[stevoc]

Given Jose's bizarre comments about himself and his players not caring about this competition it's hardly surprising we put in a performance like that. Inspirational stuff that was.

Tonight he made too many changes from the weekend, wrong formation and wrong players selected to play in it. They need to start taking this competition seriously, we are in it so we might as well go all out to win the thing.

 

[mattsville]

Disappointing and a little concerning, thought it was a very negative approach, it seemed our plan was to get everyone behind the ball as our mission statement, like we were playing away to barca in the semi finals of the CL, never mind feyenoord, but we had no goal threat at all, even on the counter, don't think we had a shot on goal. We had all our attacking players with us and when we needed a goal we shove Smalling up front and launch, that concerned me. Seeing Pogba playing so deep and not influencing play in around their box concerned me about how he is going to be utilised. Great start to the season is now undone and a we have an early match in London in 2 days with confidence low. Negative view on things and results go against you sometimes but after getting beaten by city in such a massive game, this defeat won't help confidence, particularly our approach to the game, we setup far too deep and had no goal threat, and there was no standout performance from anyone, also thought Bailly was poor in the air again.

 

[what a mess]

Not bothered about the Europa one tiny bit. This game has shown the glaring weaknesses in the squad. Still lots of players to shift, namely Smalling, Darmian, Depay and Young.

Plus Schneiderlin , Valencia , Herrera, mata , schweinsteiger, Carrick , Rojo , jones , lingard
None of them good enough 4 signings in the summer hasn't even papered over the cracks .Mourinho inherited the worst united squad in decades hehashiswork cut out getting us into contention by January when the window opens again

 

[Von Mistelroum]

Genuinely cannot remember anything remotely good that Schneiderlin has done since he scored on his debut (I think). He seems completely anonymous in every game I see him in.

 

[Dobbs]

It's another game that proves you can't afford to have three or four players underperforming. Even if the opposition is average.

 

[Asger]

Plus Schneiderlin , Valencia , Herrera, mata , schweinsteiger, Carrick , Rojo , jones , lingard
None of them good enough 4 signings in the summer hasn't even papered over the cracks .Mourinho inherited the worst united squad in decades hehashiswork cut out getting us into contention by January when the window opens again

You could also add Rooney and Fellaini.

 

[Asger]

It's another game that proves you can't afford to have three or four players underperforming. Even if the opposition is average.

Or 8 players not 90 min match fit

 

[LawCharltonBest]

United played well in the second half. Just one of those games. United will beat them at Old Trafford

 

[Full bodied red]

Nights like tonight I just hope that in the return match we kick seven shades if shit out of them - who cares if it means a few yellows or reds, just get our own back against Dutch Neanderthals for once....

 

[glazed]

I blame Rooney. He did nothing tonight, the fat useless git.

 

[The Firestarter]

United played well in the second half. Just one of those games. United will beat them at Old Trafford

No we did not. We had about two shots on goal, and failed to create any sustained pressure, misplacing every second pass.

 

[Dobbs]

Or 8 players not 90 min match fit

The problems were there from the first whistle, if anything we got better in the second half. So I don't think it was fitness.

Most of the problems are long standing in anycase. Too many players who can't pass the ball. Rashford and Martial having off nights just compounded it.

 

[BennyBlanco]

Given Jose's bizarre comments about himself and his players not caring about this competition it's hardly surprising we put in a performance like that. Inspirational stuff that was.

Tonight he made too many changes from the weekend, wrong formation and wrong players selected to play in it. They need to start taking this competition seriously, we are in it so we might as well go all out to win the thing.

Have to agree, you go into a game saying the club doesnt want to be there, the players don't want to play in it, and neither do I (Mou) before showing it's a secondary fixture by resting at least... 6 of your 1st team regulars.. well, it doesn't set a good tone.
Even Sir Alex in his last several years had these poor performances and crumby results when he started treating the FA cup (and the Uefa cup 1 season) similarly.

As for the result it's not the end of the world, a solid performance and 3 points against Watford and we've still had a great start to the PL.

