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What a load of crap. On top of speculation that DDG & Iker are in a battle to be Spain's #1, this pops up. Can we say Real Madrid? St Iker being one of their idols & DDG publicly spurning their advances, this smells of a smear campaign from the top.
What the feck is wrong with you?
 

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We are plenty, but women don't like the nice guys.
That's false also. Women like guys who are straight forward with their feelings and intentions.

Being a nice guy for the purpose of getting with a girl, doesn't make you a nice guy.
Equally, being a nice guy and not telling a girl how you feel, won't allow her to see you as anything other than a friend.
 

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It also claims he subsequently tried to persuade the girl to have an orgy with him and five other United players.

A separate witness claims she was drugged and raped by Torbe and the videos were going to be sent to DDG and other players.

It doesn't look good.
This part it is said there is no evidence of I believe, lets see what happens
 

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That's what you get when Rooney and Giggs are the most influential figures in the dressing room :wenger:

Well, the main positive is that he isn't a rapist - at least. I don't see anything wrong with prostitution to be fair, I believe that the men and women should be allowed to do with their body what they want, so I'm not too disappointed in him for arranging this meeting - although it's a strange thing to do and I didn't think that it was in his character to do so. He still broke the law though.

But if he tried to cover up the rape with Muniain and Isco, he should be punished, no two ways about it.

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There's everything wrong with prostitution if the women, or girls don't want to be prostitutes.
 

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No idea what has gone on here, I shamefully have to confess that the first thing that occurred to me was that perhaps he will break up with his Spanish girlfriend and settle down with a nice English girl and stay with us until he is 40.
 

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I'm not sure the claims make sense to me. A lady is claiming that she was telephoned to go to to a hotel, under the promise of making lots of money for sexual activity with some football players, which she then went along with, all against her will?

It basically sounds like an escort, who was paid, is alleging the intercourse was rape? Unless it is hush money, doesn't the money indicate some sort of contract?

I may just be slow, but how does a rape victim get paid for the sex? Or did she not take the money?. I've just read the tweets by the way so this may be explained in the thread.
 

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If this is true and he was involved in anyway he should be given severe punishment. No place for this kind of thing. However, David doesn't strike me as the type to do this so it will be interesting how it pans out.
 

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I think using a prostitute through a pimp should be a major no-no, the vast majority of time they are being exploited in some kind of way, when not outright slaves.

People into that sort of stuff should look for independent prostitutes who are in it because they want.
 

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I don't see what De Gea did particularly wrong, if he knew Torbe and a couple of his footballer mates. It's not as if he was pimping her himself. Besides, maybe I'm being naive but for players not knowingly paying money and to use any sort of intimidation would be extremely stupid. At worst they've had sex with her and that was that, as far as the footballers were concerned. I bet they had no idea Torbe was some sort of human trafficking, porno pimp and that he'd exploit her, while keeping the money all to himself.
Well , actually Torbe doesn´t seem the best person in the world , but in 2012 they were 19 or 20 years. Torbe said "teta" and they gave 500/1000 euros without thinking or something like that. They forced her but went voluntarily to the hotel knowing there were football players ?
All this looks very ugly because the things that Torbe did appear in the same sentence as the players.
By the way AS remembered now a photo of Muniain and Martínez in 2012 (in the under 21 too) with a couple of porn actress.
http://futbol.as.com/futbol/2016/06/10/seleccion/1465565042_607227.html
 

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I somehow find it both hard to believe and not surprising at all.
What a weird mix of feelings...
Same feelings. Hard to believe because it is De Gea, but not surprising because this is the celebrity world. I imagine these encounters occur a lot more often than we would like to think. It's funny, this sort of thing disgusts the common folk. But for those well heeled; this is just standard practice. Italy's Berlusconi, the IMF's Strauss-Khan, America's Jeffrey Epstein, England's Jimmy Saville and Leon Brittan all spring to mind. All accused of rape (in some cases child rape) yet all evaded charges. Unfortunately for footballers, they do not have the political influence of their masters, and someone has to take the fall for activities everyone knows takes place. This makes it look like the establishment actually give a toss.
 

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It also claims he subsequently tried to persuade the girl to have an orgy with him and five other United players.

A separate witness claims she was drugged and raped by Torbe and the videos were going to be sent to DDG and other players.

It doesn't look good.
So basically there is a witness claiming that De Gea at the least knowingly knew that the girl/girls were abused by Torbe?

Yeah that doesn't sound good if true.

But surely the prosecution would have known of this way before the trail?

Has a trail with that Torbe person started yet? If it has and all of the players did something incriminating, shouldn't have they been arrested?

Or has a witness just came with the allegations today?
 

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IF he was not in the room, then it's unlikely he knew whether or not it was a rape, right?
Who knows? Depends on what he was told afterwards.

I would imagine this is the sort of situation where a proper look through their text messages would tell us a lot. Both in terms of what the players said to each other and what De Gea said to this producer guy.
 

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That's what you get when Rooney and Giggs are the most influential figures in the dressing room :wenger:

Well, the main positive is that he isn't a rapist - at least. I don't see anything wrong with prostitution to be fair, I believe that the men and women should be allowed to do with their body what they want, so I'm not too disappointed in him for arranging this meeting - although it's a strange thing to do and I didn't think that it was in his character to do so. He still broke the law though.

