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2?Is this team ready to go up against Europe's elite in the CL next season?
Need 2 more big signings IMO.
Managing the opposition away from home, and limiting them to one chance is pretty good in my book. If anything, fingers should be pointed at strikers missing chances on a consistent basis.Most of the people here agree that our 2nd half was bad. There's no point in dominating teams and drawing matches everytime. Maybe your definition of dominating is different.
No, it's just that you are really struggling to judge individual performances in a team sport. Carrick and Pogba were excellent yesterday. The attack became largely impotent in the 2nd half, when Martial and Fellaini were introduced. Pedestrial and not creating enough clear chances in the final 3rd. That's not exactly Pogba's and Carrick fault though. They definitely controlled the midfield and provided very good passing and shielding throughout the game.Most of the people here agree that our 2nd half was bad. There's no point in dominating teams and drawing matches everytime. Maybe your definition of dominating is different.
It may be good statistically but considering we draw game after game after game then it really isn't working as it should.Managing the opposition away from home, and limiting them to one chance is pretty good in my book. If anything, fingers should be pointed at strikers missing chances on a consistent basis.
We need a CDM and a player who can score goals. Our defence has been good enough. Pogba and Herrera have done well most of the times. We can't sign 4 players every season and just hope it works. When we bring in new players those players need time to get used to Jose's tactics or time to get used to the physical nature of PL. You tell me how many players we need? 4? 6? 8? 11?
First half half was good, second not so much.Really good performance? It was a crap performance. If we want to be elite, this was embarrassing. If we want to be average shit houses, top performance, mint!
Managers have different ways of working and getting best out of players. Mourinho, without doubt, has been mostly successful with his way managing. Sir Alex succeeded and hardly ever criticised players openly. Take your choice.It may be good statistically but considering we draw game after game after game then it really isn't working as it should.
It doesn't help that Mourinho slags off the strikers on a consistent basis. Strikers are at their best when confident. I don't know how any player can be confident listening to Mourinho. (Barring Zlatan of course, as he doesn't give a shit what anyone says).
The best players will have confidence in themselves without needing to have their arse licked by the manager in public. If we have wet flannels that fall apart after a little criticism then they aren't the type of players we need to get us back to where we want to be. I can guarantee if the likes of Neville, Giggs, Scholes, Ronaldo, Keane, Beckham (I could keep going here) were criticised for a poor performance they would be motivated to up their game the following week. That's the kind of group mentality that dominates leagues and competes for the CL.It may be good statistically but considering we draw game after game after game then it really isn't working as it should.
It doesn't help that Mourinho slags off the strikers on a consistent basis. Strikers are at their best when confident. I don't know how any player can be confident listening to Mourinho. (Barring Zlatan of course, as he doesn't give a shit what anyone says).
Everybody has been whining that Martial has not been starting, then lo and behold when he comes on he is rubbish. That was the only attacking sub he could make. That left Fellaini, as the only option to bring on to try and put some sort of pressure on the opposition. They both let him down. He put out an attacking side that most were happy with and they were toothless for the most part. That is down to the players. How many chances do they have to miss.When did Mourinho become so bad at substitutions?
Lost count of the number of times we've conceded a late goal immediately after he makes subs.
Exactly... We will end up an absolute laughing stock in the CL if we do end up qualifying for it. There is absolutely nothing about this team which excites me.
You'll be in for a pleasant surprise as we'll reach the final.Again, I predicted the exact score. Too obvious nowadays.
Absolute gash, again. I keep saying, this is now our level so let's just accept it. We are not a big team anymore, we're a top 6 PL team who, on their day, can be a good cup side. That's all we are since SAF left and until I see something to prove me wrong, that's all we are going forward.
Shockingly average performance from a team that is supposedly 'all in' with this competition. We are not winning this cup. We'll scrape a win at home but we're going out in the semis regardless of who we play, IMO.
I hate it when ones who predict a bad performance then come on and expect a pat on the back for their predictions. We should have won easily last night. What let us down was the same thing that has let us down all season, the finishing. Jose knows it, he was not happy and will try to do something about it in the summer. Some need to get over themselves.You'll be in for a pleasant surprise as we'll reach the final.
I would still rather be in it and be rubbish than have to settle for Europa again.Exactly... We will end up an absolute laughing stock in the CL if we do end up qualifying for it. There is absolutely nothing about this team which excites me.
After almost every draw we hear the line "should have won easily"I hate it when ones who predict a bad performance then come on and expect a pat on the back for their predictions. We should have won easily last night. What let us down was the same thing that has let us down all season, the finishing. Jose knows it, he was not happy and will try to do something about it in the summer. Some need to get over themselves.
True. But to be fair, Leicester's CL has been more of a fairytale experience. There's been no pressure on them as nobody's expected them to get very far, let alone the quarters. I can just see what'll happen with us though. We'll qualify, make a couple of signings in the summer and the expectation will be the usual ramped up nonsense and will fall flat on our arses...I would still rather be in it and be rubbish than have to settle for Europa again.
