YES! then, we can get Griezman or Bale! haha
Didn’t Rashford always get he nod ahead of him anyway. If anything Sanchez took Rashford a spot more often.He’s kicked up a fuss at the end of the season having just missed out on the World Cup. He’s lost that place because Sanchez took his place in the side even though Sanchez was playing rubbish as well.
His agent is doing his job and trying to get a better contract. I hate the parasites buts he’s doing his job.
I would think United are offering him more to stay anyway but his agent wants more.OK, so let's say Spurs offer him £80k per week, coupled with the very generous bonus system we offer. I still haven't been told which CL clubs would offer him more.
Not true, but still easily a better ratio than Sanchez.So long, don't let the door hit you on the way out. For every one good game he had there were 4 or 5 bad ones.
So Woodward just went behind Mourinho's back and brought in a player he didn't really want? Where did you read this?Why do people keep attributing Sanchez's purchase with Mourinho when he has stated that he was not involved in buying Sanchez? He has said that he agreed with the getting him due to the player's qualities but Mourinho was not involved buying Sanchez!!!
That aside it hasn't really been proven to be a mistake unless we are now judging people after 5 months and no preseason. If he fails next year...fine, it was a mistake but at the moment it's still smart business.
He would have got rid of him much earlier for bad Work Ethic and attitude, big time Charlie too big for their boots entitlement ala Ravel Morrison and Pogba.
Its closer to being a mistake than success. And it's definitely not smart business currently .If I remember correctly we bought Sanchez to help us mount a challenge on the CL. That's the feeling we all had when he arrived. That he would be that player to elevate the attack, bring his world class qualities immediately and make a difference straight away. We didn't get that and the team didn't improve at all with him in the team. On top of that we are now at risk of losing one of our biggest talents. If Sanchez had brought his Arsenal form here then maybe Martial leaving wouldn't have hurt as much. Now we are stuck in the unknown and that's what worries me going into next season.Why do people keep attributing Sanchez's purchase with Mourinho when he has stated that he was not involved in buying Sanchez? He has said that he agreed with the getting him due to the player's qualities but Mourinho was not involved buying Sanchez!!!
That aside it hasn't really been proven to be a mistake unless we are now judging people after 5 months and no preseason. If he fails next year...fine, it was a mistake but at the moment it's still smart business.
Thanks for this great post. Some in this thread should take notice. I read some guy talking Mourinho fanboys. Fecking grow up. This post is what its all about.Meh, don't really care. Martial, Rashford, Pogba, Shaw, Fellaini or anyone else "upset" can jog on really.
I've been remembering back to the Fergie days where we would have a beast of a squad, jam
Packed with talent and players would have spells in and out of the team but nobody complained, everyone got on with it. All these pussies in our squad nowadays getting their agents to go crying to the media about this and that.. feck off.
This is our problem and has been for years, the attitude of our players fecking stinks. The amount of self entitled players we have is staggering. We've got Marouane fecking Fellaini playing ransom with us. As in, what the actual feck?
Now is the time to get rid of all the whiney twats so they don't spread their shite.
If you're 20 years old, inconsistent as feck, playing in 75% of Manchester United games and still feel the need to bitch and complain when you don't play, then please feck off..
I don't remember 50 million Bernardo Silva or 50 million John Stones amongst the other talent sat on city's bench most weeks bitching and whining every week or sulking on the pitch.
Liverpool have brought in Keita and Fabinho, how much do you wanna bet nobody out of Liverpool comes out bitching and complaining every week next season.
And I get the media do a lot of shit stirring too (Redknapp, hoddle on Rashford etc. Pogba stuff too) but the fact these players never come out and commit themselves to United says it all really. It'd be so easy to come out and say medias talking shite, I wanna fight for my place. But no, that's not what we get.
"Oh no I don't play every week, oh no the manager told me off, oh no the manager played me wide right instead of wide left"..
fecking soft cnuts.
Hmm.. Pogba was like what 18 at the time? Martial is 22. Pogba could afford to be bit more patient as it was a gaping hole in the squad and even if he wasn't ready that season he would have gotten more game time the next. It wasn't like we had bought anyone except bringing back Scholes for few months or that he became a starter at Juve instantly.Well Pogba wanted a regular place in the team and wasn’t going to get it. This is what he said from his own mouth and was justified when he would not even get picked for Micky mouse games.
So it’s the same situation where a player throws a sulk because they feel entitled and wants to leave.
No amount of green smileys will change that fact.
Don’t let the facts stop you though...
Very possible. Agents do this a lot. And some agents do it more crudely or blatantly than others.Could be his agent playing a power move with United in the hopes to get him a new deal. Hope it's that and Anthony doesn't actually want to leave
Remind me, how long did we keep Anderson around for? SAF wasn't some devil.
People forget how ruthless Sir Alex was. And those comparing Martial and Ronaldo when he wanted to leave, have no clue. Fergie never stopped talking about the kid's insane work ethics and dedication. Ronaldo, despite all his faults and problems, was a machine and he had unmatchable drive. That's why his manager could run through a troop for him.
June definitely though they won't pay what we'd want.Think Bayern and Juve will be all over this. Especially Bayern could see him as Riberys replacement on that left wing. He will be a massive success there
You say that with such confidence. But what if Martial wants to go to Spurs? After all, that's not so unlikely.Hes not going to Spurs.