But if he tried to cover up the rape with Muniain and Isco, he should be punished, no two ways about it.

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It's a bit more serious than just prostitution. At least from what is claimed - underage girls, extortion, against their will, etc. Even if it's only DDG setting it all up he'd be an accomplice to it.

If it is only prostitution it's even legal in some countries, alas not the case here.
 

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feck. If true then there's no defending it. Absolutely not.

Is there no protocol in place at clubs to educate youngsters on sexual/physical/emotional abuse and violation?
You'd hope, this sort of thing is taught at a young age to everyone, regardless of career.

More certainly needs to be done though.
 

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Gotta wonder if Real's statement in Marca about de Gea was due to them being informed of this (highly likely I would say).
 

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That's false also. Women like guys who are straight forward with their feelings and intentions.

Being a nice guy for the purpose of getting with a girl, doesn't make you a nice guy.
Equally, being a nice guy and not telling a girl how you feel, won't allow her to see you as anything other than a friend.
I was jesting, milady.:)
 

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So the Sun fell for tweet about DDG being sent home the Euro's from a fake twitter account of their own newspaper?... :lol:
 

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Well, at least we don't have worry about the media using all of the vile charges in the Torbe case being used in headlines with DDG to mislead the public and ruin his name.
 

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That's false also. Women like guys who are straight forward with their feelings and intentions.

Being a nice guy for the purpose of getting with a girl, doesn't make you a nice guy.
Equally, being a nice guy and not telling a girl how you feel, won't allow her to see you as anything other than a friend.
Not all women are the same, just like not all men are the same ;)
 

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I think using a prostitute through a pimp should be a major no-no, the vast majority of time they are being exploited in some kind of way, when not outright slaves.

People into that sort of stuff should look for independent prostitutes who are in it because they want.
I totally agree, I don't really understand the appeal but at the very least don't put money into the hands of a pimp.
 

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send all those sick, abusive bastards to jail
 

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If hes involved I hope hes jailed and theres guys there that will kick the shit out of him everyday. Underage sex is disgusting and he should never play football again. I just hope its a made up story trying to blackmail him and it gets sorted out.
 

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Well , actually Torbe doesn´t seem the best person in the world , but in 2012 they were 19 or 20 years. Torbe said "teta" and they gave 500/1000 euros without thinking or something like that. They forced her but went voluntarily to the hotel knowing there were football players ?
All this looks very ugly because the things that Torbe did appear in the same sentence as the players.
By the way AS remembered now a photo of Muniain and Martínez in 2012 (in the under 21 too) with a couple of porn actress.
http://futbol.as.com/futbol/2016/06/10/seleccion/1465565042_607227.html

Yeah, it's all very murky at the minute. It is hopefully just a case of being guilty by association, regarding the footballers and Torbe. Although, if they're guilty of what they are being accused of - then they deserve the full force of the law.
 

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If hes involved I hope hes jailed and theres guys there that will kick the shit out of him everyday. Underage sex is disgusting and he should never play football again. I just hope its a made up story trying to blackmail him and it gets sorted out.
have you even read the articles/tweets you mentalist?
 

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So the Sun fell for tweet about DDG being sent home the Euro's from a fake twitter account of their own newspaper?... :lol:
And then Independent and DM also followed it up. E
English media.
 

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I think using a prostitute through a pimp should be a major no-no, the vast majority of time they are being exploited in some kind of way, when not outright slaves.

People into that sort of stuff should look for independent prostitutes who are in it because they want.

agree with this. where i am from there was a documentary on this recently. pimps were forcing women to have sex with 8/9/10 guys a day. thats consent with threats which isnt really consent. stick to the independent girls if thats your thing. may have to pay a bit more but you will sleep better at night
 

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I'm not sure the claims make sense to me. A lady is claiming that she was telephoned to go to to a hotel, under the promise of making lots of money for sexual activity with some football players, which she then went along with, all against her will?

It basically sounds like an escort, who was paid, is alleging the intercourse was rape? Unless it is hush money, doesn't the money indicate some sort of contract?

I may just be slow, but how does a rape victim get paid for the sex? Or did she not take the money?. I've just read the tweets by the way so this may be explained in the thread.
One the claims seems to be that she actually wasn't paid (the pimp arguably took all the money).

And I don't understand what's hard to imagine about a rape victim being paid for the sex. It's not like being raped by a customer and him paying are mutually exclusive.
 

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If hes involved I hope hes jailed and theres guys there that will kick the shit out of him everyday. Underage sex is disgusting and he should never play football again. I just hope its a made up story trying to blackmail him and it gets sorted out.
Who the feck said he had sex with anyone let alone underage sex
 

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Such high profile footballers would have plenty of women throwing themselves at them. Its a shame some of them dont have two brain cells and stay away from all this prostitution stuff, especially girls young enough that you'd question if they're even age of consent.

As for Dave, very disappointing that his name is in all this. More concrete facts about what actually happened needs to surface before passing judgement on this one