[Redlyn]

That's my point. We have created near to 20 chances. It is the strikers' fault they aren't even on target. If there was 1 chance created you'd put it down to tactics.



I guess he is at fault for putting faith in youth as well.



Sure some other games have been boring, but if you choose to ignore those that actually aren't boring or class then as outliers then you are always going to be blaming LVG for something.

I take it you are happy then? Everything is awesome?

 

[mitchmouse]

Of course van Gaal is to blame. He's got rid of Hernandez, RVP, Wilson and Welbeck and given us a team that can't hit a f*ucking barn door.

He and Moyes wrecked Hernandez's game. Goes from being a natural goal-scorer to looking lost. LVG could nullify Ole-G and RvN!

 

[ken11]

LVG is probably a shit man-manager. Ran off so many quality players we could've had this season.

RVP, Chicharito, Rafael, Victor Valdes, etc.

 

[snk123]

oh and even Swansea have managed to stop Vardy scoring, which we didn't do last week

And allowed Mahrez to score 3? What sort of a dumb dig is this?

 

[slir32]

It is very hard to choose man of the match lately.

 

[The United Irishman]

Think everyone is losing their shit now? Just wait until Liverpool go ahead of us and start challenging for the title, you will see some serious meltdowns in here then!

 

[BringNaniBack]

Crap result, but promising last twenty minutes or so. We actually looked dangerous for once even if we couldn't finish off any of the chances created. Depay did well when he came on. It may be time to give him a chance from the start of the next game. He can hardly do any worse than some of the other players out there.

I agree with this. Everyone else seems to think that our attack was the worst its ever been. It was clearly better than in recent weeks and I dont know how other people cant see that.

 

[Cantonaaa!]

Wonder what Ferguson thought of the game. Not very impressed I would think.
Can't even score on West Ham at home.

 

[NJM78]

If we dick about in possession during stoppage time I'll throw myself out of the window.

I hope your window was on the ground floor.

 

[minoo-utd]

LVG out. Seriously he won't add anything new he is fecking clueless. He has to go.

 

[SqueakyWeasel]

That last 20 mins could have used a chicharito.

He's too busy tucking the goals away winning Bundesliga player of the month in Germany!

 

[Bruno8]

Ben Wills ‏@_BenWills
Arsenal 0-2 West Ham Liverpool 0-3 West Ham West Ham 2-1 Chelsea Manchester City 1-2 West Ham Manchester United 0-0 West Ham. Quality.

 

[Walters_19_MuFc]

We need to start turning these draws into wins, because this is getting ridiculous now. Another chance to capitalise on City's defeat and go above Arsenal, but we continue to mess it up.

We had chances today. Fellaini, Martial and Lingard should be scoring, especially in such a tight game. Even Mata's and Schweinstieger's were half chances.

 

[SinghofSteel]

Spurs and Liverpool gaining ground on us now, but they have momentum with them... Top 4 is by no means guaranteed

 

[pauldyson1uk]

We fighting for 4th.

I think you being optimistic, they way we are playing is OK but not being able to score is a real problem, if it carries on we will be fighting just for a place in the Europa Cup.

 

[mitchmouse]

I'd like to know how many of those backing LVG and calling those of us who are disillusioned "dumb" and less complimentary things, how many were also backing Moyes at this stage of his season in charge

 

[Amar__]

Nobody is forcing you to watch. Or post.

Nobody is forcing you to read either.

 

[Inigo Montoya]

He and Moyes wrecked Hernandez's game. Goes from being a natural goal-scorer to looking lost. LVG could nullify Ole-G and RvN!

He has certainly found himself at Leverkusen

 

[Walters_19_MuFc]

He's too busy tucking the goals away winning Bundesliga player of the month in Germany!

It's normal to miss players when they have gone. Said the same for RVP. But lets be honest, when Hernandez was here, he wasn't doing much.

 

[Rednotdead]

I agree with this. Everyone else seems to think that our attack was the worst its ever been. It was clearly better than in recent weeks and I dont know how other people cant see that.

Er...............the purpose of an attack is precisely what? Surely not scoring goals! It matters not a toss how well they play if they don't score.

 

[mitchmouse]

Ben Wills ‏@_BenWills
Arsenal 0-2 West Ham Liverpool 0-3 West Ham West Ham 2-1 Chelsea Manchester City 1-2 West Ham Manchester United 0-0 West Ham. Quality.

great chance to close the gap missed (again)

 

[prath92]

LVG is probably a shit man-manager. Ran off so many quality players we could've had this season.

RVP, Chicharito, Rafael, Victor Valdes, etc.

 

[DevilRed]

We need to start turning these draws into wins, because this is getting ridiculous now. Another chance to capitalise on City's defeat and go above Arsenal, but we continue to mess it up.

We had chances today. Fellaini, Martial and Lingard should be scoring, especially in such a tight game. Even Mata's and Schweinstieger's were half chances.

Lets be realistic though. We aren't title contenders. Not this season. Not the way our attack looks. Unless by some minor miracle. We will fall away come February and March with this type of attack.

I would be happy with 3rd place and knockout stage of CL. Maybe the FA Cup would be nice.

