Alleged Sex scandal involving Spanish players | No Evidence | Stop Guessing Names

[InfiniteBoredom]

I think the most likely scenario is that he hired the prosti for his friend, the girl arrived, refused to engage in a threesome and was raped. Now, if he knew about it afterwards and didn't report it or tried to cover it up then he should be punished, but otherwise if protistution is legal in Spain and he didn't know, I don't think he did anything wrong.

Let's let the process play out before jumping to conclusion.

 

[Cina]

I think the most likely scenario is that he hired the prosti for his friend, the girl arrived, refused to engage in a threesome and was raped. Now, if he knew about it afterwards and didn't report it or tried to cover it up then he should be punished, but otherwise if protistution is legal in Spain and he didn't know, I don't think he did anything wrong.

Let's let the process play out before jumping to conclusion.

 

[Hammerfell]

have you even read the articles/tweets you mentalist?

This thread is mental.

 

[100]

My hopes lie with the idea that nobody can be this fecking stupid...can they?

 

[alsabi]

But if we're all not the same, then doesn't that mean we are the same, because we're not the same?

'You're all individuals!'
'Yes, we're all individuals!'
'You're all different!'
'Yes, we are all different!'
'I'm not.'

 

[villain]

Ouch my brain hurts

 

[hobbers]

Also, wasn't the age of consent 13 in Spain until last year?

Are we talking even younger than that?

 

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[dannyrhinos89]

Dave comes across as such a nice guy....I have my doubts tbh I'm not going to chuck him to the dogs just yet.

See what comes of this

 

[InfiniteBoredom]

Well, no one said we couldn't speculate....

 

[villain]

'You're all individuals!'
'Yes, we're all individuals!'
'You're all different!'
'Yes, we are all different!'
'I'm not.'

Haven't seen that movie in years!

 

[Vato]

Navas would have saved them.

 

[Bastian]

I'd imagine "Don't do that stuff. It's bad." should suffice.

Yeah, I think it needs something a lot more than that. Young footballers earning loads and enjoying their status in the gossip media aren't in the fertile ground of common sense.

 

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[Hammerfell]

Well, no one said we couldn't speculate....

Common sense should tell you that, Shirley?

 

[Arruda]

Navas would have saved them.

 

[caisenma]

agree with this. where i am from there was a documentary on this recently. pimps were forcing women to have sex with 8/9/10 guys a day. thats consent with threats which isnt really consent. stick to the independent girls if thats your thing. may have to pay a bit more but you will sleep better at night

or, you know... just jerk off at home, and the leave the prostitute thing alone altogether.

 

[Hed Zitin]

have you even read the articles/tweets you mentalist?

The mods have a proper headache today.

 

[DWelbz19]

If hes involved I hope hes jailed and theres guys there that will kick the shit out of him everyday. Underage sex is disgusting and he should never play football again. I just hope its a made up story trying to blackmail him and it gets sorted out.

Jesus Christ.

 

[JustAFan]

Right now so many versions of events going around, will have to wait and see what the reality in terms of what he is actually being accused of. Reading one report saying he is facing a "criminal misdemeanor" charge in Spain. What exactly does that entail in general (since we don't know all the specifics of this exact case). Fines? Prison?

 

[JPRouve]

Navas would have saved them.

A real belgian.

 

[Garethw]

This is the kind of story that makes me feel sick to my stomach.

The trouble is, when the accused are millionaires, many cases like this get "settled" out of court, so the truth may never see the light of day.

 

[RU Devil]

Just delete this post and try and forget you spent time writing it out.

What the feck is wrong with you?

Don't know what your issues are with what I typed. I'm not saying what is alleged is "all good", but at least get all the facts straight before crucifying the screwball. A lot of damage occurs before we get the real story. See Duke Lacrosse Rape Case, Columbia Mattress Girl, Rolling Stone/Jackie Rape Case. All false accusations that ruined lives and got some folks expelled from school or unjustly censured.

And you'd have to be naive to not realize that some of what the rich & famous do is on the edge of legality or decorum. They just are rich enough to get away with it or smart enough to have someone who can fix things. Some of you cliffjumpers want to ditch DDG before you get the whole story (which is already garbled with the translations & various versions). I guess some of you would jettison the alleged 5 Man United players as well.

 

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[JohnnyKills]

This part it is said there is no evidence of I believe, lets see what happens

Well the Marca report (hardly gospel I know) claims there's no evidence the 'encounter' actually took place. That's different from saying there's no evidence he asked her for the orgy.

Still, it's nothing new I guess- we've seen the 'roasting' claims made against Newcastle players, the Leicester orgy at the start of the season etc. I'm in no way condoning what DDG's done if he's found guilty, just seems footballers often get involved in this kind of thing.

 

[Arruda]

Whatever happens De Gea's Euros probably just became a lot more challenging. There are plenty of people in Marca saying that even with the assumption of innocence he shouldn't play due to "concentration" issues.

