Tuchel turns down Bayern| German media speculating about PSG/Arsenal

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He's not coming to Arsenal. They practically came to blows while at Dortmund. Arsenal wouldn't get Mislintat and then foist Tuchel on him after six months. You can almost see Mislintat go, "what?! Not you again" if that happened.
 

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Hope its us. Perfect fit for us. Get rid of our mediocre manager and his dinosaur tactics and bring in someone who fits our philosophies (develop talent, play attacking football, and spend tons of money). Him and Poch are the two guys who could take us back to relevance (assuming Pep would never be available)
 

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Kicker or Bild? One is suggesting Arsenal and the other PSG. Which is more reliable?
Usually Bild has the best sources inside Bayern, but kicker normally do not partake in rumor mongering, most of the time they write about stuff once it's official. Very unusual situation atm.
 

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Because he got more money. Funny Sanchez was accused of joining United for money when in reality it was ozil who stayed because of money.
Yes but that doesn't sell papers because it has nothing to do with United. You silly sausage.
 

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Well, what has he done exactly? Think he's overrated, imo.

Hoeneß' return hasn't exactly been a blessing for Bayern.
What has he 'done'? I don't know, do you follow Bundesliga? Then you know just as well as anyone what he has done.

Second greatest Austrian coach out there. After Stöger of course.
 

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Hope its us. Perfect fit for us. Get rid of our mediocre manager and his dinosaur tactics and bring in someone who fits our philosophies (develop talent, play attacking football, and spend tons of money). Him and Poch are the two guys who could take us back to relevance (assuming Pep would never be available)
Unfortunately for us we’re stuck for another year and as history shows we have no courage to act proactively since we have no long term plan in place.
 

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Hope its us. Perfect fit for us. Get rid of our mediocre manager and his dinosaur tactics and bring in someone who fits our philosophies (develop talent, play attacking football, and spend tons of money). Him and Poch are the two guys who could take us back to relevance (assuming Pep would never be available)
:lol:
 

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It's not an outrageous statement to make. Infact its a bit worrying. What does it say about Jose when the team is on course for its highest league finish since SAF retired but some fans are so concerned with the style of play to the extent that managers like Tuchel and Jardim become more attractive propositions? Managers who haven't many trophies in their careers. It doesn't reflect well on Mourinho tbf. I've heard some fans even say they'd rather go without any trophies for the next 2/3 years as long as we improve style of play and start playing positively. That's where some people are at. I'm not Mourinho out for the record just a little concerned but still have faith that with an another window perhaps things will change. However If we're still playing like this next season I'm on that train. No excuses with the money spent we can be doing a lot better.
 

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What has he 'done'? I don't know, do you follow Bundesliga? Then you know just as well as anyone what he has done.

Second greatest Austrian coach out there. After Stöger of course.
What would Bayern do with Hasenhüttl? I wouldn't exactly associate Leipzig with dominant, or well organized/executed positional play. And even with we are understanding about his group stage exit in the CL (lots of teams/coaches failed in their first year after all) he's only still in the CL race, because Bayern didn't take the match vs Leipzig too seriously. People talkt a lot of shit about Stöger, and most of it is completely justified, but he's actually outperforming Leipzig by 5 points since the winter break.
In other words I think it would be great for the league if Bayern went for him.
 

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It's not an outrageous statement to make. Infact its a bit worrying. What does it say about Jose when the team is on course for its highest league finish since SAF retired but some fans are so concerned with the style of play to the extent that managers like Tuchel and Jardim become more attractive propositions? Managers who haven't many trophies in their careers. It doesn't reflect well on Mourinho tbf. I've heard some fans even say they'd rather go without any trophies for the next 2/3 years as long as we improve style of play and start playing positively. That's where some people are at. I'm not Mourinho out for the record just a little concerned but still have faith that with an another window perhaps things will change. However If we're still playing like this next season I'm on that train. No excuses with the money spent we can be doing a lot better.
Nutters.

