Obtainable Attackers

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Following on from Neville's comments about needing a Bale, Suarez, Neymar or Ronaldo, I thought I'd touch on something I'd mention before... The complete lack of great attackers that are obtainable right now due to most of them already being at top clubs.

Firstly, I think it's safe to rule out signing one from the likes of Barca, Real, Bayern, Arsenal, Chelsea and City.

So the following are ruled out:

Messi, Neymar, Suarez, Iniesta, Ronaldo, Benzema, James, Bale, Muller, Lewandowski, Douglas Costa, (Robben and Ribery who aren't worth considering now anyway) Sanchez, Ozil, Costa (lol), Hazard, Augero, Sterling, KDB, Silva.

The only two players I can think of that are close to that bracket and not at that tier of club are Griezmann and Reus who I still think would both be a huge challenge to sign as they are both already at highly reputed, financially stable clubs.

Anyone else?
 
Pexbo said:
Following on from Neville's comments about needing a Bale, Suarez, Neymar or Ronaldo, I thought I'd touch on something I'd mention before... The complete lack of great attackers that are obtainable right now due to most of them already being at top clubs.

Firstly, I think it's safe to rule out signing one from the likes of Barca, Real, Bayern, Arsenal, Chelsea and City.

So the following are ruled out:

Messi, Neymar, Suarez, Iniesta, Ronaldo, Benzema, James, Bale, Muller, Lewandowski, Douglas Costa, (Robben and Ribery who aren't worth considering now anyway) Sanchez, Ozil, Costa (lol), Hazard, Augero, Sterling, KDB, Silva.

The only two players I can think of that are close to that bracket and not at that tier of club are Griezmann and Reus who I still think would both be a huge challenge to sign as they are both already at highly reputed, financially stable clubs.

Anyone else?
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Aubameyang.
 
If you're looking for established attacking players, I'd say Ibrahimovic, Nolito, Llorente, Lacazete, and maybe Higuain.
 
Griezmann, he won't be cheap but I think he could do us a world of good with his speed and movement.
Kane, don't know if he is obtainable but he would be a huge improvement for us.
Aubameyang, I don't think he would cost as much as the two others and he's probably not as good either but he is a proven goalscorer and has some serious pace in him.
 
Brown Toothpick said:
If you're looking for established attacking players, I'd say Ibrahimovic, Nolito, Llorente, Lacazete, and maybe Higuain.
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Lacazette (potentially) and Ibrahimovic aside I really don't see how any of them could be classed as anywhere near that bracket of player anymore. Nothing to see here.
 
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the hea said:
Griezmann, he won't be cheap but I think he could do us a world of good with his speed and movement.
Kane, don't know if he is obtainable but he would be a huge improvement for us.
Aubameyang, I don't think he would cost as much as the two others and he's probably not as good either but he is a proven goalscorer and has some serious pace in him.
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Don't take the piss. Aubameyang is a level above Kane and questionably better then Griezmann.
 
Gol123 said:
Don't take the piss. Aubameyang is a level above Kane and questionably better then Griezmann.
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I wouldn't go that far. The difference between them is not that huge, but Aubameyang is more what we need compared to Kane and would be cheaper than both.
 
Griezmann, Reus, Aubameyang (said he wants to play in La Liga, though), Gotze, Isco, Lacazette. Diego Costa is probably available now. That Alex Texeira is having a great season - I've never seen him properly, though.

Also, I'm not sure Ronaldo is ruled out. Seems to be a well-known secret that he's leaving Madrid this summer.

A few Chelsea players might be there for the taking if they don't make the CL. Willian? Maybe Hazard?
 
Teixeira potentially. Lacazette has been mentioned. Coutinho has potential and Isco can be bribed to move
 
Gol123 said:
Aubameyang.
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We have a winner! Fantastic player just on the cusp of finding his true level. Much better clinical wise the last 18 months.

But our attacking problems lie mainly on going from defence to attack. We don't have overlapping full backs (excluding Shaw currently), Darmian isn't a ball playing full back as yet. So we don't get in behind as much.

We don't really have a focal point between midfield and attack. Swein, Morgan and Carrick pick up similar positions from deep. Herrera done well there for a bit, and Roo is as meh as ever there.

And our wingers aren't doing the business either. We need a goals, but we also need creative flair from wide and centrally.

We have a very good base, but we are still well short in a terms of attacking prowess in a number of positions.
 
Mane Griezzeman Reus
Lacazette

Felipe Gotze Sane
Aubameyang

Would love to see us sign any of these.
 
Anyone suggested needs pace and the ability to beat a man, that is imperative in LvG's system unless you are a unique talent like Muller.

I would worry that Reus is too soft and fragile for the PL, Griezmann is the obvious choice for one. After that you are either talking about lower level punts like Mahrez and Mane or younger Martial-esque potential like Sane, Dybala and Barkley. I like Nolito but I'm not sure this league would suit him at his stage of his career.

Those are the ones for the positions around the #9, if LvG decides to use Martial from the left more then Lukaku and Morata might be our best shots for a #9.
 
rpitroda said:
I wouldn't go that far. The difference between them is not that huge, but Aubameyang is more what we need compared to Kane and would be cheaper than both.
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Aubameyang has 24 in 22 this season and had 25 in 46 last season. In fact, he is 7 goals off Kanes only top scoring season (31 in 51) and it is only November. He is the top scorer in the whole of Europe right now. He is clearly a level above Kane.
 
