LVG Out Thread | BBC: Sacked!

[mariachi-19]

I agree. Rooney and Mata destroyed our attacking creativity and frustrated the crap out of talented strikers. Fellaini should have stayed at Everton.
The problem with LVG was that when he brought in Di Maria and Falcao he should have gotten rid of Rooney and Mata. He could have then had the money to buy a gifted attacking midfielder and also if I were him I would have given Nani a final chance.

I think Mata still has alot to offer for us, but he needs stronger players around him. They were also never going to get rid of him after 5 months.

 

[Maajid]

If Giggs is appointed the interim manager, I foresee events that would make a summer documentary called "Waiting for Guardiola" an inevitability.

 

[markhrad]

I think Mata still has alot to offer for us, but he needs stronger players around him. They were also never going to get rid of him after 5 months.

That is true but I think Mata is a hindrance. He is technically sound and once or twice a game may make a good pass but he seems more interested in getting into the box himself rather than take part in creative attacking play. LVG after giving him a chance, in keeping with his philosophy, should have benched Mata.
Poor RVP and Falcao waved their arms off trying to get a pass from him and Rooney only to see a side or back pass.
Anyway I really do not see much success in our future regardless of who is the manager. If we now bench both Rooney and Mata who will replace them in our squad?
I think this our weakest team in the history of the premiership.

 

[hobbers]

Rooney, Mata and Fellaini are, by far, our weakest attacking players and yet they're almost always out on the pitch every freaking game.

They all have to be edged out of the side for the sake of playing any sort of vibrant or remotely functional football, but Rooney is actually the best of the three so move him out last.

 

[Tosicsleftpeg]

I think this our weakest team in the history of the premiership.

Nowhere near it.

 

[devilish]

Rumours say that there are 4 players who are planning for LVG's dismissal. Rooney and Fellaini seem to be the ring leaders. They will lure LVG to the pitch with the excuse that they have news about LVG's Uncle Benjen only to stab him at the back.

 

[Sad Chris]

People rarely try and do a bad job, he certainly hasn't. So criticise his tactics or whatever but I think he's a good guy and one of the great managers, show a bit of respect.

Ok Mum.

 

[Cooksen]

Rumours say that there are 4 players who are planning for LVG's dismissal. Rooney and Fellaini seem to be the ring leaders. They will lure LVG to the pitch with the excuse that they have news about LVG's Uncle Benjen only to stab him at the back.

So does that Mean that Juan mata is olly?

 

[Sad Chris]

If we lose, why put someone through that? He has been a great manager in the past. I would hate it if we had treat SAF with that sort of disrespect.

Respect aside just focusing on the business, maybe it's a financial move? He quits and we owe him nothing. We sack him and need to pay amount x in compensation.
How much money are 3 points worth at Manchester United Business Club?

 

[Esquire]

What happens if we beat Chelsea? Keep him on? There's no point dragging our heels over this.

Afraid that's exactly what's going to happen if we beat Chelsea. But honestly, not worried because there is no way that's going to happen on present evidence. All the reasons for keeping LVG on have become frankly inane and stale. Needs to be put out of his misery and some of the disgraceful players will stay on until the summer until we can replace them properly. What a mess we are in. So worried we are becoming Liverpool.

 

[Esquire]

I agree with that. They have lost all belief in their own ability. It is awful. Except Memphis who seems to have a confidence that belies his ability.

I would say, judging from the past few games especially yesterday, Depay's arrogance has been brought down a notch too.

 

[Sunny Jim]

Afraid that's exactly what's going to happen if we beat Chelsea. But honestly, not worried because there is no way that's going to happen on present evidence. All the reasons for keeping LVG on have become frankly inane and stale. Needs to be put out of his misery and some of the disgraceful players will stay on until the summer until we can replace them properly. What a mess we are in. So worried we are becoming Liverpool.

We will not beat Chelase though.

 

[Sammyjunn]

Lvg is just as shit, he has really hypnotized you lot worh the philosophy and possession football. The talk around it, might have been interesting. But he's failed to even partially implement that style. When we play possession football, we cant score. When we play attacking football, we barely score but we then concede. In 18 months the football is still poor and he hasnt been able to find any sort of balance. He talked some good/interesting things, but hasnt executes them. So what exactly are the good things he has done? Fair enough that he had his plan/process, but it completely failed and therefore, was shit.

 

[RoadTrip]

We will not beat Chelase though.

Interesting name!

 

[togg]

I very much doubt United will sack LVG before the Chelsea game.

 

[C'est Moi Cantona]

Respect aside just focusing on the business, maybe it's a financial move? He quits and we owe him nothing. We sack him and need to pay amount x in compensation.
How much money are 3 points worth at Manchester United Business Club?

Does seem like this is the case to me, what would we owe £9 million + maybe £3-4 million to the backup staff? surely it'd be better just to take this off the the transfer budget and get it done, or offer him less for a dignified (mutual) exit.

The club must now be quaking in their boots about top 4, and if the players really aren't playing for him then the Chelsea game will only go one way, can we really afford to lose another.

That games could be horrendous, the crowd will be extremely flat, if we get battered the atmosphere could turn toxic, and even if we scrape a win will anyone really be that happy? as it'll probably give LvG a stay of execution and the whole process will be repeated again, just a horrible way to go into a game.

