Mourinho targets 15-year stay at Manchester United

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All the names you mentioned where not key players, and Fergie retired years ago. I don't get your point, do you know any coaches out there who would win league titles and the CL with Cleverley, Lingard and Welbeck? Or you want us to bring Fergie back or something
What I mean is, I'd prefer someone who will work hard for the team and do the job required rather than a team full of egotistical superstars, players who go under the radar doing their business e.g. Herrera, Valencia, Darmian, Lingard, Fellaini.
 

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What I mean is, I'd prefer someone who will work hard for the team and do the job required rather than a team full of egotistical superstars, players who go under the radar doing their business e.g. Herrera, Valencia, Darmian, Lingard, Fellaini.
Well we won't win anything with a team full of 'hardworking' players. I want us to sign quality players, I don't know what brought egotistical superstars into this. Real Madrid were simply better than us yesterday because they had players in almost every position. So do Barca, or Bayern, I don't see them moaning about egotistical superstars. Even the players you mentioned didn't fail here because they were 'egotistical superstars'. Falcao was finished because of a serious injury and Di Maria could simply did not like it here. They're both doing well in their respective clubs. Having all these 'hardworking' players as starters simply means we'll be second best the minute we come against any quality side like yesterday. We are not fecking West Brom or Stoke, we're one of the richest clubs in the world, it's time we looked like it on the pitch
 

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Well we won't win anything with a team full of 'hardworking' players. I want us to sign quality players, I don't know what brought egotistical superstars into this. Real Madrid were simply better than us yesterday because they had players in almost every position. So do Barca, or Bayern, I don't see them moaning about egotistical superstars. Even the players you mentioned didn't fail here because they were 'egotistical superstars'. Falcao was finished because of a serious injury and Di Maria could simply did not like it here. They're both doing well in their respective clubs. Having all these 'hardworking' players as starters simply means we'll be second best the minute we come against any quality side like yesterday. We are not fecking West Brom or Stoke, we're one of the richest clubs in the world, it's time we looked like it on the pitch
What "hard-working" players has Jose signed? Its a myth. Every single one of Jose's signings have improved us straight away, bar maybe Lindelof.

Jose plays Lingard over Martial and Rashford because they are inconsistent. Yesterday Rashford comes on and beats the RB a couple of times, no end product. Goes through on goal, panics and misses. Takes several free kicks and corners, all dreadful. Whips a few crosses in, all poor. Yet the way people are talking, he put in a performance on par with Ronaldo 07/08. If we could have signed Griezmann as was the plan neither Lingard or Rashford would be playing and we would be all the better for it

Let me ask you (and all the armchair critics on this thread) - why do you think the papers and the broadcast media label Jose 'boring' and 'negative' when actually the stats don't back this up? Its because he is a serial winner and they need any kind of stick to beat him with!

Who do the media love? Pochettino - won nothing. Klopp - won nothing. Conte - lets see how they turn on him now he has that PL medal on his mantelpiece!
 

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There should be no excuses at all from now on. Mourinho has spent 300m on 6 players. If we are playing poorly with a spine of DeGea, Bailly, Matic, Pogba and Lukaku then it's down to the manager. He needs to get it right early doors or he won't last 15 months never mind 15 years.
We've played one competitive game with this spine ffs, against the only team ever to win consecutive champions league, who utterly smashed an extremely good Juventus side in the final... and we narrowly lost 2-1. Have some perspective people, please!
 

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What "hard-working" players has Jose signed? Its a myth. Every single one of Jose's signings have improved us straight away, bar maybe Lindelof.

Jose plays Lingard over Martial and Rashford because they are inconsistent. Yesterday Rashford comes on and beats the RB a couple of times, no end product. Goes through on goal, panics and misses. Takes several free kicks and corners, all dreadful. Whips a few crosses in, all poor. Yet the way people are talking, he put in a performance on par with Ronaldo 07/08. If we could have signed Griezmann as was the plan neither Lingard or Rashford would be playing and we would be all the better for it

Let me ask you (and all the armchair critics on this thread) - why do you think the papers and the broadcast media label Jose 'boring' and 'negative' when actually the stats don't back this up? Its because he is a serial winner and they need any kind of stick to beat him with!

