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Ever since they've banned all foreign bookmakers in Poland I have basically completely removed myself out of gambling. It doesn't actually feel that bad.
 

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Ever since they've banned all foreign bookmakers in Poland I have basically completely removed myself out of gambling. It doesn't actually feel that bad.
Yeah it feels great. Went three weeks without even looking at any games and then fell back into it.

Going to stop now till the start of the season
 

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Yeah it feels great. Went three weeks without even looking at any games and then fell back into it.

Going to stop now till the start of the season
I don't even have the opportunity now anymore as I can only bet at local bookies who have terrible interface, terrible odds and you have to pay 12% tax on your winnings + stake.
 

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Ever since they've banned all foreign bookmakers in Poland I have basically completely removed myself out of gambling. It doesn't actually feel that bad.
Feck that sucks mate, sorry to hear that. I actually went through the same situation as you when I had to relocate to Asia because of my Dad's job and I by-passed it with a VPN. I suggest you do the same as well. Nothing beats Bet365 when it comes to betting, although weirdly, I'm actually winning with local bookmaker as it trains you to be better in betting.
 

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So I'm going to be putting £100 a weekend on a bet around evens with the idea that if I win I can go out that Saturday night and if I lose I just stay at home.

Let's see how this goes when the Premier League starts again.
 

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So I'm going to be putting £100 a weekend on a bet around evens with the idea that if I win I can go out that Saturday night and if I lose I just stay at home.

Let's see how this goes when the Premier League starts again.
Don't do this to yourself. :lol: think of it this way, if you lose money, it gives you all the more reason to go out to get wasted since if you can waste £100 away, what's a couple of pint more? I'd go for a USA and Mexico doubles parlay in their Concaf Gold Cup opening matches if I were give you, a nice odds of 2.15.
 

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Feck that sucks mate, sorry to hear that. I actually went through the same situation as you when I had to relocate to Asia because of my Dad's job and I by-passed it with a VPN. I suggest you do the same as well. Nothing beats Bet365 when it comes to betting, although weirdly, I'm actually winning with local bookmaker as it trains you to be better in betting.
Nobody will pay out the money though. Even banks are not accepting transfers from bookmakers anymore.
 

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Nobody will pay out the money though. Even banks are not accepting transfers from bookmakers anymore.
You can set up an offshore bank account in a neighbouring country where Bet365 is legal there, and pays someone who lives there to use his address as a verification, a lot of hassle regarding the groundwork but its worth the hassle IMO if you bet regularly.
 

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Yeah it feels great. Went three weeks without even looking at any games and then fell back into it.

Going to stop now till the start of the season
Well that didn't last.. Went for Nadal 3-0, Tsonga, Murray/Soares, Paire.. 2 down, 2 to go
 

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You can set up an offshore bank account in a neighbouring country where Bet365 is legal there, and pays someone who lives there to use his address as a verification, a lot of hassle regarding the groundwork but its worth the hassle IMO if you bet regularly.
Nah too much hassle. I am happy with not gambling. I wasn't really making money out of it. I will still have an occasional 10-14 fold during season at a local bookmaker and will swallow the taxes when I eventually win the £20k I have been destined to win for a long time.
 

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Ever since they've banned all foreign bookmakers in Poland I have basically completely removed myself out of gambling. It doesn't actually feel that bad.
I don't even have the opportunity now anymore as I can only bet at local bookies who have terrible interface, terrible odds and you have to pay 12% tax on your winnings + stake.
Wow, didn't realise that! :eek: Sorry to hear that but it must suck.
 

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@Sarni , they block the sites via isps? Can't even access them? If not, maybe bank to skrill to site might work for you? I sometimes do paysafecard -> skrill -> bet365. No bank.
 

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Ever since they've banned all foreign bookmakers in Poland I have basically completely removed myself out of gambling. It doesn't actually feel that bad.
I haven't bet at all since the close of the regular football season. Feels good. Bet365 are being cnuts though and offering me £100 matched deposit bonuses.
 

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@Sarni , they block the sites via isps? Can't even access them? If not, maybe bank to skrill to site might work for you? I sometimes do paysafecard -> skrill -> bet365. No bank.
Skrill will not accept transfers from bookmakers if you are from Poland either these days, or so I have heard. There are workarounds I think but honestly not worth the hassle and if any tax authorities found out, you could end up paying up to 350 times your average daily stake as a fine. Perhaps someday they will bring foreign bookmakers back but there is little incentive to do so for the government when they did not pay local taxes anyway.
 