Besides, a lot of our top targets may turn us down in the summer if we have no champs league a second season running.
We're a better team than Leicester and they've managed okay in Europe this season.
We are drawing because we are not taking our chances, so giving the other teams a glimmer of hope. Ibra has been great, but misses loads. Was he the right choice? Rashford looked good last night and I have great hopes for him. Mkhitaryan I think will be better next season. Martial is too flaky a personality for me. Players will always get some sort of criticism even if it is kept in the dressing room. He seems to take it too much to heart and does not seem capable of doing anything to prove the manager wrong. Jesse needs to be more proficient at scoring the easy chances. The Mata injury has lost us a good option.The club thinking Wayne Rooney would make any contribution is a massive mistake and I hope he is gone in the summer.After almost every draw we hear the line "should have won easily"
Our performances are as predictable as Arsenal's season.
Exactly.The best players will have confidence in themselves without needing to have their arse licked by the manager in public. If we have wet flannels that fall apart after a little criticism then they aren't the type of players we need to get us back to where we want to be. I can guarantee if the likes of Neville, Giggs, Scholes, Ronaldo, Keane, Beckham (I could keep going here) were criticised for a poor performance they would be motivated to up their game the following week. That's the kind of group mentality that dominates leagues and competes for the CL.
Very good point.Everybody has been whining that Martial has not been starting, then lo and behold when he comes on he is rubbish. That was the only attacking sub he could make. That left Fellaini, as the only option to bring on to try and put some sort of pressure on the opposition. They both let him down. He put out an attacking side that most were happy with and they were toothless for the most part. That is down to the players. How many chances do they have to miss.
I pretty much expect the same mate.True. But to be fair, Leicester's CL has been more of a fairytale experience. There's been no pressure on them as nobody's expected them to get very far, let alone the quarters. I can just see what'll happen with us though. We'll qualify, make a couple of signings in the summer and the expectation will be the usual ramped up nonsense and will fall flat on our arses...
The manager has the right to criticise the players but doing it in public might not work for every player. Each player is mentally different, criticising Mkhi or Shaw might make them play better but the same thing might now work for Martial or Rashford or some other player. Even the best players need motivation sometimes and its the managers job to find out how to motivate each player. I'm not saying the manager should lick their arse in public, but he shouldn't criticize players who are already low on confidence in public.The best players will have confidence in themselves without needing to have their arse licked by the manager in public. If we have wet flannels that fall apart after a little criticism then they aren't the type of players we need to get us back to where we want to be. I can guarantee if the likes of Neville, Giggs, Scholes, Ronaldo, Keane, Beckham (I could keep going here) were criticised for a poor performance they would be motivated to up their game the following week. That's the kind of group mentality that dominates leagues and competes for the CL.
Well his faith is misplaced then as nearly everyone he tries parking the bus at 1-0 we concede.I actually think that his approach in the second half last night (parking the bus at one nil up) was due to the fact that he has absolutely no faith in our attackers to score the necessary goals.
It's obvious to me that he has more faith in the teams ability to nullify the opposition than he does in us blowing teams away with our goal scoring exploits.
Hopefully Mourinho can bring in two or three attack minded players in the summer and duds like Martial can also step it up.
It is not acceptable though. The level at this club needs to be much higher, so you can't really call performances like last night good. Maybe if we were Everton.It's amusing that people still expect us to be "elite" this season. Have you seen our football this season? It's been average nearly throughout. That's not suddenly going to change in the Europa league. We're poor in attack and it shows nearly every week.
But I'm surprised with the reactions in this thread. We played quite well last night. Unlucky to draw. Like everyone I'm not happy with where we are as an attacking side and think Mourinho should have done much better. But we still played pretty well and should have won that game. Considering the way we've played all season, that's not a disappointing peformance.
I'm totally with you mate. The amount of draws we get coupled with the lack of goals we score is starting to create a bit of a crisis situation.Well his faith is misplaced then as nearly everyone he tries parking the bus at 1-0 we concede.
Don't let football do that to you! I bet the players slept ok!Spent the whole of last night twisting and turning in agony trying to sleep I was so frustrated.
A 2-1 to us would have been a much better result.
Need a few early goals in the return tie to settle the nerves. I would rest a few players for the Chelsea game.
Yip. Play for the draw.Spent the whole of last night twisting and turning in agony trying to sleep I was so frustrated.
A 2-1 to us would have been a much better result.
Need a few early goals in the return tie to settle the nerves. I would rest a few players for the Chelsea game.
I agree.Bunch of crybabies if you ask me. Still favorites to progress and complete our trophy set. Already won the league cup and still in with a shout at top 4. We are playing much more entertaining football than last year too. The draws will become wins once we sign another 20 plus goals a season player imo
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