If he does play, and does a minor feck up in a game, he'll probably face huge backlash, along with the manager. If Del Bosque thinks like this, he might want to play it safe and go for Casillas.

 

[InfiniteBoredom]

Common sense should tell you that, Shirley?

It's not like there hasn't been loads of interpretations in this thread.

I'm not saying that's the case, but it's my guess base on what's been reported. But I'm open to all findings, and if David did something wrong then he should be severely punished, even to our detriment.

 

[bonsaiboy]

This is all a bit strange. I can understand that some things might come out during a court case that the police were not already aware of, but surely in their own victim interviews the involvement of these players would have been mentioned. In which case, I would fully expect that if the police felt they had enough evidence to charge said players, they would have done so prior to the trial. Generally speaking, when you have evidence of something against someone you wouldn't want to tip them off that you know, especially if they are rich enough to afford the best lawyers. You're effectively giving them time to build their own defence and to get their stories straight.

If it turns out that these allegations are true, and DgG is charged with and convicted of a crime, he should be unceremoniously booted out of the club, no matter how good he is. But until that happens, all we have is hearsay.

 

[sammyvine]

I won't be surprised if he did it

Because he is rich like many athletes in the past, he will get away Scott free

 

[DomesticTadpole]

I'm not sure the claims make sense to me. A lady is claiming that she was telephoned to go to to a hotel, under the promise of making lots of money for sexual activity with some football players, which she then went along with, all against her will?

It basically sounds like an escort, who was paid, is alleging the intercourse was rape? Unless it is hush money, doesn't the money indicate some sort of contract?

I may just be slow, but how does a rape victim get paid for the sex? Or did she not take the money?. I've just read the tweets by the way so this may be explained in the thread.

Didn't Leicester have problem with some of their players getting accused of rape a good while back, when it was a hooker who didn't get paid and went to the press with rape accusations. Not the Nigel Pearson's sons thing, further back than that.

 

[sullydnl]

This is the kind of story that makes me feel sick to my stomach.

The trouble is, when the accused are millionaires, many cases like this get "settled" out of court, so the truth may never see the light of day.

This is being brought up in relation to the prosecution of the porn producer they were in contact with. The footballers settling out of court isn't really an option.

 

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[Siorac]

Whatever happens De Gea's Euros probably just became a lot more challenging. There are plenty of people in Marca saying that even with the assumption of innocence he shouldn't play due to "concentration" issues.

If he does play, and does a minor feck up in a game, he'll probably face huge backlash. If Del Bosque thinks like this, he might want to play it safe and go for Casillas.

With how much Casillas deteriorated at Madrid it's hard to think of him as a safe option. Though I admit I have no idea how he's been doing since he left.

 

[Cassidy]

Whatever happens De Gea's Euros probably just became a lot more challenging. There are plenty of people in Marca saying that even with the assumption of innocence he shouldn't play due to "concentration" issues.

If he does play, and does a minor feck up in a game, he'll probably face huge backlash, along with the manager. If Del Bosque thinks like this, he might want to play it safe and go for Casillas.

He was always going to go with Casillas

 

[Shane88]

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He'll deny the allegations and help the authorities with their inquiries.

Nothing more than that.

 

[Arruda]

He was always going to go with Casillas

Are we sure of that? Haven't followed Spain tbh, but from I read around here I thought that was under intense debate.

Casillas has been poor for Porto, in my opinion. Weird decision him still being number 1.

 

[DWelbz19]

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Didn't the other guy say De Gea is not going to give a conference, and Aduriz will speak instead, on behalf of teammate Muniain?

 

[Siorac]

He'll deny the allegations and help the authorities with their inquiries.

Nothing more than that.

But it would be exciting/unexpected if he actually confessed to be the leader of an international crime syndicate that exclusively deals in donuts or something.

 

[villain]

Don't know what your issues are with what I typed. I'm not saying what is alleged is "all good", but at least get all the facts straight before crucifying the screwball. A lot of damage occurs before we get the real story. See Duke Lacrosse Rape Case, Columbia Mattress Girl, Rolling Stone/Jackie Rape Case. All false accusations that ruined lives and got some folks expelled from school or unjustly censured.

And you'd have to be naive to not realize that some of what the rich & famous do is on the edge of legality or decorum. They just are rich enough to get away with it or smart enough to have someone who can fix things. Some of you cliffjumpers want to ditch DDG before you get the whole story (which is already garbled with the translations & various versions). I guess some of you would jettison the alleged 5 Man United players as well.

While I agree with the premise that we shouldn't judge an individuals character before we know the full facts of the story.

The overwhelming percentage of rape & sexual assault cases (I think its 80-90% range but i'd have to check) don't even get reported to the police, and of those that do, again another small percentage are convicted.
So I'm not sure what the purpose of listing a handful of cases is, in relation to the thousands of cases we don't even get to hear about due to the stigma of sexual assaults.

 

[MDFC Manager]

Muniain will probably wish his trial gets shifted to an American court