Abdelhak Nouri | family say he can answer yes/no questions by moving his eyebrows
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Really tragic news.
This is some fecked up shite right here. Hope he can recover somehow.
They say it is really bad - he cannot move or anything , neither recognizes his family , damn . 
I've never seen him play but I haven't been able to stop thinking about the lad, just such a terrible thing to happen. Blind and Fosu Mensah looked really downbeat in their interviews with MUTV.
His mother crying
The things is that he is/was not only a huge talent, but also is a kid of the club. Is at Ajax since he was seven and loved throughout the club. He also is an example for the Moroccan youth.
Look at this post from TFM from a few minutes ago.
twitter.com/tfosumensah/status/886225544127414273
(sorry, still can't post links. Newbie-loser)
The videos....the sheer agony and heartbreak on the face of his parents.
Like others have said...I knew nothing about him and I don't think I've ever seen him play but his situation has really gotten to me.
Like others have said...I knew nothing about him and I don't think I've ever seen him play but his situation has really gotten to me.
Here's the link posted above.
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Read interview with his brother saying doctors think that he has no chance to recover. Even if he were to wake up, he would not be able to think, eat, speak or recognize people. That's even worse than I thought it was going to be.
For those of you wondering, there has been no update since the small interview I put online earlier with Nouri's brother, saying Nouri is basically (semi-)braindead.
I just came back from my holiday with some friends. Although I tried to be positive, partly for my own good, partly for the good of my travelmates, Appie kept coming back in my head. Still can't really believe what has happened. All I can do now is watching clips of him in his better days. Reading this thread I realized many have not seen him play and therefore I have included in this post a short clip of Appie's trademark (brilliant passing) so you all (can) know a bit of his play and a tribute to him Meanwhile, I will probably be thinking about how everything in life is this perishable.
If wished for, I can translate what he says in the last clip.
I just came back from my holiday with some friends. Although I tried to be positive, partly for my own good, partly for the good of my travelmates, Appie kept coming back in my head. Still can't really believe what has happened. All I can do now is watching clips of him in his better days. Reading this thread I realized many have not seen him play and therefore I have included in this post a short clip of Appie's trademark (brilliant passing) so you all (can) know a bit of his play and a tribute to him Meanwhile, I will probably be thinking about how everything in life is this perishable.
If wished for, I can translate what he says in the last clip.
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incredibly sad
do the doctors know what happened?
do the doctors know what happened?
Almost one week after the fatal news, and I'm still numb inside. It pains me to realize that i'm slowly adjusting to the thought of never getting to see Appie anymore. His football will be dearly missed by Ajax fans especially, as he was deemed to be a future worldstar by most Ajax fans i know. However, that's definitely not the worst thing.
Worse is losing the most joyous, humble, polite, loveable little character from the Ajax family. Appie loved Ajax and Ajax loved Appie. Seeing the images of the mass gettogether in front of his house last friday, organised by Ajax fanatics F-Side, was painful and heartwarming at the same time. Painful to see the cries of despair of his family, heartwarming to see the sense of unity caused by this whole incident. Feyenoord and Ajax fans side by side, black and white, muslim and christian. At least Appie achieved that in his short life and I feel a sense of martyrdom developing around our little Appie.
This whole season will be wasted on me, as I will compare every succes and every failure Ajax will have to what happened in this past week and all will seem irrelevant. Goodbye you little giant.
Worse is losing the most joyous, humble, polite, loveable little character from the Ajax family. Appie loved Ajax and Ajax loved Appie. Seeing the images of the mass gettogether in front of his house last friday, organised by Ajax fanatics F-Side, was painful and heartwarming at the same time. Painful to see the cries of despair of his family, heartwarming to see the sense of unity caused by this whole incident. Feyenoord and Ajax fans side by side, black and white, muslim and christian. At least Appie achieved that in his short life and I feel a sense of martyrdom developing around our little Appie.
This whole season will be wasted on me, as I will compare every succes and every failure Ajax will have to what happened in this past week and all will seem irrelevant. Goodbye you little giant.
Sorry mate, so sorry.
Feel for you all. And we are all bitching about transfers.
Sympathies to all affected closely by this.
Sympathies to all affected closely by this.
Really terrible thing to happen to one so young. If we look past the tragedy for a moment, it says a lot that one so young is being spoken of, so fondly and by so many.
Deepest sympathies to those in his immediate circle and hoping for a miracle for him despite the doctor's diagnosis.
Deepest sympathies to those in his immediate circle and hoping for a miracle for him despite the doctor's diagnosis.
