PL entertaining idea of late weekend kickoff
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No thanks. That's when I watch Spanish/Italian/French/Portuguese football.
No. We are no longer in the Europa league. feck off with that Continental shite.
This.
Even though i have to wake up sometimes at 7:45 am to watch early games (here in south america) i dont want them to clash with other european league games, or our local leagues games also
I like it. It will be a great excuse to go out for a few early pints on a Saturday night. Good news for the pub trade.
PL & Sky/BT will use any excuse to maximise profits. It will surely come. Won't be good for viewers in Asia but maybe they are targeting the North & South American markets.
Too much football.
Just put the important matches back on Sunday as a double header
Just put the important matches back on Sunday as a double header
Another new TV contract due already? Transfer fees set to double again in 2019 then?
Exactly. And the culture of English football is so centered around the pub in the afternoon and all that goes with the weekend. Sort of a family activity. You play late in warmer countries, not in freezing cold ones. Leave the late nights for European nights or those monday games.
I heard they are more likely to go for 11am kick offs on Sunday
I remember when it was centred around the actual football match in the afternoon.
Yeah. Hate when 2 games that you really want to watch clash. This already happens semi regularly and you can kind of manage it with a TV/Laptop combo, but not ideal.
How many of the PL games a season get televised at the minute?
Over 50% seems a hell of a lot.
Over 50% seems a hell of a lot.
7.45 on a Saturday is a stupid kick off time. If they really need an extra time slot just stagger the Sunday kick off times by half an hour.
I think I forgot to write all the stuff I wanted to put in there
Went a bit too fast. Of course it's centered around the football match. Pub or family event doesn't matter. It's suppose to be a good time out for everyone. Then the weekend continues in the evening.What the PL should do is scrap 3pm Saturday games completely and move the standard PL fixture spot to Sunday, thus avoiding the blackout and leaving Saturday 3pm slots to Championship and below.
They should then completely cut Sky and BT out of the equation and sell their product directly to us the consumers via an online based service - think Netflix for football.
This can be a subscription service with apps for smart TVs, mobile phones, tablets, PS/Xbox etc or via web browser, with every single game available to watch live.
They could sell this subscription for a lower price per month than we are currently made to fork out for Sky and BT Sport and by cutting out the middleman the PL still bring in more money overall, and I'd also wager more people would take up the option to subscribe when they get every game via one source for a more reasonable price.
Netflix has shown that people are willing to pay for content when they're not being ripped off, and the NFL has shown this model to work with their Game Pass system.
PL needs to embrace the technology available in digital media, everybody wins. Except Sky and BT, they lose, which is another bonus.
They should then completely cut Sky and BT out of the equation and sell their product directly to us the consumers via an online based service - think Netflix for football.
This can be a subscription service with apps for smart TVs, mobile phones, tablets, PS/Xbox etc or via web browser, with every single game available to watch live.
They could sell this subscription for a lower price per month than we are currently made to fork out for Sky and BT Sport and by cutting out the middleman the PL still bring in more money overall, and I'd also wager more people would take up the option to subscribe when they get every game via one source for a more reasonable price.
Netflix has shown that people are willing to pay for content when they're not being ripped off, and the NFL has shown this model to work with their Game Pass system.
PL needs to embrace the technology available in digital media, everybody wins. Except Sky and BT, they lose, which is another bonus.
Good to see regulat TV viewer figures drop so much. 14 percent is a big fall. Maybe they'll realise they're pushing it all too far.
Some good suggestions there, switching to an online sub service would make a lot of sense and make it easier for the average fan to see all the games they want.
It all sounds too sensible though no doubt the Premier League will not even consider it.
I vaguely remember reading a few stories in the 90's that that kept saying eventually the PL would have a PPV service so you could watch any game you wanted, 20 years later and still no sign of it.
Definitely this.
I think they could even charge more than a BT/Sky Sports package and easily justify it. Right now, to get the platform for Sky or BT TV and to then add on the Sports channels to that platform, it can cost around £90-£100 per month. For that money, you are still only getting a fraction of live football. 3pm KO's blacked out, even games that should have been 3pm KOs that have been moved to the Sunday (due to Europa League for example) also carry forward the same blackout. It's a joke that for the money that fans fork out, they still can't watch every Premier League game. As United fans, we are lucky that we are on TV 9 PL matchdays out of 10. For a fan of a midtable club, it's terrible value, and just not worth it unless they want to watch a lot of football as a neutral.
