 3 matches that are live right now are among the most difficult to choose between that I've seen in these drafts.
The midfield is the biggest quality differential on show here. Guardiola and Kroos will play some lovely football on the ball but his three will have serious problems when they lose possession against Schuster and Charlton. Just imagine Charlton running at Guardiola and do the right thingI'm seeing this one a bit differently today than I was yesterday. Last night I was leaning towards MJJ/Crappy but today, that midfield of Gallego, Schuster, Chalrton is just screaming quality at me. I also think Simonsen and Kempes would be really effective and I prefer Pats fullbacks.
But then the opposition have the better centre backs as well as a front 3 of Figo, Henry and Romario. The 3 matches that are live right now are among the most difficult to choose between that I've seen in these drafts.
I think I need one. Honestly these 3 games are ridiculous. I feel a bit embarrassed going through to the next round with my lesser spotted Baresi brother and a dressing room full of attacking midfielders/Number10's.Try having another nap before you vote
You also failed to answer this bit at allIt depends on the situation? He obviously won't be playing with a freedom that a libero would in a five man backline. I could have answered that he is a sweeper but obviously during the stretches of play when Thiago will go wide he will drop back and play as a centre back. Thus he has more responsibility than a normal sweeper would.
1) How deep/high are your respective defensive lines?
I did, I said it was average. I dont think you have a side that can be nullified by playing a deeper or a higher line, since you have enough in attack to make both lines suffer. No obvious weakness in attack or midfield at all.You also failed to answer this bit at all
Sorry, I missed that when I was skimming through the thread again.I did, I said it was average. I dont think you have a side that can be nullified by playing a deeper or a higher line, since you have enough in attack to make both lines suffer. No obvious weakness in attack or midfield at all.
With sammer there to aid them, they wont need to do a lot of closing down. Similarly, while my team lacks in work-rate it doesnt in creativity or passing. Either kroos, sammer or guardiola can release a perfectly lofted ball for my front three who are extremely quick. Am not sure about gallego so wont comment a lot on him, but I struggle to think of too many midfielders who can stop a prime vieira with or without the ball.Sorry, I missed that when I was skimming through the thread again.
Average line seems a fair call tactically on balance, but it does open up more space in midfield that Kroos and Guardiola will struggle to close down. Unless there's a huge gap between your defence and attack it will also keep Romario pretty far from our goal when you regain possession which I'm happy with.
If that means that Sammer is coming out of defence into midfield as per his libero prime then your defensive line is going to be shambolic.With sammer there to aid them, they wont need to do a lot of closing down. Similarly, while my team lacks in work-rate it doesnt in creativity or passing. Either kroos, sammer or guardiola can release a perfectly lofted ball for my front three who are extremely quick. Am not sure about gallego so wont comment a lot on him, but I struggle to think of too many midfielders who can stop a prime vieira with or without the ball.
Thanks. I thought we would lose this game, so pleasantly surprisedCongratulations @MJJ and @crappycraperson