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Completely get that it's not worth a hassle, and that the break might not be so bad. Our local bookies are complete cnuts as well. 5% first for *manipulative expanses*, and then the government also takes 10% of any winnings (probably more if they are big),
 

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Nah too much hassle. I am happy with not gambling. I wasn't really making money out of it. I will still have an occasional 10-14 fold during season at a local bookmaker and will swallow the taxes when I eventually win the £20k I have been destined to win for a long time.
I hope I don't jinx you but that's fecking amazing! Congrats! I hope you win that £20k, if you don't mind me asking, what was your stake for that? It's always been one of my dream to win a 14 game fold with a payout like this but unfortunately, I never seem to have such luck. Always come so close but one or two ruining the entire accumulator. If you remember early on in the season, I thought I had a good chance of winning £70k from £1k but Sevilla and City fecked up in the second leg of their CL tie. Anyway Arsenal didn't make top 4 but I'd have edited the bet and replaced Arsenal with Liverpool.

@Sarni , they block the sites via isps? Can't even access them? If not, maybe bank to skrill to site might work for you? I sometimes do paysafecard -> skrill -> bet365. No bank.
In a way yes but primarily, they block your account via your geography so if you are from Poland and Poland came up with a new legislation banning online gambling, they ban your account.

I haven't bet at all since the close of the regular football season. Feels good. Bet365 are being cnuts though and offering me £100 matched deposit bonuses.
What about all you pending bets then? Do they just cash out or refund you your original stake? I'd be fecking pissed if I have a good chance of winning a high stake accumulator and they just void it.

Skrill will not accept transfers from bookmakers if you are from Poland either these days, or so I have heard. There are workarounds I think but honestly not worth the hassle and if any tax authorities found out, you could end up paying up to 350 times your average daily stake as a fine. Perhaps someday they will bring foreign bookmakers back but there is little incentive to do so for the government when they did not pay local taxes anyway.
That's fecking ridiculous, 350 times your average daily stake as a fine?! :eek: in most countries, even if they find out, they will just block the transfer.
 

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I hope I don't jinx you but that's fecking amazing! Congrats! I hope you win that £20k, if you don't mind me asking, what was your stake for that? It's always been one of my dream to win a 14 game fold with a payout like this but unfortunately, I never seem to have such luck. Always come so close but one or two ruining the entire accumulator. If you remember early on in the season, I thought I had a good chance of winning £70k from £1k but Sevilla and City fecked up in the second leg of their CL tie. Anyway Arsenal didn't make top 4 but I'd have edited the bet and replaced Arsenal with Liverpool.
I think you misunderstood me :lol: I just meant I will be putting long accumulator at small stakes at local bookies, those impossible ones just for fun.

That's fecking ridiculous, 350 times your average daily stake as a fine?! :eek: in most countries, even if they find out, they will just block the transfer.
That's the limit, I don't think they ever go that high. In the past they didn't even go after people for gambling online but it has somewhat changed with new government.
 

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I think you misunderstood me :lol: I just meant I will be putting long accumulator at small stakes at local bookies, those impossible ones just for fun.



That's the limit, I don't think they ever go that high. In the past they didn't even go after people for gambling online but it has somewhat changed with new government.
Ahhhhh....damn! :lol: have you strike any of those insane accumulators though? I never really have such luck, must be amazing if we can get just one of those accumulators right.
 

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Not Football but thought I'd share, annoyed that Dimitrov bet is void as it lowers the odds and he was set to win anyway but thankfully the odds are really low and my stakes are small anyway.





 

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Completely get that it's not worth a hassle, and that the break might not be so bad. Our local bookies are complete cnuts as well. 5% first for *manipulative expanses*, and then the government also takes 10% of any winnings (probably more if they are big),
Where are you holed up?
 

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Hope you don't get offended by this but is it true that there's quite a lot of match-fixing going on there? I met a Croatian guy on Facebook in my teens, who sold tips to me offering actual scoreline predictions and his tips were like 4/4 success, I jokingly asked him once how are his tips so accurate and he said they are all fixed. :lol:
Never paid much attention to it as I was still very young back then but I never heard from him since.
 

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No idea, do not follow anything much from here. But doubt it, guess it's similar to the rest of the Europe. I once got correct score tips for German second league. Of course, I didn't believe it a bit, yet checked later, and voila, they came through. It was from one about-betting site that wanted members, yet it was paid registration.

I received no more tips after. :nervous:

Hope you don't get offended by this but is it true that there's quite a lot of match-fixing going on there? I met a Croatian guy on Facebook in my teens, who sold tips to me offering actual scoreline predictions and his tips were like 4/4 success, I jokingly asked him once how are his tips so accurate and he said they are all fixed. :lol:
Never paid much attention to it as I was still very young back then but I never heard from him since.
 

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No idea, do not follow anything much from here. But doubt it, guess it's similar to the rest of the Europe. I once got correct score tips for German second league. Of course, I didn't believe it a bit, yet checked later, and voila, they came through. It was from one about-betting site that wanted members, yet it was paid registration.

I received no more tips after. :nervous:
First two tiers in Croatia are not fixed are far as I'm aware (barring the yearly Zagreb one, owner owns both clubs)
German leagues are legit to the Oberliga. Below that, there are occasionally some fixed.
 

