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I'm responsible for Ribery's petulance too or is that on Pep as well?
The last years in every final there were biased referees with totaly stupid decisions. Game changing decisions.
In the CL final:
After that the old referee Markus Merk said it was a red card. Even ex Buyern Player Kahn said it was clearly a red card.
Then the stolen goal in the cupfinal, we scored first, the ball was 1m behind the line, but no the referee say no.
Then the last cupfinal:
The referee is 1m aside and see it FFS, no red card, Riberys finger is in Castros eye!
Only 2 month later:
Ribery is getting no red card, but Ribery and Passlack a yellow one.. Yeah of course make sense ^^
Source: http://www.n-tv.de/sport/fussball/Ribery-hat-ein-Aggressionsproblem-article18421191.html
Iam so sick of it, its not even funny anymore!
Buyern is class in the league, i recognize. But in the last years there were dozens of false decisions everyone for Buyern, and often in finals! And they often were close to loose but then the referees helped, for example the game vs. Augsburg last season, where they get the most ridicoulus penalty ever some minutes before the end. And at the end of the season they were only some point ahead of us, would this have been the case with all the clearly false decisions referees made for them? The league is boring since years, and one of the reasons is: if someone comes close to beat them, the referees help.
I'm sure there's an Ombudsmann somewhere at the Ministry of the Interior you could write your complaints to.
Probably Pep as well. I mean a man who teaches players how to dive surely teaches them how to be petulant as well.
Come to think of it he is probably responsible for the IS as well.
No, unfortunately not.
Nothing is ever on Pep according to Pepism of course.
The second commandment of Pepism:
Thou shalt not find fault in the One Manager, your Lord.
Anyway, to turn to something slightly more worthy of our attention, did you guys see how AC Milan welcomed their new signing Sosa with a picture of him in a Bayern shirt from what must be 2008?
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Anyway, to turn to something slightly more worthy of our attention, did you guys see how AC Milan welcomed their new signing Sosa with a picture of him in a Bayern shirt from what must be 2008?
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WTF? That's a blast from the past!31 years old and still a talent waiting to break through, no doubt.
31 years old is a young prospect in Serie A tbf
Ribery has to have more emotional control, no doubt about it, but in the Passlack scene, Passlack's arm is in Ribery's face as well and afterwards it's an incredible acting job. Passlack is provoking him, he wants to get him sent off, knowing about his history, so I think two yellows is fine there.The last years in every final there were biased referees with totaly stupid decisions. Game changing decisions.
In the CL final:
After that the old referee Markus Merk said it was a red card. Even ex Buyern Player Kahn said it was clearly a red card.
Then the stolen goal in the cupfinal, we scored first, the ball was 1m behind the line, but no the referee say no.
Then the last cupfinal:
The referee is 1m aside and see it FFS, no red card, Riberys finger is in Castros eye!
Only 2 month later:
Ribery is getting no red card, but Ribery and Passlack a yellow one.. Yeah of course make sense ^^
Source: http://www.n-tv.de/sport/fussball/Ribery-hat-ein-Aggressionsproblem-article18421191.html
Iam so sick of it, its not even funny anymore!
Buyern is class in the league, i recognize. But in the last years there were dozens of false decisions everyone for Buyern, and often in finals! And they often were close to loose but then the referees helped, for example the game vs. Augsburg last season, where they get the most ridicoulus penalty ever some minutes before the end. And at the end of the season they were only some point ahead of us, would this have been the case with all the clearly false decisions referees made for them? The league is boring since years, and one of the reasons is: if someone comes close to beat them, the referees help.
Overall, it's ludicrous to claim Bayern wins Bundesluga titles due to such circumstances. They were by and far the most dominant and consistent team in the BL, that's why they won.
Like i said: They are class, no doubt. BUT there were dozens of biased referee decisions who leads to a win for Buyern even if they were close to loose. Dozens of times! The list is so long.. And often it was in finals, we were betrayed in all the last finals against them. In all (Iam talking about the CL final, 2 cupfinals, and the last supercup, not the league)! And thats not funny anymore. Everyone in Germany share this opinion except fans of Buyern. But no objektive person can ignore that it was like that.
