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Quite a famous charity now I think. When I volunteered with them for a bit, they didn't accept money/cash donations just volunteers and food items they would distribute during feeds.
Religion, what's the point?
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Quite a famous charity now I think. When I volunteered with them for a bit, they didn't accept money/cash donations just volunteers and food items they would distribute during feeds.
His mind was already made up when he read that Sikhism is a religion. I'd have got more attention if I had presented it as a concept.
Yep I can confidently say they aren't at all interested in money. But even then, it's an irrelevant point, corrupt priest or sages do not invalidate a religion. Greed exists everywhere. Did you stop watching United after Glazers?
I wouldn't say there's anything special about United though. It's just the team my dad told me to support when I was a stupid impressionable child, and look how that's worked out.
And, last time I was there they were selling bottles of Coke for 10 Rupees.And the food at the golden temple is great
At the Golden Temple in Amritsar (and as far as I know, every other Gurdwara), you can stay in the dorms and share in the daily communal meals for free. It is of course appreciated if you leave a small donation for the upkeep of what is a massive operation, or even better help out with the washing up (tens of thousands eat there every day).
I found it to be one of the only religious sites in India where I wasn't hussled by any dickheads trying to scam me (the other place was the Jain Temples at Palitana).
Keep the questions coming by the way! I'm a bit busy for the rest of this week but I'll try my best to answer as and when I get time
I'm not suggesting that you are twisting anything. My point is that if anyone wanted to give an explanantion of, say, Christianity or Islam they could make it all sound good by quoting wise texts and beutiful passages from the holy works such as the Bible or Quran, whereas we all know there are negatives. Many of these have been mentioned on this thread. I was just wondering if there are any in the history of Sikhism, or maybe it's considered related to Sikh individuals. The partition of India for example involved a lot of slaughter by all sides. Did Sikhs ahve any role in that ?
My own few dealings with Sikhs in India suggest that they are very upright and serious. Is this a cultural thing or something to do with the scriptures ?
You went up on the mountain?
Yeah something like 3,500 steps, but apparently just a short stroll compared to Girnar.
It was a joke. 'hair of the dog' is another drink after after a heavy night of drinking.
So you don't cut your fingernails or toenails?
What's the Sikh version of the afterlife like?
I feel at fault for this. I genuinely wanted to know because the Nazarites of the Bible also had a prohibition on hair cutting and intoxication.
Studying overlapping aspects of different religions is cool to me.
I am fascinated by the occult. What would possess someone to ever want to be into that.
In Florida the church of Satan is trying to have an after school class.
Wtf
Buddhism, Jainism, and Sikhism seem to be some really peaceful faiths. I'd say the world would be better if those had become the dominant Faith's of the world, but in order to have done that they'd have needed to take up the sword. Catch-22 I guess
Yeah. Been there twice so far. The second time I went was during some festive occasion and there were people climbing the mountain 3 times everyday for a 33 day period.
Yes, the most popular of them did take up the swords. Ashoka, Tang Dynasty in China, most of SE Asia.
If I am not mistaken, Ashoka gave up the sword after embracing Buddhism
That was what the faith like you to know.
Fact is, Buddhism in India benefited greatly from his conquests.
It was the same with my country. The first durable dynasty of a unified Vietnam back a millennium ago was created with significant support from Buddhists, and consequently it became the dominant religion since.
What's Asoka's real life story then if we've been misled all along? Cite your sources.
From Wiki.
Convenient, don't you think?
I'll dig up some stuffs later on when I have the time. Was raised a Buddhist so the official version was something I questioned when turning atheist.
I went to the hospital today and saw many disabled children. God is a cnut. Feck your religion.
When I tell people this they always answer "God does not interfere with people". When I ask them "how do you know what God thinks?" I get all kinds of shitty answers , or even insults.
One doesn't need religion to act as a decent human being.
I think Religion was mainly created so that people could fix their roofs...
Every fecking church going has a fecking collection for their roof...
Every fecking church going has a fecking collection for their roof...
I know very little about it but it seems to me that Jainism taken to its most extreme must be the toughest religion to follow.
Yeah, I remember reading about people who won't eat fruit which hasn't fallen from the tree, for example, which is completely mad if you're a sustenance farmer. Most of the year would have you close to starvation.
Yeah, it is a tough religion to follow with as absurd claims and beliefs as you would find in any other religion. Actually, more than any other religion and beliefs.
Nah. With vegetables (except those which grow under the ground like onions, potatoes etc.), pulses, grains and milk & milk products you are sorted even if you follow that principle regarding fruits, which I doubt anyone does.
I thought those who took it to such extremes didn't drink milk? Obviously it's bound to turn it to be, like, only a handful of people. But that life is hard, man.
I honestly have never heard of anyone saying consuming milk is barred in Jainism. As far as I know milk (be it from cow, goat, buffalo, camel) has always been part of the diet in India and no one bats an eyelid as to whether its morally correct to consume milk.
Tbf it's been a good 10 years since I read about it, and some kind of weird veganism might have replaced it in my head.
@Silva I understand your need/desire/quest to denounce all religions for the 'fakes that they are'. But could you respect us as humans too and give us some breathing space to discuss actual religions. @AXVnee7 is helping me understand Sikhism more than I have been able to elsewhere. If you carry on as it is the religious folk will once again abandon this thread and Raoul will be wondering why this thread isn't good enough to discuss religion, ad infinitum.
Sikhs believe in violence.
What's stopping you from having a PM conversation?
Input from others, or questions from different angles (not de-railers). That's the purpose of forums vs PMs.
Then deal with it.
We could always start a religion discussion thread where various believers have grown up discussions about their beliefs without annoying atheist hipsters chiming in. Sort of like the Ronaldo (WUMs will be thread banned) thread.
Aside from Jainism the other 2 you mentioned can and have justified violence.
Deal with what?