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Real Salt Lake will be fielding their reserves (mainly Real Monarchs) for the last 30/45 of the game. United -0.5 asian or -1 asian will be a nice bet then.
 

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I've got a Hurricanes and Lions parlay for this weekend's rugby and SA to win the Test series against England going. Not doing well this season in baseball. Cubs have cost me lots of money, thank goodness for the Astros and the Dodgers. Taking the Diamondbacks at the Reds for tonight with Greinke pitching.

Is it worth a punt on Houston to win the NBA championship at 17/2? I'm nervous about D'aontini being the coach and of course, the Warriors are still the Warriors but those are decent odds.
 

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I noticed there's goals galore going on in all these preseason friendlies with teams conceding silly goals.

I'm not going to bet more than 200 on a preseason friendly match after losing a decent amount on Bayern Munich and PSG so I'll just put a small punt on all the teams to score in an accumulator and sit back to enjoy the match.



I think there's a fairly good chance this accumulator will come good but I'd most likely miss out by 1 or 2. Still worth a punt.
 

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I noticed there's goals galore going on in all these preseason friendlies with teams conceding silly goals.

I'm not going to bet more than 200 on a preseason friendly match after losing a decent amount on Bayern Munich and PSG so I'll just put a small punt on all the teams to score in an accumulator and sit back to enjoy the match.



I think there's a fairly good chance this accumulator will come good but I'd most likely miss out by 1 or 2. Still worth a punt.
I reckon the Spurs/Roma and City/Madrid games could end to nil?? Possibly the Inter/Lyon game too? Good luck though. :)
 

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I reckon the Spurs/Roma and City/Madrid games could end to nil?? Possibly the Inter/Lyon game too? Good luck though. :)
Thanks bud. Spurs and City defence are wank and they always tend to ship in goals, Madrid also seem like the kind of team who will concede goals, they are bound to score so the onus is on City to score. I still think its worth a punt. The one which would probably ruin this accumulator is most likely Chelsea/Bayern Munich or Inter Milan/Lyon, I can see them end to nil.

Also placed a bet on Lukaku to score anytime. Odds is very good. I reckon he would score, this is the kind of games he relishes and why he wants to elevate his status and move to Man Utd.



Make it 3 goals in 3 games Rom Red! :lol:
 

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I noticed there's goals galore going on in all these preseason friendlies with teams conceding silly goals.

I'm not going to bet more than 200 on a preseason friendly match after losing a decent amount on Bayern Munich and PSG so I'll just put a small punt on all the teams to score in an accumulator and sit back to enjoy the match.



I think there's a fairly good chance this accumulator will come good but I'd most likely miss out by 1 or 2. Still worth a punt.
Best way to gamble friendlies it to just bet Halves rather than full game. Huge swings from subs etc so they are generally unpredictable pre-game. I'll often Bet Team A first half and switch sides at HT once subs have been made.
 

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Best way to gamble friendlies it to just bet Halves rather than full game. Huge swings from subs etc so they are generally unpredictable pre-game. I'll often Bet Team A first half and switch sides at HT once subs have been made.
And there goes my accumulator, well it lasted fun even though it's just for 1 day! :lol:

I just knew Inter/Lyon match would screw up my parlay. Sounds like a good betting strategy you have there, I'd definitely take this into consideration with the up-coming friendlies. It's just that sometimes I can't play live betting due to my work so I'd just spunk some decent amount on a series of matches on an accumulator and hope they come off. Just placed a bet on a 14 game accumulator which I think has a fairly good chance.






I had a 200 bet on USA to win CONCACAF Gold Cup and Federer to win Wimbledon before the start of their tournaments. Now that USA has made it to the CONCACAF Gold Cup final and they are facing Jamaica instead of Mexico, this bet has a very high chance of winning. I'm thinking of hedging the bet since their odds have dropped to 1.22 but surely they are overwhelming favourites considering the opponent and they are at home. Might do an accumulator with Jamaica in it to soften the blow if USA somehow blows this. Fingers crossed.
 
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Nice bet mate. You could use Betfair to lay the States and get considerably more than those cashout figures assuming you have the bank to cover the bet.
 

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Anyone looking at champs league qualifiers tonight? Red bull seem goodmvalue and so do Rosenborg to do something.
 

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Anyone looking at champs league qualifiers tonight? Red bull seem goodmvalue and so do Rosenborg to do something.
Rosenberg are not the team everyone remembers, they are that price for a reason. They are horrendous now, two equal games with Dundalk in the last round shows you their level. I'm huge on Celtic -1 asian tonight but both Dembele and Griffiths are out so I may trade.
 

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Rosenberg are not the team everyone remembers, they are that price for a reason. They are horrendous now, two equal games with Dundalk in the last round shows you their level. I'm huge on Celtic -1 asian tonight but both Dembele and Griffiths are out so I may trade.
Yeah fair enough , but with Scottish football being so bad and Celtic depleted, thought there may be some value somewhere. I'll avoid.