Gol123 said:
Don't take the piss. Aubameyang is a level above Kane and questionably better then Griezmann.
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You are probably right I haven't watched a lot of Dortmund in the last year but the feeling I have gotten about him is that his overall game is not as good as the other two's. I thought he is more of a speed merchant but as I said I haven't watched to many Dortmund games so that is more the impression I got from his early days at Dortmund.
 
the hea said:
You are probably right I haven't watched a lot of Dortmund in the last year but the feeling I have gotten about him is that his overall game is not as good as the other two's. I thought he is more of a speed merchant but as I said I haven't watched to many Dortmund games so that is more the impression I got from his early days at Dortmund.
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He is fast as feck. Probably the fastest player in Europe. However, he has pretty much everything you want in a striker and more.
 
Aubameyang just signed a new contract that runs until 2020, what makes you guys think he's on the market - let alone cheap?
 
the hea said:
Griezmann, he won't be cheap but I think he could do us a world of good with his speed and movement.
Kane, don't know if he is obtainable but he would be a huge improvement for us.
Aubameyang, I don't think he would cost as much as the two others and he's probably not as good either but he is a proven goalscorer and has some serious pace in him.
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Aubameyang not as good as Kane? I admittedly haven't watched him much, but from what I've read here and elsewhere, it sounds like he's every bit as good, if not better. Can any of the Dortmund folks enlighten? I don't know how to tag those posters, so if anyone can do that for me...
 
Aubameyang is CL quality but I think he'll stay with us for a while. :drool:
 
jem said:
Aubameyang not as good as Kane? I admittedly haven't watched him much, but from what I've read here and elsewhere, it sounds like he's every bit as good, if not better. Can any of the Dortmund folks enlighten? I don't know how to tag those posters, so if anyone can do that for me...
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@Sphaero
 
jem said:
Aubameyang not as good as Kane? I admittedly haven't watched him much, but from what I've read here and elsewhere, it sounds like he's every bit as good, if not better. Can any of the Dortmund folks enlighten? I don't know how to tag those posters, so if anyone can do that for me...
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Aubameyang is comfortably better than Kane. Best striker in Europe not named Suárez, Agüero or Lewandowski; and IMO he's closer to Lewandowski or Agüero level than Kane is to his. Doubt he'll leave Dortmund though. Long term contract, they don't need to sell (Götze had a buyout clause and Lewandowski was in the last year of his contract), and he'll probably only leave for the big Spanish duo for a massive fee.
 
Or we could find players who will grow into the likes Ronaldo, Messi, Neymar, etc.

Costa, before moving to Bayern, wasn't raved about as much as he is now, yet, he's arguably been Bayern's best player this season. Certainly a player we could have done with now. The talent is out there. We just need to look, instead of making silly bids for the players you mentioned that are not obtainable, i.e. Muller and Neymar.

Players like Texiera, Mane, Mahrez, Felipe Anderson, Brahimi, Barkley, Fekir could all be the game changers we could do with in our team.
 
Only top player that would be attainable at this moment would be Griezmann.
 
Walters_19_MuFc said:
Or we could find players who will grow into the likes Ronaldo, Messi, Neymar, etc.

Costa, before moving to Bayern, wasn't raved about as much as he is now, yet, he's arguably been Bayern's best player this season. Certainly a player we could have done with now. The talent is out there. We just need to look, instead of making silly bids for the players you mentioned that are not obtainable, i.e. Muller and Neymar.

Players like Texiera, Mane, Mahrez, Felipe Anderson, Brahimi, Barkley, Fekir could all be the game changers we could do with in our team.
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In fairness Pex's OP states those players from the other giants are not available and asks who is that is close to being ready. Fekir is a player I'd have definitely listed but I think we'll need to see how he recovers from his ACL injury.
 
Who has actually seen Anderson play regularly? He scored a few worldies in a few matches last year but more often than not he's non existent. Candreva is a far far superior player. Berardi would be my pick for a serie a player that could be obtainable. He's still ery young and Juve probably have an agreement in place for him. I don't watch French football much but Lacazette hasn't been setting the world alight this season....regardless, i think Fekir is a much better player but we need to see how he does when he's back from his ACL injury. Bernardo Silva has looked unreal whenever I've seen him for Portugal or Monaco. He's more of a #10 rather than a wide player though.
 
I'd be happy with any of Mane, Anderson, Moura, Lukaku, Kane, they all seem to be in that tier slightly below the very best, but all still young enough to improve plenty yet.

From the top tier I'd love Muller or Bale but hard to see it happening.
 
Gol123 said:
Aubameyang has 24 in 22 this season and had 25 in 46 last season. In fact, he is 7 goals off Kanes only top scoring season (31 in 51) and it is only November. He is the top scorer in the whole of Europe right now. He is clearly a level above Kane.
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26 in 23 now or to put it in different numbers he scores a goal every 75 minutes on average. He of course profits of our extremely productive midfield in terms of chance creation, but it still puts him on a comfortable higher level than Kane, although Auba is certainly closer to his personal ceiling thant Kane is.

I would be pretty worried if he would be still be on his old contract (until 2018) but with his new one until 2020, he has become the player who is the hardest to get. Given the overheated state of the striker market it would take an astronomical fee for Dortmund to give him up, probably in the tripple digits (Euro).
 
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