The North American sports all have very good online platforms. Even the WWE does now too. The PL introduced that Premier League Pass for a short time that was only available in New Zealand, Indonesia and some little pacific islands, for some reason. Some other countries have PL games behind the red button for much less ££ than we pay in the UK. Yet in the PL's own country, the accessibility to watch live Premier League football is pretty awful. Expensive, limited, and spread across two different services. It makes no sense.
They are getting heavy handed with shutting down streams, but how else can you watch the 3pm KOs? Are you really supposed to sit and wait for Match of the Day, to watch 8 minutes of highlights? To fork out near £100 a month for live football and to still be listening to games on the radio as the only legitimate coverage is pretty shocking in 2017.
They did try to do this, very badly, in the early 00's. "PremPlus" it was called, with specific league games behind a PPV blackout. This was before someone ridiculously decided that Premier League football has to be shared between two channels. They now seem to claim that NowTV offers the same solution, where you can get a Sky Sports day pass for £6.99 or something. It's the massively outdated 3pm blackout that is the issue more than anything. Either ditch the blackout, or don't have PL and FL fixtures at the same time.
Yeah i remember Prem Plus, but i think the talk back in the day was always about a PPV service where you could watch any PL match you wanted to. Not just specific matches, as i said 20 years on still no sign of it, the depressing thing is it wouldn't surprise me if we still don't have it 20 years from now.
And yeah the 3pm blackout is ridiculous and is the root of all this nonsense, it would be a shame to have no saturday matches but moving everything to a sunday might be the easiest solution.
Excellent suggestions here.
What happens if the internet goes down or connection speeds are not fast enough?
Netflix can stream in HD at very low connection speeds, that wouldn't be an issue.
Tough. I don't mean that in a nasty way, but when the internet goes down whilst using xbox live/psn, I just roll my eyes at the bad luck.
oh look, another package for premier league to sell.
Well then, that makes the idea of moving football over to online only silly, until more reliable tech comes out
Bit rate is low though. For me Netflix's was down for 2 hours the over day. Having online only streaming for football is not a viable solution right now
You could say the same thing about poor weather interfering with Sky dishes. At the end of the day the internet is easily sufficiently stable for this kind of service.
BT TV is already provided entirely by internet, and there's talk of Sky Q becoming the same next year and dishes becoming a thing of the past.
It's definitely a viable solution.
Think we're getting over saturated with football now. I only tend to watch the odd game outside of watching United nowadays and the major cup competitions.
That'd be better than 5.30pm kick off when we play the teams down south.
Football, any football, has got to be better than Casualty or Simon Cowell....
I've had sky and virgin tv services go out in the past and missed games how is that any different from an internet service going down?
Most parts of the UK have pretty reliable internet.
Sky and BT between them pay something like £1.7b per year for the TV rights. Would the premier league get that much revenue selling straight to the consumer? I doubt it. Sky and BT pay over the odds to entice people to join their service, hence the ridiculous fees.
You think Sky and BT provide football at a loss?
Possibly it depends on how many subscribers they can get i suppose. I'm currently paying over £40 a month for Sky and Bt sports. Even if they charged £30 a month for a subscription service and managed to attract 5m subscribers thats around 1.8 billion per year.
Obviously this benefits me as an overseas viewer (I could watch matches over breakfast) but I do think local, and especially match-going fans should be put first with regard to playing times.
What's the deal with the "Saturday 3 pm blackout" in England? What's the point? Who decided on it?
I'm not sure how much it would cost for the PL to run their own digital media platform, including presenters, filming, production, marketing, design, and all the rest of the on-going IT and service delivery costs, but I imagine it would cost quite a bit. they would have to earn a lot more than £1.7b per year, then, just to match what Sky and BT are offering (an amount that seems to go up every 3 years). I just see no reason for them to do this on their own.
it's not as easy as that. Sky and BT aren't just offering football. They know by not paying over the odds for the premier league rights, they wouldn't just lose football fans but users of their TV, movie and broadband services, too.
I don't think they want to take on the hassle of managing a data center and getting into businesses they know nothing about. Selling the rights is the easiest way to make money.
Also, this solution won't work in all geographies. In India, Tata Sky is pretty cheap (compared to UK) and we get to watch most EPL matches through the Star Sports channels. Also, internet connectivity and penetration has much to be desired so I don't think there will be takers for a more premium streaming service here.