Most passing touchdowns in a season by a rookie: 26 (tied with Peyton Manning)
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You could have said that from the get go!
I think that's fair.You could have said that from the get go!
I think there are too many holes on that roster in general and he hasn't been helped by the coaching staff IMO. I've said this before, but since their loss to the Patriots, it felt like they were their own worst enemy. What's your team?
I still think I fear Wilson (and Hawks) less than I used to 3 years before.
The Patriots fan brings some sense to the chatter chatter, for shame Edgar.
Who would you take at each of the first 10 picks if you were the GMs in question?
The podcasts I've listened to are saying the same. With Mayfield being far and away the best QB. You just need to look at last year's draft to see that taking a RB early is an idiotic idea.
Is this what you think will happen or should happen ?
I'd be happy with that, Mayfield looks like a player.
I can't see the Broncos losing in any scenario. If the Browns choose Darnold or Allen at #1 then its almost a certainty that Rosen or Mayfield are available at 5.
Really? You don't have Barkley in the top 10??
That's got to do with positional value. Who were the best rookie RBs last year?
I wouldn't take any running back since Barry Sanders in the top 10
Would that not be impacted by your existing roster strengths?
You mean if my team really needed a running back? Still no, you can get one later in the draft
Where would the PTSD come from ?
I was referring to Eboue btw. Maybe the Lions got burned by a hyped high pick on an RB? I don't know personally.
He's by far my favourite QB, but I watch feck all college football nowadays so doesn't mean much.
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I more meant if you were stacked elsewhere but fair enough.
He's not. Analytics are actually showing that the RB position isn't as valuable. Cornerbacks, safeties, defensive ends, defensive tackles (who can rush the passer), offensive tackles, interior linemen and wide receiver all impact the passing game more, which is ultimately how you win football games. Barkley's biggest value comes from him being a great receiver, similar to Alvin Kamara.
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It's not hate, it's just logical. Seahawks are a good example again. Alex Collins was a fifth round pick for the Seahawks in 2016, who accomplished very little playing for them, since he was stuck behind a terrible o-line. He got cut, since he was the worst RB on their roster in 2017. All of their other RBs did better than Collins. McKissic, Prosise, M. Davis and Carson. It wasn't a bad coaching or roster decision to cut him. Carson actually was close to being mister irrelevant and he was up until his injury the RB, who looked the best behind a terrible line. Collins got signed by the Ravens and suddenly became a factor, because he was playing with a competent line. Point is that offenvise linemen are far more valuable than running backs. Duane Brown immediately helped the Seahawks line to get better and they were less awful.
Lynch was drafted by the Bills did so well they drafted another running back top 10 in his third year. Teams cannot evaluate running backs well enough to justify the risks of taking them in the first round.
I actually liked Collins and so did the Seahawks probably, but he was their worst RB on the roster and they invested too much in Lacy. Put Carson, McKissic, a healthy Prosise or Mike Davis into the Ravens system and they are most likely doing better, since they are simply better RBs.
1. Kicker and Punter aren't anywhere as pivotal as RB. There is no shortage of good kickers who make a majority of their kicks.The one starter thing is meaningless. There is only one starter at kicker and punter and fullback and tight end. Doesn't make those positions more or less valuable. Plus many teams give significant carries to multiple running backs.
As for establishing a running game, you are still living in the 90s. The league has changed. The Patriots have built a dynasty around using their cap and draft resources at other positions. In the Belichick era they used two first round picks on running backs, picks 18 and 21, who combined for 39 AV.
Teams are passing more and rushing less
And there is a clear correlation between passing and winning that doesn't exist for rushing.
Due to draft guarantees, running backs drafted in the first round get outsized contracts compared their position peers and that is unique among nfl positions.
http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...ng-back-round-1-better-awesome-2017-nfl-draft
From that same article, here is the difference between round 1 and round 2 running backs.
1. Running is less important than ever to winning
2. Running backs drafted in the first round get disproportionate contracts compared to their peers in later rounds.
3. The top performing running backs are usually not picked in the first round.
So if you dont need them as much anymore, you cant identify on draft day which ones will perform best and there is an added cost for drafting them in the first round, it doesn't make sense to do it.
Never mind the team. He is a 10,000 yard rusher who contributed to multiple super bowl appearances.