From a medical point of view there are a good number of other things to consider - hindsight is always 20/20, and the team may be criticised for not jumping on the chest immediately.
Firstly, you can't start CPR until they've had full cardiopulmonary arrest. He was still breathing away, yes he looked shattered, but in a young, fit footballer who's previously well you'd rarely think 'Must be a heart attack'. He could be hypoglycaemic, that needs to be checked, he may just have low blood pressure, that needs to be checked, is he asthmatic? All sorts of other vitals need to be assessed before launching into chest compressions.
Assumptions can't be made about the quality of care he received on the pitch just from the video, I'm sure he received appropriate medical attention based on the situation present. The fact that he is still with us, in itself, is borderline miraculous. Out of hospital arrests carry a terrible prognosis, even with prompt medical attention. Cardiac arrests in general carry awful outcomes, even in hospital. With regards his neurological state, it's not surprising that this is the case, while CPR helps, it's often not enough to sufficiently oxygenate the brain sadly.
It's a tragedy what happened, and the case of Fabrice Muamba may be brought up - he was truly miraculous. I hope he regains some function, but I'd be guarded on his prognosis certainly. Poor guy.
For me, it raises the question of medicals for clubs. Do these include echocardiograms to assess the structure of the heart? I'm aware that Italian children are screened prior to starting PE in school as the mediterranean ethnicity is prone to 'Hypertrophic Cardiomyopathy' (just enlarging of the heart, in particular the septum between the ventricles) where essentially during strenuous activity, blood flow out of the heart is restricted to the point it can't oxygenate itself - boom, cardiac arrest. Does anyone know if they get ECHOs prior to starting for a club? I know it wouldn't pick up all cases, but it's a cheap and easy test to do.
Small update: Nouri has left the intensive care. He is now in the 'medium care' department. He can breath without help now.
News saying he isn't kept asleep anymore for some days now.
News saying he isn't kept asleep anymore for some days now.
Thanks for keeping us informed.
I'm pretty sure all the top professional clubs do echocardiograms on players now. UEFA and FIFA require it ahead of major tournaments, and a lot of big clubs do it routinely. I would have thought the Ajax academy would have done it, but either way, you sound like you know enough about them to know there are still things even stress echos cannot pickup. No amount of imaging can rule out everything.
Promising stuff. Hopefully they can bring him back somehow (as a person)
http://www.ajax.nl/streams/ajax-actueel/update-situatie-abdelhak-nouri-1.htm
Update as of 23 October said:
Heartbreaking stuff....
Thanks for sharing, Sjaak.
What an amazing read, genuinely brought me close to tears at times...
Wow - thanks for sharing that.
Having to wipe away a tear at my desk now.........
Having to wipe away a tear at my desk now.........
Thanks for sharing. That was a very moving read.
Well never know the heights his career would had reached. Some things are so difficult to understand why they happen. It doesnt matter if you are an atheist or a christian like me etc, the same feeling of despair every now and then hits you with all these unfair things that happen from time to time
Well never know the heights his career would had reached. Some things are so difficult to understand why they happen. It doesnt matter if you are an atheist or a christian like me etc, the same feeling of despair every now and then hits you with all these unfair things that happen from time to time
Heartbreaking that he'll never fulfil his potential but, more importantly, he'll never get to live his life and his family and friends have been denied that close relationship. Such a shame.
Poor boy, because he is only a boy.
Hard to read stuff like that...
Have to say though, from what I've seen, Ajax fans have been amazing in this situation.
Hell, dutch people in general seem amazing from my 3 visits over there.
Have to say though, from what I've seen, Ajax fans have been amazing in this situation.
Hell, dutch people in general seem amazing from my 3 visits over there.
Such a shame to read he'd had something similar a few months before and it wasn't really followed up on. The family will always wonder what if.
We get upset by lack of results and such, but at the end of the day life is more important than anything.
Poor kid. Heartbreaking..
Poor kid. Heartbreaking..
God help him and his family
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Damn. That whole episode is so sad for all the football fans. If he had a heart condition but he was cleared to play means the chances that what happened actually happened were minimal. Im with the club on this one though, if they effectivelly informed the player and he was told that his condition had minimal chance of a complication, then it was the player responsability to keep going with his professional sport career.
I still think that it looks like the CPR started a little late though, but i dont know what happened in the very scene.
Stay strong Noury
I still think that it looks like the CPR started a little late though, but i dont know what happened in the very scene.
Stay strong Noury
That poor lad, really is a heartbreaking situation
Unfortunately it looks like he is in a persistent vegetative state. Minimal chance of recovery.