The Trump Presidency | Biden Inaugurated

[Mike Schatner]

Just watched four Trump supporters being interviewed on CNN. They seemed pretty articulate, intelligent normal people. Bottom line is Trump is doing a great job, the Russia investigation is a witch hunt, the FBI is corrupt, the Dems are evil.

Watching it was like an out of body experience. I am obviously in an alternate reality to them. Quite depressing.

 

[berbatrick]

I really wish the Dems would get a lot more aggressive about the massive increase in debt he is putting the country in (hell team up with some of the remaining fiscal hawks on the republican side like Rand Paul) and make them understand why this is utterly irresponsible and stupid before he turns around with the very predictable narrative of "the Dems don't want better roads and bridges"

THat would make it harder to push *anything* positive, like single-payer, college, etc.

 

[Carolina Red]

Are we really dropping an extra $130 billion the next couple of years on the military?

But we can’t afford fecking universal healthcare or free college?

We already spend more than the rest of the fecking world combined on the defense budget.

 

[Florida Man]

Are we really dropping an extra $130 billion the next couple of years on the military?

But we can’t afford fecking universal healthcare or free college?

We already spend more than the rest of the fecking world combined on the defense budget.

Well how else are we going to afford to pay six figure salaries + traveling expenses for older men to test software built by other older men?

 

[Mike Schatner]

Are we really dropping an extra $130 billion the next couple of years on the military?

I think it is to make up for the $90 billion the DoD and Pentagon have mislaid. Makes perfect sense

 

[sglowrider]

I think it is to make up for the $90 billion the DoD and Pentagon have mislaid. Makes perfect sense

Billion is the new million. Meh!

Billion dollar toilet seat next.

 

[Organic Potatoes]

We have to raise the spending on the military otherwise the Marines would turn gay because of the frogs.

 

[Bobcat]

I hate having so little respect for someone who has so much power to do so much good, not only in his own country but around the entire world.

It is so depressing seeing not only the corruption and abuse but the disrespect for everyone and everything. The dangers are huge too and it's just so upsetting to think what has happened over the last 18 months/2 years or so.

Another huge disappointment is how spineless and vicious the Republicans are in equal measure. Spineless as in they just point blank refuse to stand up to Trump yet are vicious with their policies.

The supporters are also extremely depressing but they are like cult followers with Trump their leader.

The only up side I can find is that not only is this all exposing the worst members of society so they are easy to spot then avoid, it's also exposing the most corrupt and worst members of Government too. On both sides, but definitely mainly the Republicans and each nasty vicious Tweet Trump sends out or each country or leader he upsets, or abuses he defends, each time he does something like that he just makes more and more people determined to vote him and his pitiful band of Republican scum out of office.

Honestly, i believe the dark side of them has always been there, it's just that Trump is so boisterous and terrible himself they have become bold and don't have to hide their true colors any more. Hell, just Trumps relationship with the very concept of truth has made them untouchable in their own minds, since when they do get called out they can just run away and shout fake news.

 

[langster]

Honestly, i believe the dark side of them has always been there, it's just that Trump is so boisterous and terrible himself they have become bold and don't have to hide their true colors any more. Hell, just Trumps relationship with the very concept of truth has made them untouchable in their own minds, since when they do get called out they can just run away and shout fake news.

I completely agree. Although I like to think that Trump is also making them worse simply because they are following his lead and defending him as much as they are using him for their own agenda.

 

[Zlaatan]

Are we really dropping an extra $130 billion the next couple of years on the military?

But we can’t afford fecking universal healthcare or free college?

We already spend more than the rest of the fecking world combined on the defense budget.

Why is this a thing now, the military supposedly being underfunded? Have they gotten less money over the last years and have had to downsize or what's the deal?
(or is it just Trump being told by the people making money off of this that the funding needs to increase?)

 

[Rado_N]

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This is something that I would ordinarily say is a good idea, and a policy that makes sense.

Except he's just slashed taxes and massively increased spending on defense (for reasons passing understanding) at the same time, so all this will do is lead to an enormous increase in debt.

I guess he's used to bankrupting companies and walking away, so why not do it to the country.

 

[Rado_N]

Why is this a thing now, the military supposedly being underfunded? Have they gotten less money over the last years and have had to downsize or what's the deal?
(or is it just Trump being told by the people making money off of this that the funding needs to increase?)

Cashing in on the jingoism of the right.

Spend more on the military and you're a patriot, regardless of whether it's necessary or in any way makes sense.

As much as I appreciate the admiration the US has for its military personnel, it's an area where common sense isn't allowed to play a role.