 

[redshaw]

Our title opposition slip up and we can't even force a goal knowing the result. Today and last week at Leicester are such wasted opportunities.

If we're to do well this year then it's going to like pulling teeth and banking on the other teams to drop points. Even Liverpool look like trouble for us now.

 

[mitchmouse]

He's too busy tucking the goals away winning Bundesliga player of the month in Germany!

certainly not LVG's type of player then

 

[R'hllor]

People mentioning RvP,freaking Welbeck etc. as reason why we didnt score . Golden fish would be proud,dear Lord...

Still no "LvG out" thread,dunno what they waiting for.

 

[RedPnutz]

I take it you are happy then? Everything is awesome?

Of course not. What is narrow-mind and stupid comment.

In many other threads I have stated we have become way too boring to watch in many matches. But this is not one of those.

Just because I am not a negative drama queens like the many posters in this thread does not mean I think all is well and happy.

 

[Rooney in Paris]

Ben Wills ‏@_BenWills
Arsenal 0-2 West Ham Liverpool 0-3 West Ham West Ham 2-1 Chelsea Manchester City 1-2 West Ham Manchester United 0-0 West Ham. Quality.

Yep they've been great against the big boys, especially away from home. People are losing their shit slightly...

 

[mitchmouse]

Lets be realistic though. We aren't title contenders. Not this season. Not the way our attack looks. Unless by some minor miracle. We will fall away come February and March with this type of attack.

I would be happy with 3rd place and knockout stage of CL. Maybe the FA Cup would be nice.

FA Cup? well only if we don't draw 0-0 with Stevenage or Salford!!

 

[R'hllor]

He's too busy tucking the goals away winning Bundesliga player of the month in Germany!

Yea and if he was with us,he would do the same,copy paste,its that simple...

 

[mitchmouse]

Of course not. What is narrow-mind and stupid comment.

In many other threads I have stated we have become way too boring to watch in many matches. But this is not one of those.

Just because I am not a negative drama queens like the many posters in this thread does not mean I think all is well and happy.

but you don't call for change....

 

[SqueakyWeasel]

I think you being optimistic, they way we are playing is OK but not being able to score is a real problem, if it carries on we will be fighting just for a place in the Europa Cup.

So basically, if Spurs and 'Pool gain a bit more ground, we'll be in Moyes country after twice as much time as he was given and spending a a huge wadge more money!

 

[Walters_19_MuFc]

Lets be realistic though. We aren't title contenders. Not this season. Not the way our attack looks. Unless by some minor miracle. We will fall away come February and March with this type of attack.

I would be happy with 3rd place and knockout stage of CL. Maybe the FA Cup would be nice.

We were scoring goals for fun at the back end of last season, with the system we played. If Van Gaal wasn't so stubborn, he'd go back to that, because something clearly isn't working, and although we might not have the best attack in the world, we've got good enough players to be scoring against the likes of West Ham, Palace, etc.

 

[mitchmouse]

Yea and if he was with us,he would do the same,copy paste,its that simple...

he was possibly the most natural goal-scorer we've had since Ole-G. Moyes and LVG ruined him. That's the point being made.

 

[Anustart89]

I hope your window was on the ground floor.

It was! I'm fine!

 

[Verminator]

There are plenty of things to have a go at LVG for, but strikers missing the target and players unable to score from 2 yards, is a bit of a stretch

We were lucky at the other end in the first half too.

 

[SinghofSteel]

I'm convinced it's not the squad. Yes our attacking quality is not the best, but it is definitely better than 5 blanks in 9.

It's the style of play for me

 

[ken11]

 

[NJM78]

It was! I'm fine!

 

[mitchmouse]

I'm convinced it's not the squad. Yes our attacking quality is not the best, but it is definitely better than 5 blanks in 9.

It's the style of play for me

Absolutely

 

[marlowe78]

AFAIC our goalscoring problem is due to lack of movement, not who is playing or where they are playing. Rooney I admit has been poor but today should explode the myth that 'he' was holding us back.

LVG believes in letting the ball come to the player rather than the player attacking the ball. We can clearly see players, especially our midfielders, doing this and it's ridiculous because you've literally stopped to receive the pass instead of keeping our momentum up the pitch. Memphis, Lingard, and Martial, who have the roles of 'creative' players, are allowed to take passes while on the move but by the time the ball goes to them, all of the defenders have gotten into position. Which is why we are trying to pass through 10 men and we're so reliant on crossing, which West Ham can defend against all day long.

It will not matter which strikers we have on the roster to play. Martial, Rooney, Fellaini, Wilson, RVP, Hernandez, they will ALL experience lack of service if we keep playing such a slow game.

Outside of that, McNair and Blind were awful today and I was not impressed with Varela at all, who I thought was ready to be exposed big time on the right. I am thoroughly fed up with Mata and want him sold. Fellaini had a decent first half but did very little in the 2nd.

As for Tuesday, I hope we win but if we go out I really don't care because we're nowhere near ready for the bigger European clubs yet. The PL is RIGHT THERE to be taken and we can't score a fecking goal.