Who do the media love? Pochettino - won nothing. Klopp - won nothing. Conte - lets see how they turn on him now he has that PL medal on his mantelpiece!
Yeah, Lingard is consistent alright, consistently shite. Even Jose agrees because he took him off at half time, like many times last season. And our second half was much better than the first. If you think Rashford coming in yesterday didn't improve us then there's no point. Jose is boring and negative, and a winner. The whole world did not dream it up. He did at Inter, Madrid and is doing it here. I remember an El Classico game when he was at Madrid where it looked like he had given instructions to his players not to cross into Barca's half, except Cristiano who vented his frustration after running around like a headless chicken all alone in the Barca half while the Barca players where doing triangles around him
 

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What "hard-working" players has Jose signed? Its a myth. Every single one of Jose's signings have improved us straight away, bar maybe Lindelof.

Jose plays Lingard over Martial and Rashford because they are inconsistent. Yesterday Rashford comes on and beats the RB a couple of times, no end product. Goes through on goal, panics and misses. Takes several free kicks and corners, all dreadful. Whips a few crosses in, all poor. Yet the way people are talking, he put in a performance on par with Ronaldo 07/08. If we could have signed Griezmann as was the plan neither Lingard or Rashford would be playing and we would be all the better for it

Let me ask you (and all the armchair critics on this thread) - why do you think the papers and the broadcast media label Jose 'boring' and 'negative' when actually the stats don't back this up? Its because he is a serial winner and they need any kind of stick to beat him with!

Who do the media love? Pochettino - won nothing. Klopp - won nothing. Conte - lets see how they turn on him now he has that PL medal on his mantelpiece!
While you do have three quite valid points in there, I must also say that Jose has a bit of a talent in asking players to track back, which is not that bad after all. However, I think that's a bit exaggerated from him. Some players look limited under his command, maybe too focused on the defensive part of the game. I'm not saying it's a bad thing, but against some teams, especially weaker teams, that's freaking outrageous.

I like the guy, I really do, he always acts using common sense and basic logic, but he needs to be a bit more offensive and understand this is man united and that we're used to a certain way, even if that's hard to accomplish now.
 

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Yeah, Lingard is consistent alright, consistently shite. Even Jose agrees because he took him off at half time, like many times last season. And our second half was much better than the first. If you think Rashford coming in yesterday didn't improve us then there's no point. Jose is boring and negative, and a winner. The whole world did not dream it up. He did at Inter, Madrid and is doing it here. I remember an El Classico game when he was at Madrid where it looked like he had given instructions to his players not to cross into Barca's half, except Cristiano who vented his frustration after running around like a headless chicken all alone in the Barca half while the Barca players where doing triangles around him
I don't rate Lingard either, but I can also see why Jose doesn't start Rashford and Martial.

I don't think Rashford coming on improved us either. I think what improved us was Real getting bored of toying with us and dropping down a gear.

It's amazing how we lose a game 2-1 against the best side in the world and we have a total meltdown. We should remove any posts mocking City or Liverpool while we have this thread open.
 

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What "hard-working" players has Jose signed? Its a myth. Every single one of Jose's signings have improved us straight away, bar maybe Lindelof.

Jose plays Lingard over Martial and Rashford because they are inconsistent. Yesterday Rashford comes on and beats the RB a couple of times, no end product. Goes through on goal, panics and misses. Takes several free kicks and corners, all dreadful. Whips a few crosses in, all poor. Yet the way people are talking, he put in a performance on par with Ronaldo 07/08. If we could have signed Griezmann as was the plan neither Lingard or Rashford would be playing and we would be all the better for it

Let me ask you (and all the armchair critics on this thread) - why do you think the papers and the broadcast media label Jose 'boring' and 'negative' when actually the stats don't back this up? Its because he is a serial winner and they need any kind of stick to beat him with!