Either way, the main thing I found funny was the «I hope it’s us». Woodward has obviously not made an agreement with Tuchel two months after extending with Mourinho - no point hoping for the impossible.
 

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It's not an outrageous statement to make. Infact its a bit worrying. What does it say about Jose when the team is on course for its highest league finish since SAF retired but some fans are so concerned with the style of play to the extent that managers like Tuchel and Jardim become more attractive propositions? Managers who haven't many trophies in their careers. It doesn't reflect well on Mourinho tbf. I've heard some fans even say they'd rather go without any trophies for the next 2/3 years as long as we improve style of play and start playing positively. That's where some people are at. I'm not Mourinho out for the record just a little concerned but still have faith that with an another window perhaps things will change. However If we're still playing like this next season I'm on that train. No excuses with the money spent we can be doing a lot better.
What does it say? That the modern day fan is a moron, basically.
 

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Nutters.

Either way, the main thing I found funny was the «I hope it’s us». Woodward has obviously not made an agreement with Tuchel two months after extending with Mourinho - no point hoping for the impossible.
Yeah no way Mourinho is going this summer. Even if we don't win FA Cup hes not going to be sacked. Its a bit worrying that potential successors are on the market though and in the case things implode next season like Chelsea final year we might be left short of options. I'm already feeling nervous for what might be coming next season but I hope I'm wrong.
 

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What does it say? That the modern day fan is a moron, basically.
Or that the modern fan is evolving with the times and understands that long term that is the best way to produce stylish but also winning football. Better that than remain a relic of the past with backwards opinions getting further and further away from success.

Look at all of Europes top sides and forget about Liverpool and Spurs for a moment (both of whom have much smaller budgets than us for that matter). How many teams out there play the way we do at the elite level? How many of the top national sides play as pragmatically as a Mourinho side or are as careless with the ball?

Don't think they're the morons personally.
 

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Yeah no way Mourinho is going this summer. Even if we don't win FA Cup hes not going to be sacked. Its a bit worrying that potential successors are on the market though and in the case things implode next season like Chelsea final year we might be left short of options. I'm already feeling nervous for what might be coming next season but I hope I'm wrong.
And who are these if you don't mind me asking?
 

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Can we not make every thread a Jose thread on here, guys?
 

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And who are these if you don't mind me asking?
Ancelotti, Tuchel, Jardim, Enrique to name a few. It's important to keep your eyes on any movements and always to plan ahead. Things need to be put in place so that we are clear on which profile of manager is best placed to take the club forward. Mourinho has never spent more than 3 seasons at any club. We are already in season 2. You would be foolish to think that he'll be here 4/5 years from now. Looking to the future is not a crime. He's done a good job (not great) so far but there are still doubts about whether he's the mmanager that win can PL titles and challenge for CL again.
 

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Not sure why you'd reject Bayern to go Everton if it's true he was offered the job. PSG is a big step IMO and they usually target more established managers.. they took a risk with Emery but I reckon they'll go for someone more experienced of working at a big big club. I reckon they'll go for Conte unless he takes on Italy which could make Tuchel more plausible in that case.

If not Arsenal (which would be ideal for him) .. Chelsea could be a interesting but very dangerous project. Wouldn't stay for long but it would give him a taste of the premiership with a decent budget behind him and it could be Romans first ever Barcaesque apppointment where he allows free flowing football to have free reign.

Enrique has been heavily courted though and IMO made more sense for them in terms of profile - experienced and ex Barca, plus quite pragmatic.

Logically you'd have to go for Arsenal in terms of fit but yeah interesting to see if he can live up to the hype.
 

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Evolving with the times, which means chopping and changing managers every time you see a single miniscule fault with the current one's tactical style.
Yeah because there's only been minuscule faults seen from a tactical perspective all season. Anyway not the thread to discuss it in.
 