 

[Billy Blaggs]

Honestly, i believe the dark side of them has always been there, it's just that Trump is so boisterous and terrible himself they have become bold and don't have to hide their true colors any more. Hell, just Trumps relationship with the very concept of truth has made them untouchable in their own minds, since when they do get called out they can just run away and shout fake news.

Bang on. I've said the same thing. Hess made this acceptable behavior and his staunchest supporters lover him for it.

 

[Nogbadthebad]

So there's talk of massively expanding the nuclear arsenal.

Trump voters have screwed the entire world.

 

[Silva]

So there's talk of massively expanding the nuclear arsenal.

Trump voters have screwed the entire world.

There are already enough nukes to wipe out humanity, this will make no noticeable difference to our potential doom. It's the militaries handling of nuclear weapons you should worry about, it's a minor miracle they haven't accidentally nuked anyone.

 

[Nogbadthebad]

There are already enough nukes to wipe out humanity, this will make no noticeable difference to our potential doom. It's the militaries handling of nuclear weapons you should worry about, it's a minor miracle they haven't accidentally nuked anyone.

Nope.

Its trump.

If hes buying fancy new nukes, you can guarantee he wants to use them.

 

[Santi_Mesut_Alexis_87]

This is something that I would ordinarily say is a good idea, and a policy that makes sense.

Except he's just slashed taxes and massively increased spending on defense (for reasons passing understanding) at the same time, so all this will do is lead to an enormous increase in debt.

I guess he's used to bankrupting companies and walking away, so why not do it to the country.

Good call. His career tells you this. Besides, the GOP has never cared about debt. Reagan did the same in the eighties.

 

[Mr Pigeon]

There are already enough nukes to wipe out humanity, this will make no noticeable difference to our potential doom. It's the militaries handling of nuclear weapons you should worry about, it's a minor miracle they haven't accidentally nuked anyone.

Because of him they now have to excavate, refine, install and then ultimately dispose of more hazardous materials. It was bad enough when he decided to say feck it to tackling climate change but now he's squeezing as much environmental damage as he can during his presidency. He acts like a child who just drops his litter on the floor.

 

[Silva]

Because of him they now have to excavate, refine, install and then ultimately dispose of more hazardous materials. It was bad enough when he decided to say feck it to tackling climate change but now he's squeezing as much environmental damage as he can during his presidency. He acts like a child who just drops his litter on the floor.

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[Cal?]

So there's talk of massively expanding the nuclear arsenal.

Trump voters have screwed the entire world.

I thought the US had enough nukes to wipe out the planet anyway, what's the point of getting more?

 

[Organic Potatoes]

I thought the US had enough nukes to wipe out the planet anyway, what's the point of getting more?

Unless you think they’d give it up entirely (which isn’t going to happen) the US nuclear arsenal was in dire need of modernization, and that was under way under Obama already. And the military in general is actually in need of reinforcement due to wastefulness of the massive sums it’s already privileged to.

What you really need to be worried about is not US military spending or its Cold War nuclear backlog, both of which were already exorbitant. It’s tactical nukes, and how that could shape a modern war instigated by despots.

 

[langster]

Because of him they now have to excavate, refine, install and then ultimately dispose of more hazardous materials. It was bad enough when he decided to say feck it to tackling climate change but now he's squeezing as much environmental damage as he can during his presidency. He acts like a child who just drops his litter on the floor.

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Check out the memes ffs. Trump has reversed global warming in his first year in office. These dangerous lunatics actually believe this shit. It's so depressing.

 

[The Firestarter]

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Check out the memes ffs. Trump has reversed global warming in his first year in office. These dangerous lunatics actually believe this shit. It's so depressing.

Don't you know when he passes gas it cancels out the CO2 molecules in the air. And when he pisses it realigns the Gulfstream current.

 

[langster]

Don't you know when he passes gas it cancels out the CO2 molecules in the air. And when he pisses it realigns the Gulfstream current.

Ugh!

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Oh, on top of this Trump has just reversed the transgender bathroom order. He's literally going to start fecking riots sooner or later. He just wants to divide an already divided country. Yet again attacking the Dems this morning. He only knows how to destroy, not how to build.

 

[The Firestarter]

Ugh!

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Oh, on top of this Trump has just reversed the transgender bathroom order. He's literally going to start fecking riots sooner or later. He just wants to divide an already divided country. Yet again attacking the Dems this morning. He only knows how to destroy, not how to build.

Yeah, forgot to mention when he takes a dump it goes directly to Twitter.

 

[langster]

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After all the upsetting news today here's some light humour. Although It's obviously not a surprise bit It's still damn funny.

 

[Mr Pigeon]

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After all the upsetting news today here's some light humour. Although It's obviously not a surprise bit It's still damn funny.