 

[The Purley King]

The most concerning thing about tonight was the attitude. No fecking urgency apart from the last 5 minutes. They worked harder than us, they wanted it more than us.
I don't give a feck what competition it is or who we are are playing that should never happen.
Also why is pogba playing as a holding midfielder? Wtf.

 

[bucky]

Doesn't matter much and typical overreaction by the caf IMO. Far more confident with Mourinho as our manager getting 9 points at home and a few points away from home than before.

 

[manunited1919]

Doesn't matter much and typical overreaction by the caf IMO. Far more confident with Mourinho as our manager getting 9 points at home and a few points away from home than before.

This

 

[EmPeeKay]

Let's face it, we were shit tonight and Feyernoord seized the opportunity. I am not going to be too negative about the result, neither will I be calling for the manager's head. We need to arrest this momentum of losing games and that starts with a win against Watford. At times we looked like a van Gaal team tonight and I think Jose will still require a bit of time to coach this pragmatic style out of some players.

 

[Tiber]

That was awful. However, I am so convinced that the entire competition is a waste of time that will end up costing us league points that I cant force myself to care about losing.

 

[EverReddy]

I blame Rooney. He did nothing tonight, the fat useless git.

quality.

 

[manunited1919]

We have to give Mourinho time to know his players. We had a great summer of transfers, but the best acquisition was Mourinho. We couldn't be in better hands, and the team will come good.

 

[matecro007]

Felt like Van Gaal again.
Darmian didnt get forward enough but defensively hes ok opposite of Valencia. We couldnt use Darmian as an option on the right side because he was too far deep.
We had the chances in the first half. In the second half Martial and Rashford ran out of ideas.
Little has changed with subs.
After the goal we put pressure and it didnt pay off.
First game at Europa league very disappointing. Team today was good enough to win this game. A lot of players were included havent got their match fitness and sharpness. But we have to be doing better and we just didnt do that today.

 

[Ban]

I blame Rooney. He did nothing tonight, the fat useless git.

Just passed to Valencia or tried his hollywood passes all game long. Ugh.

 

[The_Order]

A lot of our players need to shake off the Van Gaalism that still seems to be in their system.

Disappointed, but not worried, not yet.

 

[Cerpin]

feck me, that was boring. What I don't get is if this tournament is not that important, not "where United wants to be" then why not approach it with a bit of swagger? Press them high, score some fecking goals, play TFM instead of Rojo. 10 men behind the ball against Feyenoord? Painful to watch.

 

[SV_Planegg]

You do realize this team played together for the 1st time. Not that it's an excuse but it's a fact.

I keep reading this again and again. These players train together 5 days a week and play practice-matches with and against each other almost every day. It's their job to know their team mates and play decent footy with any of them on the pitch. There should be no need to ever mention something like this unless half the players were shiped in just the day before the game.

Add to that Feyenoord were so poor that a proper team like Barca or Bayern would have put four past them before HT.

Worst of all? The tactics were so cowardly and negative! I know Mourinho got a thing going for a solid defense and likes his cautious approach (even more so away from home) but why against a team that player for player hasn' t got half the quality United got?
After this not for a second do I believe these lot got any chance to win the league. Champions simply don' t play that way... ever.

 

[sunama]

United played well in the second half. Just one of those games. United will beat them at Old Trafford

That's pretty much what was said after the first PSV game.
When they came to OT, we got a draw and effectively got dumped out of the CL.

 

[sunama]

I keep reading this again and again. These players train together 5 days a week and play practice-matches with and against each other almost every day. It's their job to know their team mates and play decent footy with any of them on the pitch. There should be no need to ever mention something like this unless half the players were shiped in just the day before the game.

This is true.
Some fans on here, seem to think that the "8 players" which were used today have never played football with any of the other players. Almost as if they are totally new to MUFC.

I guess, when we lose 2 games in a row, excuses are made and sometimes those excuses are weak.
While MCFC and Chelsea (both teams using new managers) have both been winning their matches, we have now lost 2 on the trot. And the excuse of "our manager has not won a trophy for 15 years" which was used for our last 2 managers, does not wash any more. We have a top class manager at the helm.