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Yeah because there's only been minuscule faults seen from a tactical perspective all season. Anyway not the thread to discuss it in.
We are 2nd. The highest we have been since Fergie retired nearly 5 years ago.
 

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Ancelotti, Tuchel, Jardim, Enrique to name a few. It's important to keep your eyes on any movements and always to plan ahead. Things need to be put in place so that we are clear on which profile of manager is best placed to take the club forward. Mourinho has never spent more than 3 seasons at any club. We are already in season 2. You would be foolish to think that he'll be here 4/5 years from now. Looking to the future is not a crime. He's done a good job (not great) so far but there are still doubts about whether he's the mmanager that win can PL titles and challenge for CL again.
Doesn’t exactly have a stellar record in terms of league titles.
 

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Doesn’t exactly have a stellar record in terms of league titles.
Mourinho has a very good record of winning titles but he isn't guaranteed anything right now. There are no guarantees really in football. Any one of those managers could come here and do well but anyone of them can do bad as well. Ancelotti hasn't got many league titles but he knows the PL well and I don't think German football suits his style of management anyway. He wasn't a good fit for Bayern Munich but he's one option. Not my preferred option though.
 

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What has he 'done'? I don't know, do you follow Bundesliga? Then you know just as well as anyone what he has done.

Second greatest Austrian coach out there. After Stöger of course.
Well, I don’t think he fits Bayern. No experience at a big club & somehow he himself doesn’t feel like he‘s ready (according to sources in Germany).

Your second paragraph is funny. Love a bit of humor.
 

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Now Falk confirmed, that Tuchel had negotiations with Paris two weeks ago in fluid french.
Will be interesting to see, how he can work with players like Neymar.
 

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The deal seems to be done so that's quite an interesting move... Asking myself if it's got something to do with Hoeness wanting that Jupp stays or just a wish to see something else after the Buli.
In that case, it'll probably be more PL than PSG. I don't very see the point of say no to Bayern to take PSG. Plus he may have a too strong character for the players and the direction of PSG. Kind of stubborn. So it seems to be good news for Arsenal.

Having watched his 2 seasons with BvB, he is a very good manager, same group of Poch, Marcelino or maybe Jardim. Attached to his philosophy more than trophies and the 3 pts. Really like his search of perfection and way of playing: not just a poor possession copy of Pep.

He is also a good choice for a long-term paternship, could have probably stay a long time at dortmund if the club was more ambitious and receptive.
The perfect man to take back the new challenge of Arsenal. The "new" up front line is already there (do not remember his relation with Mhki and Auba) and with some changes in defence and midfield, they could actually looking again for the top 4, The last moves are not helpfull enough to look for more (Lacazette, Auba). Finally, he is a good tutor, could help some players improving in tactics and their abilities
 
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Why will we want someone like Tuchel or Jardim. I just done understand. Yes, we all want us to play better football and improve, but some just want us to become the new Liverpool/Spurs/Arsenal so much that these names are their pinnacle of choices once Mourinho leaves ? And some convince themselves that adding more money will change these manager to trophy winners consistently is even more baffling.

You know what you're getting when you sign a manager. We know that getting Mourinho means we will be a pragmatic counter attacking and physical team. Getting the likes of Jardim or Tuchel will also mean that we're loving the Liverpool project of finishing 3rd-4th each season, scoring loads and winning feck all. You expect what you're getting from each manager based on their career and nothing are going to change that. If some really love the Liverpool and Spurs project and want us to emulate them, so be it.

If Tuchel goes to PSG, I expect him to win the piss easy league but he'll be exposed easily in CL just like Emery and Blanc who are both average managers at this top level.
 

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Now Falk confirmed, that Tuchel had negotiations with Paris two weeks ago in fluid french.
Will be interesting to see, how he can work with players like Neymar.
I am interested to see how Verratti, Rabiot and Lo Celso develop under him. Especially Verratti since he has stagnated over the years.