Who do the media love? Pochettino - won nothing. Klopp - won nothing. Conte - lets see how they turn on him now he has that PL medal on his mantelpiece!
This made me cackle. I was a bit occupied when Rashers came on so missed most of his touches but I do appreciate that typical Rashford fan reaction
 

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What "hard-working" players has Jose signed? Its a myth. Every single one of Jose's signings have improved us straight away, bar maybe Lindelof.

Jose plays Lingard over Martial and Rashford because they are inconsistent. Yesterday Rashford comes on and beats the RB a couple of times, no end product. Goes through on goal, panics and misses. Takes several free kicks and corners, all dreadful. Whips a few crosses in, all poor. Yet the way people are talking, he put in a performance on par with Ronaldo 07/08. If we could have signed Griezmann as was the plan neither Lingard or Rashford would be playing and we would be all the better for it

Let me ask you (and all the armchair critics on this thread) - why do you think the papers and the broadcast media label Jose 'boring' and 'negative' when actually the stats don't back this up? Its because he is a serial winner and they need any kind of stick to beat him with!

Who do the media love? Pochettino - won nothing. Klopp - won nothing. Conte - lets see how they turn on him now he has that PL medal on his mantelpiece!
Mourinho best start backing up what he wants to deliver, because the evidence so far I don't see how we will win the PL. If we make the top 4 with our current attacking options, think of it has a relief, because we just don't have the firepower
 

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Mourinho best start backing up what he wants to deliver, because the evidence so far I don't see how we will win the PL. If we make the top 4 with our current attacking options, think of it has a relief, because we just don't have the firepower
Well I agree. We should be content with top 4 this season. What makes you think we should be expecting any higher? We have finished 7th, 4th, 5th and 6th - can't be a fluke can it!

We have signed three senior players, one of whom looks a longer term project. Lukaku replaces Zlatan and Matic replaces Carrick - I reckon 3rd would be a good return
 

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Well I agree. We should be content with top 4 this season. What makes you think we should be expecting any higher? We have finished 7th, 4th, 5th and 6th - can't be a fluke can it!

We have signed three senior players, one of whom looks a longer term project. Lukaku replaces Zlatan and Matic replaces Carrick - I reckon 3rd would be a good return
Our CB signing not totally sold on him this season, matic a very good tactical signing, and lukaku not convinced, especially when we just don't have enough out wide, or it looks has if Mourinho is not even attempting to say yeah lets try and get more out of martial, because we need cutting edge. If he thinks lingard is that option, we are in trouble. For me I think another CM signing to take herrera's place, or just give herrera stiff competition, and sign another LB. Mourinho is still on the fellaini train which did a job last season, this season was a way of going up another level. But my worry is him not doing that I worry Mourinho is not evolving but more of the same., and that for me is another painful top 4 finish. After our 6th place finish and just about winning EL and CC, I would be going out of my way to improve this team, and solve issues which apart from matic, nothing much has improved. I really think a CM, out wide and fullback area like LB was huge positions that need strengthening and given stiff competition, of matic, pogba, herrera and another. Hate to be negative, just realistic on what we saw from last season and what we got for this season, which the problems are still there
 
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I'll say it, unless we improve drastically in our attacking approach I don't want him longer than his contract. People will point to the trophies last season and yes I loved them both but we weren't even the dominant team in either final, and that was against Southampton and Ajax. Not exactly elite level competition. There's no way we'll win a big trophy with the way we currently play, total lack of movement and risk. This could all change and I hope to see much better performances throughout the season.
Agree with this. The Fellaini-ball garbage has to go. Hopefully we move past that this season.
 

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His record in transfers have been excellent. This season Lukaku and Matic look like exactly what we were missing last season. Hope he can get Perisic as well. In January, he may add Zlatan and even Griezman.

Next season we are going to add more world class players hopefully in the mould of Sanchez, Dembele, and the likes.

With this rate he is going, really hope he can stay with us for 15 years and not the usual 3 years!