It's early days, so I am not too worried right now, but Jose did not spend £150M in the Summer, so he can get beat by Feyenoord. Today's loss has definitely hit him and the players hard. He also now understands just how bad our back-up team is. Players like Memphis (and there are others) simply are not MUFC level. Even A.Young, who is usually assured, was below average today.

 

[acrebo]

After this not for a second do I believe these lot got any chance to win the league. Champions simply don' t play that way... ever.

Leicester literally just built a title on being strong defensively and counter-attacking over and over again.

 

[PepsiCola]

The system was all wrong today.

In previous games Valencia and Shaw provided the width to allow for our wingers to drift inside. Darmian and Rojo don't provide the same support thus when our wingers drifted the game became far to narrow.

Rashford was left isolated up top and wasn't helped by a poor performance by Pogba. I'd rather he had been dropped for a player who would have been looking to force their way into the first team tonight. A midfield of Carrick, Herrera (the most advanced) and Schneiderlin would have been better suited. However, Carrick and Schneiderlin would both have been lacking match sharpness - as Rojo, Darmian, Young, Smalling and Memphis were today. It felt like a preseason game to me.

 

[Ivor Ballokov]

Darmian and Rojo were shambolic, neither got forward close to the amount that was needed and Rojo in particular was awful defensively, in general we played a back line that was too deep though. Throw in a midfield that was too conservative and it was a disaster waiting to happen.

I'm not massively bothered, but there needs to be progress next time out, we're a work in progress and I don't expect us to go all out against everyone but we need to be on the front foot against teams like this or we will struggle.

 

[Friction]

I just watched the game on replay because I was too busy having a crappy day to watch it live... and I wish I wouldn't have. Why the hell were we giving them so much space? Rashford and Herrera were the only ones pressing and hustling. I felt bad for the Rashford, he's out there screaming and pointing and no one was pressing up to link up with him. There was way too much space to play around in. There was also no urgency in the counter attack. It resembled last year's pass back to de Gea for every 5th touch "philosophy" going on there. We gave them way too much respect.

 

[marukomu]

Amazing what 6 days can do to you. I thought we were going for the league but I feel like we won't even get top 4 now.

 

[reelworld]

I don't accept the complainings that Feyenoord kicked us off the park . That was never a problem for a Manchester United teams before. We're not fecking Arsenal. We should be able to give it back to them. If we can't handle teams playing it rough with us, then forget about winning anything this season.

 

[Shark]

Amazing what 6 days can do to you. I thought we were going for the league but I feel like we won't even get top 4 now.

Tell me about it, it feels like that nightmare that keeps creeping up in your sleep, even though you thought you'd gotten rid of it. Moyes, two years of LVG, now what seems like another season of this shit

 

[Offside]

Amazing what 6 days can do to you. I thought we were going for the league but I feel like we won't even get top 4 now.

Being a football fan. Don't start thinking about end of season targets until after Christmas.

 

[tentan]

With the team we have we really should be winning these games. Lets hope we get back on track on sunday.

 

[Billy Blaggs]

One thing I noticed was the amount of passes that were just behind the person being passed to. It stopped momentum and we passed it back to start again only for it to happen again and again.

 

[Parry Gallister]

Didn't watch, did anyone do well tonight? On the pitch, not in the caf.

 

[ash_86]

Just caught up with the game. What a horrible hostile atmosphere to play in. For a second thought we were playing in Turkey. Every time we had the ball, the opposition players just came at us with numbers . We were always 1 v 2 /3 overloaded by them. Even in the box, i could see the those players sliding in two at a time when Rashford drove into the box from the left. Thought our players were little rattled and didn't commit to the challenges worrying injury early in the season. Referee wasn't pleasant either. Altogether a s*itty evening.

 

[Friction]

Didn't watch, did anyone do well tonight? On the pitch, not in the caf.

I thought Rashford was good, although isolated most the game. Bailly was very good again, I don't think anything got past him even when he was playing through a dead leg. MOTM for me was Herrera though, he was one of the few people who was pressing and playing at a higher pace.