 

[Sunny Jim]

I very much doubt United will sack LVG before the Chelsea game.

same here

 

[acrebo]

Lvg is just as shit, he has really hypnotized you lot worh the philosophy and possession football.... So what exactly are the good things he has done?

Eh? You realise what this thread is discussing, don't you?

 

[foolsgold]

Assuming getting fired is better financially for him than quitting, I can understand why he's hanging in.

His pride must be destroying him, the club needs to either fire him or very publicly back him and give him money in the transfer window.

Leaving it apparently dangling is undignified all round

 

[TakeMeHome]

Looks like we will give Chelsea 3 points before the muppets running our club decide to get rid of him

 

[JPRouve]

I don't see a sacking between two games only separated by 48 hours.

 

[RoadTrip]

I don't see a sacking between two games only separated by 48 hours.

The way our board runs this club I'd be surprised if we would see a sacking if we had two games separated by "only" 48 days.

 

[LeftyBlaster]

The way our board runs this club I'd be surprised if we would see a sacking if we had two games separated by "only" 48 days.

I really take issue with that. Woodward and gang seem to be content to let us continue in free fall for even one more game before taking action? Why are we even dawdling?

 

[MrSingh2002]

If LVG isnt sacked after the Chelsea game I want Woodward sacked. He can have a commercial role but shouldn't be anywhere near a football decision.

 

[Jerch]

We should sack him after Norwich game if not sooner.

I also can't see him being sacked before Chelsea game and the real question is what if we win against Chelsea, do we sack him regardless or do we keep him?

 

[Tosicsleftpeg]

We look totally lost at the moment in every sense of the word.

 

[RoadTrip]

I really take issue with that. Woodward and gang seem to be content to let us continue in free fall for even one more game before taking action? Why are we even dawdling?

In fairness I can understand not sacking him today, 48 hours is incredibly tight.

What I don't get is why he wasn't sacked before Stoke.

 

[Member 5225]

Am genuinely shocked he has t been sacked yet or hasn't walked.

Everyone keeps going on about the Chelski game, but what the feck does that change?

Even if we somehow fluke a win, does the board thing he'll defo turn it around now, does he believe that, do the fans?

And if we (inevitably) lose or draw, he'll probably get sacked and fans and journos will chuckle and think/say 'err what did you think was gonna happen in the game?!'

Am baffled - not a very cut-throat way of doing business!

 

[All 3 United]

Apparently LVG will resign if we don't get a 'positive' result against Chelsea. I assume 'positive' to LVG includes a 0-0. Now while there is little doubt we're playing badly, Chelsea have managed a win against Sunderland and could only draw at home to Watford yesterday. So there is a chance we could get something out of the game (especially at home). Do we then just continue with LVG, while Mourinho returns to Madrid? Pep signs with City and Simeone goes to Chelsea.

This is getting beyond a joke, the board need to sack him now, it's already massively overdue or we could be going into next season with the aforementioned in place and us with Giggs at the helm!

 

[ZupZup]

I suspect he will be in charge for the Chelsea game but gone before the new year regardless of tomorrow's result.

 

[Man-United]

United will always leave it late after having a manager for 26 years without changing. Moyes almost had a whole season with us, he would have been out in december at any other club. Same with LvG, we leave it too late again and if we miss out on top 4 by a few points it would be tragic.

 

[2 man midfield]

Kept checking the caf last night for any sort of update, and again this morning. Nothing.

Let me guess, when the NY stock exchange opens, right?

 

[NK86]

Kept checking the caf last night for any sort of update, and again this morning. Nothing.

Let me guess, when the NY stock exchange opens, right?

Does it even open on a Sunday?

 

[esmufc07]

I'm sure there is plenty of action going on behind the scenes. They're hardly going to call him and sack him over the phone while he's in Stoke

IIRC Woodward got a lot of criticism for the way Moyes' sacking was handled. Perhaps he doesn't want a repeat.

 

[ivaldo]

Kept checking the caf last night for any sort of update, and again this morning. Nothing.

Let me guess, when the NY stock exchange opens, right?

Wrong.

 

[Sunny Jim]

the silence on twitter is interesting

 

[JPRouve]

I really take issue with that. Woodward and gang seem to be content to let us continue in free fall for even one more game before taking action? Why are we even dawdling?

I suspect that Giggs isn't an option, otherwise he would have been given the job for one or two games. From that I will say that Guardiola isn't an option either and the board tries to convince himself that Mourinho isn't an awful appointment after all.

 

[Kill 'em all]

Don't think he'll make it after the Chelsea game, Jose being available should be putting a lot of pressure to replace LVG considering the current results.

 

[Mister_Stubbs]

This is a farce from both club and LVG. The Norwich result/performance should have signaled the end. Yesterdays result/performance could have been avoided, instead it was the same old thing. What are we waiting for? A beating at home to a side who are in more trouble than what we are? I don't understand what the decision makers are waiting for, things aren't going to get better. LVG isn't suddenly going to change he's methods that have served him well over he's career. We are in a rut, a downward spiral... the only way to get out of such a thing is to make a change and bring someone new in with fresh ideas. The longer we leave it, the further down the league we will fall.

 

[LeftyBlaster]

In fairness I can understand not sacking him today, 48 hours is incredibly tight.

What I don't get is why he wasn't sacked before Stoke.

Fair enough! But I do agree that giving him Stoke and Chelsea is madness. The board and Woodward ought to be questioned for their decision making, especially if we hand Giggs the reins on a permanent basis.