But also in the league: we were only 5 points behind them. these 5 points alone they got from the most stupid decisions
where everybody was shaking there head about. The best example is this:
If they are close to loose points, the referees often helped them.
Man, the footbal world even got a name for this effect since years: Bayern-Dusel.
And btw: Passlack made nothing but getting on Riberys nerves cause he defended so well. He wasnt provoking him in no way, this young boy got more calmness than this 33 old experienced footballer called Ribery.
This stupid referee decisions PLUS the not punished Ribery actions PLUS the diving actions of Robben, Ribery and others = its enough FFS
I'm not going to get any deeper into this nonsense, but I'd add one important point:
Are there decisions going our way? Sure, the Augsburg one being a prominent example.
However, last season there were a number of legit penalties that we did not get, and I'd dare to bet that this number exceeds the ones we were gifted.
Now the thing is, those usually occur in games or at scorelines when we are, or end up, winning anyway, so nobody bothers to notice, register, or complain.
Think about that for a minute before you go ahead with those 'biased refereeing' claims.
Are there decisions going our way? Sure, the Augsburg one being a prominent example.
However, last season there were a number of legit penalties that we did not get, and I'd dare to bet that this number exceeds the ones we were gifted.
Now the thing is, those usually occur in games or at scorelines when we are, or end up, winning anyway, so nobody bothers to notice, register, or complain.
Think about that for a minute before you go ahead with those 'biased refereeing' claims.
You sure you would have won "anyway" if Ribery were send off the pitch in the CL final? You sure you would have won "anyway" if our goal in the cupfinal would have been seen? You really sure that you would have won the game against Augsburg some minutes before the end? Please....
And you are proud of the behavoiur of Ribery and the diving actions of Robben? Must be a good life as a Buyern fan...
I had asked you to think for a minute about my point before going ahead. Your reply gives me the feeling you haven't done that. Or maybe expecting you to process this in a minute was a bit steep to ask, I apologize.
Take a couple of hours, or couple of days, if you want, before you come back.
You cant deny that there were clearly false decisions in all the last finals and everyone of them was pro Bayern. And in the league also, where you could be right that its leveled at the end of the season (!). But after dozens of times where Ribery werent getting a red card, or a goal from us is not seen, or or or.. its enough. It destroys the league and german football. The DFB could throw the money they are giving to teams for tours at oversea out of the window, cause nobody in the world wants to see such a boring league or finals where if its getting close to a loose for Buyern the referee made another decision pro Buyern.
If what iam talking about is totaly bullsh** why there is even a special word for it? Millions of neutral fans and experts are wrong or what?
Ok, you've convinced me. This is some serious stuff; someone should investigate this further.
Again, I'd recommend you maybe send the dossier you've compiled to the DFL-Ombudsmann ( http://www.bundesliga.de/de/dfl/ombudsmann/ ) or maybe the citizen service of the ministry ( https://www.bmi.bund.de/DE/Kontakt/BuergerService/buergerservice_kontakt_node.html )
It's just so incredibly sad if you think what trophies BVB would have won if not for being robbened constantly. They would have been always remembered for winning the Champions League as an underdog, for example. Instead they didn't win it and won't be remembered for it, either
Again, I'd recommend you maybe send the dossier you've compiled to the DFL-Ombudsmann ( http://www.bundesliga.de/de/dfl/ombudsmann/ ) or maybe the citizen service of the ministry ( https://www.bmi.bund.de/DE/Kontakt/BuergerService/buergerservice_kontakt_node.html )
It's just so incredibly sad if you think what trophies BVB would have won if not for being robbened constantly. They would have been always remembered for winning the Champions League as an underdog, for example. Instead they didn't win it and won't be remembered for it, either
Oh you are so funny.Ok, you've convinced me. This is some serious stuff; someone should investigate this further.
Again, I'd recommend you maybe send the dossier you've compiled to the DFL-Ombudsmann ( http://www.bundesliga.de/de/dfl/ombudsmann/ ) or maybe the citizen service of the ministry ( https://www.bmi.bund.de/DE/Kontakt/BuergerService/buergerservice_kontakt_node.html )
It's just so incredibly sad if you think what trophies BVB would have won if not for being robbened constantly. They would have been always remembered for winning the Champions League as an underdog, for example. Instead they didn't win it and won't be remembered for it, either
It was investigated for the league:
http://www.faz.net/aktuell/sport/fu...80840.html?printPagedArticle=true#pageIndex_2
"There is a Bayern bonus"
Sad that you dont appriciate a fair league and tournaments. Taking trophys for unfair reasons and think you are the best almighty FC Buyern.