Probably “Jet fuel can’t melt steel beams” or some other mad shit.

 

[The Firestarter]

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After all the upsetting news today here's some light humour. Although It's obviously not a surprise bit It's still damn funny.

This guy begs to be pranked by some holographic Jesus, during some visit.

 

[Adisa]

Don't think it's a funny issue.
He could destroy the social fabric of that country beyond repair.

 

[onemanarmy]

Don't think it's a funny issue.
He could destroy the social fabric of that country beyond repair.

They elected him, knowing the damage he would do. I'm sad for those who didn't vote for him, but they have their fellow countrymen to thank for that.

 

[langster]

Don't think it's a funny issue.
He could destroy the social fabric of that country beyond repair.

Yeah obviously but if you can't laugh every now and then, then what is the point? Lighten up. We spend most of the time in this thread being serious. It needs breaking up every now and then, as I said, otherwise, what's the point?

It is dangerous that the Vice President believes Jesus tells him what to do and has chats with him, of course it is. At the same time though It's also bloody funny that he thinks Jesus actually talks to him.

 

[Nogbadthebad]

Yeah obviously but if you can't laugh every now and then, then what is the point? Lighten up. We spend most of the time in this thread being serious. It needs breaking up every now and then, as I said, otherwise, what's the point?

It is dangerous that the Vice President believes Jesus tells him what to do and has chats with him, of course it is. At the same time though It's also bloody funny that he thinks Jesus actually talks to him.

Its what such detachment from consequences enables that should be the concern.

If jesus tells him what to do, he can't be responsible for anything, ever,

So, when they launch one of those shiny new tactical nukes they have just ordered and a million people are wiped out, pence will just say gods will and that is that. The ensuing global war (because whether its korea or iran, that is the consequence) will not be his fault either.

These are genuine sociopaths in charge of the largest nuclear arsenal in the world, and are adding to it. There is no good outcome from this.

 

[Mike Schatner]

As bad as Trump is I would take another three years of him over Pence.

 

[Drifter]

Pence and Trump from the same pod as far as i'm concerned. Just hope the Dems are ready in 2020

 

[Barca84]

Its what such detachment from consequences enables that should be the concern.

If jesus tells him what to do, he can't be responsible for anything, ever,

So, when they launch one of those shiny new tactical nukes they have just ordered and a million people are wiped out, pence will just say gods will and that is that. The ensuing global war (because whether its korea or iran, that is the consequence) will not be his fault either.

These are genuine sociopaths in charge of the largest nuclear arsenal in the world, and are adding to it. There is no good outcome from this.

We have solid form to go on here in the UK with Blair's Christian crusade in Iraq.

 

[langster]

Its what such detachment from consequences enables that should be the concern.

If jesus tells him what to do, he can't be responsible for anything, ever,

So, when they launch one of those shiny new tactical nukes they have just ordered and a million people are wiped out, pence will just say gods will and that is that. The ensuing global war (because whether its korea or iran, that is the consequence) will not be his fault either.

These are genuine sociopaths in charge of the largest nuclear arsenal in the world, and are adding to it. There is no good outcome from this.

That is beside the point really. It's also nothing new at all. Bush used God so did his dad before him, even Obama used the defence. It's the go to excuse for all religious leaders nd has to be mentioned by US leaders to keep large parts of the electorate happy. Ironically It's usually the religious voters who want war. However, It's no better or worse then the arrogant war to promote the American way or promoting freedom in the world. War is bad and should always be the last resort, but we all know that's no true.

What's worse? Starting a war because Jesus told him to? Or because of lies about weapons of mass destruction?

What is worrying is Trump has said multiple times in private about using nukes and has a war memo regarding tactical first strikes against North Korea and Iran. I have no doubt he will try his hardest to start a war if the pressure on him mounts much more. He's already tried his hardest to provoke one with North Korea.

 

[afrocentricity]

Well for a guy who sees any attention as good attention, going down in history as the president that nuked A and wiped out B may actually appeal to him.

 

[langster]

Wow! This is insane. The man is literally crippling the USA. Tax cuts will reduce the deficit Yeah, how does that work? It just doesn't at all. Love how Republicans and Trump care about the deficit when the Dems are in the White House, they seem to be quiet on the issue now though, ironically when they really should be shouting from the rafters.

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[Raoul]

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[langster]

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Wow good for him. Sincerely. Although is that because he's trying to get back in his wifes good books?

I was actually impressed with him on Bill Maher Real Time the other week. Might not have agreed with him all the time but he was very smart and articulate and he made the guy attacking him look like an idiot even though what he was saying was right.