Shane88
Actually Nostradamus
Speaking like a guy who doesn't care who he pisses off because he's gone at the end of the season.
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Good question.A new attacking coach? Do you have an "attacking coach" now? Does any top level club in Europe have an attacking coach?
Yes and it’s with the owners.Since Fergie, Moyes tried the job and lost. LVG with his great resume , tried to bring success and lost. Mourinho, having managed some of the biggest clubs in the world is trying and its not clicking. If these many managers couldn't do it, what is the guarantee the next one would? At what point do we start looking past the managers into the players? There's something fundamentally wrong with our club.
You are completely right. You have players that don't perform for 4 years but well, management fault. clap clap clap.There are players who aren’t performing but as with LVG and Moyes the management isn’t good enough.
Do we look inspired? He is turning Chelsea v2.0 all to quickly .. New contract extension , bad results and attacking the players.. How long will Utd give him? Even after winning the CL the year before Russian Abe didn't hesitate.. Let him finish, try to win the FA Cup and get someone who could entertain us in the summer .. This is getting ridiculous I just dont see him win the fans or the players back..That's a really dangerous game he is playing, one hell of a risk.
It either actually inspires the team and the players with a good finish to the season, or it completely collapses like it did at Madrid and Chelsea.
Not far away from his 2015 quote after the Leicester defeat "I feel that my work was betrayed".Fecking hell thats pretty damming
Never heard of Torren and to my mind Arteta played decently for Everton but never high classGood question.
I think I would just like a more inspiring coach to be part of the team, we have Rui Faria who came from a fitness background, Carlos Lalin who specialises in fitness, Silvino Louro and Emilio Alvarez who work with the goalkeepers. Not a single coach including our manager with outfield experience.
Compare it to City who have Arteta, Pep, Domenec Torren who all played the game at a high level.
I know people will think this is a stupid post and will probably point out our backroom staff in 08/09 etc but I am just looking for solutions and how we can improve as the game is moving on and I sometimes question if Jose is being left behind.
Not really.Speaking like a guy who doesn't care who he pisses off because he's gone at the end of the season.
Well a couple of players stabbed him in the back.Not far away from his 2015 quote after the Leicester defeat "I feel that my work was betrayed".
What a crock. The Mourinho way they're not buying into is to work during the game, they'd rather ponce around. That's on them.The players aren't buying in to his ways. That's on him.
Was also playing for Arsenal when they were semi decentNever heard of Torren and to my mind Arteta played decently for Everton but never high class
Lukaku and matic are the only ones off of the top of my head who have considerably improved in desire since then.It's not just today, they've been hiding since December when we went through that poor patch.
Took Jose a while but finally he comes out and says it like it is. I back him on this one, about time the players deserved it for the shit they have served up in 2018.
That’s on them.The players aren't buying in to his ways. That's on him.
He is at least as much to blame as the players. His tactics are negative, there is a willingness to let opposition have the ball without any pressure and lack of creativity and movement going forward.
This. It’s a bit of a gamble, but I actually think this is a battle he can win. Look at Lukaku’s comments about incoming players in the summer.I like how he openly talked about working on a faster build up, he’s going all out now no fecks given mode. Let’s see if the players can take it because if they can’t theyll be spending time on the bench.
But someone has to and he didn’t pick anyone to do it so he can’t really complain. No point asking people to do things that can’t do, he needs to recognise strengths and weaknesses of players and find way to get best out of them. He isn’t doing that and is then pointing finger at everyone else, the players aren’t blameless, far from it, but he needs to look at himself as much as anything else.@Roboc7
Jose doesn't have his centrebacks play out but I see the criticism as not even trying to implement the tactics Jose set out.
Jose has often praised the side if they were trying and failing so he can't even be seen as being inconsistent here.
Lukaku stands out like a sore thumb for a reason and its not down to playing like Messi.
A long way from high class. Hey I’m not getting into a battle of semantics here.Was also playing for Arsenal when they were semi decent
Mourinho's main job is to prepare the players if they are not prepared that is on him.That’s on them.
The manager has to coach that movement. It is his fecking job.You are completely right. You have players that don't perform for 4 years but well, management fault. clap clap clap.
You are defending players that on paper are great, but on paper. Martial most of the time is missing. Could he be one of the greatest players. He could, does he want it to? don't know?
Shaw the same. I know, he broke hes leg and it's hard to recover. Should he stay because of that?
Lingards inconsistency is well known, for example.
And he is right, players are hiding. Players cant make easy passes because most of the player movement without the ball isn't happening. United can't be an attacking phenomenon if it's impossible to do 10 passes in a row. On tv and here they talked alot about that mata/martial short passes connection that happened like it was something so great and it was simply utter shit. Bad passes over and over, that ball was mistreated there but everyone was really happy with that play.
That's were you want to have someone that tells them:" The manager will be out and you will be just behind."There have been issues with complacency, and technical ability, for years. Now we have an issue with players sulking if they aren't selected yet underwhelming when they are chosen.
Funny, he changes the team, they still pass like shit. He tells Shaw to attack and he sits back. That’s on the playersMourinho's main job is to prepare the players if they are not prepared that is on him.
I wouldn't be surprised if he starts booing them during next game, the way this is going.
If he prepares them and they hide all game is it on them or still on him?Mourinho's main job is to prepare the players if they are not prepared that is on him.
The manager can coach whatever he wants, and he said he did the players simply didn't want to move. If that is on their personality there's nothing you can do to rescue them. Easy has that. Just let them drownThe manager has to coach that movement. It is his fecking job.
Than his instructions were not clear enough, or he did not put out the right lineup,etc.If he prepares them and they hide all game is it on them or still on him?
What exactly do you think a manager's job is.The manager can coach whatever he wants, and he said he did the players simply didn't want to move. If that is on their personality there's nothing you can do to rescue them. Easy has that. Just let them drown
His job isn't to change the team, you and I can do that. His job, his value as a football manager is in his ability to teach and mobilize players.Funny, he changes the team, they still pass like shit. He tells Shaw to attack and he sits back. That’s on the players
I don't think Mourinho is blameless at all but you do realize that what you're saying means players are always gonna escape blame ?Mourinho's main job is to prepare the players if they are not prepared that is on him.
Put yourself in his shoes. His job is to get results for the club. He won't get that if players don't follow his instruction or don't put in the effort. His two choices are to do nothing and fail with a whimper, or to give the players an ultimatum and force the board to pick a side. He's choosing not to go down without a fight.Speaking like a guy who doesn't care who he pisses off because he's gone at the end of the season.
I don't think he gave them the instructions to hide from the ball or squander simple passes.Than his instructions were not clear enough, or he did not put out the right lineup,etc.
Damning but needed to be said.
Mourinho is known bullshitter. We never had good movement from our players for almost majority of the time under Mourinho, why is he suddenly harping about that? Almost all criticisms of us under Mourinho has been about the lack of movement.The manager can coach whatever he wants, and he said he did the players simply didn't want to move. If that is on their personality there's nothing you can do to rescue them. Easy has that. Just let them drown
Really? Do you think our players are so stupid that they can't move to get open for a pass? That someone has to explain it to them? Remember, these are players that are starting for Man Utd in the PL and presumably played somewhere for someone before.The manager has to coach that movement. It is his fecking job.