Hope this season we see less of that unfair biased refree shit, and got a league with tense and fair good games where the best wins it.
You do realize that if there's a general principle favouring big teams with more 'status' over smaller teams with less 'status' -and it's a principle arguably at work in every league, and sadly in more areas than just sports-, your club is profiting from that as well?
http://www.spiegel.de/wirtschaft/un...orn-bleibt-bayern-aufsichtsrat-a-1108341.html
"Ex-VW CEO Martin Winterkorn got backup from Uli Hoeness. The future Bayern Munich president wants to keep the fallen top managers of the supervisory board - and advises him not to hide."
No suprise. Criminals often want to share time together. "Gleich und gleich gesellt sich gern" is the german phrase for it.
Great to see that things are normal again at Buyern. One criminal more in the club, who cares?
"Ex-VW CEO Martin Winterkorn got backup from Uli Hoeness. The future Bayern Munich president wants to keep the fallen top managers of the supervisory board - and advises him not to hide."
No suprise. Criminals often want to share time together. "Gleich und gleich gesellt sich gern" is the german phrase for it.
Great to see that things are normal again at Buyern. One criminal more in the club, who cares?
I wrote above, that you might be right for big teams in the league. But you cant deny that we werre betrayed in all the finals against you. The supercup was only the last in a long row.
I want to see what Taxman-Höneß and Rolex-Kalle would say if that would happen only one time with Buyern..man they would rant all over every media for weeks.
First teams need to stop playing their b-teams against Bayern for the league to be competitive again.
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Taxman-Höneß and Rolex-Kalle
Ok, sliggy, in order to get this to a close, I make you a peace offering - I'll change the thread title to accommodate your grievances! Good?
Sometimes I wonder how old that guy is. It's just such an childish behaviour, the insistence of using "Buyern" and stuff.
You are absolutely sad man.
You are absolutely sad man.
@slig is quality. The scenes on here when either Bayern or United come in for Weigl and\or Dembele
AmazingTaxman-Höneß and Rolex-Kalle
Please no, this thread is about Buyern, so lets keep it like it is.
Whats your problem? We are talking about stuff related to Buyern. Only cause of there are things you dont want to hear?
@fcbforever: Is that a try of flirting? Born in the early 80ies if you are interested in. Your name "fcbforever" is one who only kids would use to scratch into the table while sitting in school, so please...
You dont want to see a fair league and competitions? I really loking forward to video evidence to get rid of such stuff.
Thats true. It was such a shame how some teams behave even before they play against FCB. A thing where every normal football fan was shaking their head about.
Flirting? Not really. You are just annoying and ruining the reputation of German posters here.
Early 80ies explains a lot though, so, becoming a fan in the early-mid 90's (does that make you an Erfolgsfan?), probably using all interest when everything went tits up and now spouting nonsense from a non existing moral highground. Living in NRW for a while, I've met way too many of your type.
I don't really have a problem, except that I'm a bit at a loss what else I could give you here in order to placate you - I already told you you've convinced me and then included your points in the very headline, and then of course two and half decades of Aufbau Ost and the Solidaritätszuschlag - what more do you want?
What is this all about?
Living in NRW and being a Buyern fan?
Sorry, but i cant take you serious anymore. Thats the most boring and unimaginative thing a football fan can do. Did anyone saw you scratching "fcbforever" in tables and busseats there?Slig is attempting to rebuild the wall between West and East Germany, one brick at the time.
@slig coming across just a tad bitter.
slig acting in his usual role as ambassador for BVB and its fanbase. His doing great, as always
Are you even reading? "For a while". I moved there once, I'm not living there anymore. You are familiar with the concept of people moving around because of parents getting a new job, because of starting university etc? Lived all your live in "East Germany" yourself or what?Living in NRW and being a Buyern fan?
Man, get a grip.
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