It's a beauty.That pic.
It's a beauty.That pic.
Some of that is down to the media's unrelenting adulation. He's hardly been criticised in 8 years. And he is a good speaker.
Some of the stuff you come out withSome of that is down to the media's unrelenting adulation. He's hardly been criticised in 8 years. And he is a good speaker.
So it's down to the notion that he is a good orator .How does that explain Trump .Some of that is down to the media's unrelenting adulation. He's hardly been criticised in 8 years. And he is a good speaker.
That pic.
"Resting smug"It's a beauty.
I think there is a very high chance for that.Is this going to be the worst cabinet of all time?
Sorry not following you there.Interesting. Is that how you went about when Hillary Clinton was elected as the Dems candidate for the presidential ticket? To put on a positive attitude and get on with it?
Is that real? (I'm genuinely asking because I haven't heard of grist.org before)Tweet
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China telling the moron not to back out of the Climate deal. For fecks sake, you couldn't make it up. Really.
Whatever Trump's appeal, it's not down to his oratorySo it's down to the notion that he is a good orator .How does that explain Trump .
Some of that is down to the media's unrelenting adulation. He's hardly been criticised in 8 years. And he is a good speaker.
He's calling you a filthy hypocrite.Sorry not following you there.
Wow, you don't half-talk shite, do you?Some of that is down to the media's unrelenting adulation. He's hardly been criticised in 8 years. And he is a good speaker.
Why?He's calling you a filthy hypocrite.
They are one of the countries suffering the most from CC, so it's not a surprise it's important to them.Is that real? (I'm genuinely asking because I haven't heard of grist.org before)
If so that shows quite a bit of confidence on the Chinese side. Would be encouraging, given that they still believe in rational reasoning.
Look at the Brexit thread right now and choose your conclusions...The only consolation left in all this madness is knowing how stupid these cretins will soon look. But even then they're probably delusional enough to spin it into a positive.
No.Wow, you don't half-talk shite, do you?
Because your moaning about Hilary being the wrong choice for the Democratic ticket was quite pointless after she he won and was the candidate... By your logic.Why?
What on earth are you on about? You can show me these moaning posts I take it.Because your moaning about Hilary being the wrong choice for the Democratic ticket was quite pointless after she he won and was the candidate... By your logic.
Yeah, but the media (there is media other than the New York Times, alas) also regularly said that about Obama, which doesn't really fit with your suggestion that 'he's hardly been criticised in 8 years'.The media is often unable to restrain itself from suggesting that a Republican occupant of the White House is actually evil.
Maybe I've got the wrong person.What on earth are you on about? You can show me these moaning posts I take it.
That was Red DreamsMaybe I've got the wrong person.
Was it not you who was contemplating supporting Trump over Clinton, after she defeated Sanders?
Oops. Well, then, I have no idea what they're on about... no.That was Red Dreams
It was Red_DreamsMaybe I've got the wrong person.
Was it not you who was contemplating supporting Trump over Clinton, after she defeated Sanders?
You joking? Apart from the fact I'm English the only posts I made before the election were moaning about Trump!Maybe I've got the wrong person.
Was it not you who was contemplating supporting Trump over Clinton, after she defeated Sanders?
*cough*You joking? Apart from the fact I'm English the only posts I made before the election were moaning about Trump!
Has ole Bird's Eye got the wrong poster?
Not to worry....I get much worse in the Brexit thread.*cough*
Move along. Nothing to see here... Sorry!
Fixed.
I've had to double check the two RDs at times too. But Red Dreams has...
his own...
peculiar way...
of writing...
With Trump is not exactly a logical leap.No.
I'm not suggesting that the NYT and other liberal outlets haven't, in carefully measured tones, more in sorrow than in anger, sometimes diverged from Obama and his administration. But comparing his treatment with his conservative predecessors, the difference speaks for itself.
The media is often unable to restrain itself from suggesting that a Republican occupant of the White House is actually evil.
Yeah, okay. Mea culpa. That 'hardly criticised' thing is not defensible. Of course he's been criticised.Yeah, but the media (there is media other than the New York Times, alas) also regularly said that about Obama, which doesn't really fit with your suggestion that 'he's hardly been criticised in 8 years'.
Going out on a limb here but perhaps the impression a politician leaves with the press is affected by the calibre of the politician himself?Yeah, okay. Mea culpa. That 'hardly criticised' thing is not defensible. Of course he's been criticised.
But the tone of coverage is very important in shaping the public's impression of a politician. Even those who know nothing about policy would still form a very favourable impression of Obama from his treatment by the press.
You can get a favourable impression of Obama from watching Obama.Yeah, okay. Mea culpa. That 'hardly criticised' thing is not defensible. Of course he's been criticised.
But the tone of coverage is very important in shaping the public's impression of a politician. Even those who know nothing about policy would still form a very favourable impression of Obama from his treatment by the press.
True story, I and a friend got fecked up at Fogo de chao after having one too many Caipirinhas and cigarsFogo de chao
I started to notice this in the Obama legacy thread.Wow, you don't half-talk shite, do you?
It's the hope that kills you. I've already made up my mind that 2017 would be a banner year for American bullshit.Is this going to be the worst cabinet of all time?
You guys still looking at polls huh?Some of that is down to the media's unrelenting adulation. He's hardly been criticised in 8 years. And he is a good speaker.
Thanks for the recommendations. Those books sound fascinating and, what's more, I intend to read them!You can get a favourable impression of Obama from watching Obama.
I agree with your prior point about sometimes a seemingly broad categorization of Republicans as 'the devil', but its not in the mainstream media that I personally find that, rather in opinion pieces.
You might like this from a while back: https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2016-10-11/five-books-to-change-liberals-minds
Scalia wrote a book? I'll have to read that, just because it's him.You can get a favourable impression of Obama from watching Obama.
I agree with your prior point about sometimes a seemingly broad categorization of Republicans as 'the devil', but its not in the mainstream media that I personally find that, rather in opinion pieces.
You might like this from a while back: https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2016-10-11/five-books-to-change-liberals-minds
EDIT, and this: http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/08/05/how-paul-krugman-made-donald-trump-possible.html
Now this is a very good point! If we can't trust the most trusted election time polls why even bother with these junk ones?You guys still looking at polls huh?