Juventus, Bayern, Atletico could all outbid Spurs and offer higher wages, even Chelsea could if we are talking of English clubs. Spurs are nickel and diming Aston Villa over Jack Grealish ffs. Get real man.True. But then we'd be able to pay him at least as much, I'd guess, as any other club that he might realistically go to.
I would accept swap deals in some form for any of the following:Straight swap PSG Verratti.
He wouldnt play more at Barca or Real than here i think. Atletico depends on Griezmann. I dont think he will have problems finding a CL club in the top 4 leagues anyway. Plenty of clubs will think they can get a good deal out of it, rightfully soJune definitely though they won't pay what we'd want.
Can see Barcelona or Real having a go too maybe? Depending on who leaves.
Atletico as well if Griezmann leaves.
Martial doesn't play for 60% of the season either.Why is everyone so excited for signing a crock that doesn't play 60% of the season?
The same Ronaldo that fell out with Mourinho - our current manager.
People forget how ruthless Sir Alex was. And those comparing Martial and Ronaldo when he wanted to leave, have no clue. Fergie never stopped talking about the kid's insane work ethics and dedication. Ronaldo, despite all his faults and problems, was a machine and he had unmatchable drive. That's why his manager could run through a troop for him.
Since Jose arrived we don't let players go on the cheap. We made our money back on Depay and Schneiderlin, despite both having disasterous spells, and we won't lose money on Martial if we want to move him on.Just curious other than the CR7 deal when did exactly United get top money from player transfer? I just can't see it from the transfer history.
http://www.transferleague.co.uk/manchester-united/english-football-teams/manchester-united-transfers
Completely agree with this bolded part. Were we really going to let City have a free pass at Sanchez, yet stick around with Mkhi stinking up the place? My opinion on the matter is pretty similar to what most people here have stated. Am I big Martial fan? Heck Yeah! Am I upset he might leave? Sure. Am I going to blame this on Jose? Absolutely not! Nobody is bigger than the club IMO. This revisionism is driving me insane. Martial has not had a complete 90 minutes where he has controlled the game, bossed the game, bullied opposition defenders. And that is for good reason, he is 22! Had some personal issues last season (self admitted), had a DECENT first half of the season (mainly as a sub, might I add) and now feels he is entitled to be "an important player" in the squad? All very toys out the pram.Why do people keep attributing Sanchez's purchase with Mourinho when he has stated that he was not involved in buying Sanchez? He has said that he agreed with the getting him due to the player's qualities but Mourinho was not involved buying Sanchez!!!
That aside it hasn't really been proven to be a mistake unless we are now judging people after 5 months and no preseason. If he fails next year...fine, it was a mistake but at the moment it's still smart business.
I would definitely look to do a deal with PSG, Juve or Real. Plenty of interesting players.I would accept swap deals in some form for any of the following:
Verratti
Marquinhos
Kroos
Varane
Kovacic
Bale
Alex Sandro
Pjanic
Milinkovic-Savic (Napoli couldn't afford him tbf)
Thiago
We'll probably end up doing a part-exchange for Willian though, which wouldn't be too bad either. But would be disappointing seeing Martial turn out for a rival.
Yeah not sure why people still think we sell cheaply anymore.Since Jose arrived we don't let players go on the cheap. We made our money back on Depay and Schneiderlin, despite both having disasterous spells, and we won't lose money on Martial if we want to move him on.
Nobody wants to go to spurs. Doubt Martial even knows who they are never mind wanting to go there.You say that with such confidence. But what if Martial wants to go to Spurs? After all, that's not so unlikely.
Are United really going to keep an unhappy player for another year and see his transfer value drop significantly when it comes to next summer with 1 year left on his contract (if extended)?
All you'd gain from that is not improving a rival's squad, whilst making a deal for Toby less likely. People talk about alternative CBs to Toby and say "United have moved on", but I'm not convinced.
Yep. We even got most of the Di Maria money back from PSG.Yeah not sure why people still think we sell cheaply anymore.
To get money back on Depay and Schneirderlin was incredible business really.
He was not some devil, the fine gentleman. But he was the boss. No question about that He kept Anderson because he wanted to keep Anderson. He played anyone he wanted to play and benched anyone he wanted to bench. Those who wanted out and who had irritation agents, he sent packing at the appropriate time.Remind me, how long did we keep Anderson around for? SAF wasn't some devil.
I do, could be wrong but can't see it.You say that with such confidence. But what if Martial wants to go to Spurs? After all, that's not so unlikely.
Are United really going to keep an unhappy player for another year and see his transfer value drop significantly when it comes to next summer with 1 year left on his contract (if extended)?
All you'd gain from that is not improving a rival's squad, whilst making a deal for Toby less likely. People talk about alternative CBs to Toby and say "United have moved on", but I'm not convinced.
In your dreams!Hey, Tony. Our Nabil deal fell through and we still need someone. Just saying. Call me.
Definitely.I would definitely look to do a deal with PSG, Juve or Real. Plenty of interesting players.
Out of interest, why are no top clubs bidding for his services? Genuine question.Why are Bayern, Real Madrid or Barca not after a exciting 22yr old player with Ballon d'or potential?
You could say the exact same thing about Toby.You say that with such confidence. But what if Martial wants to go to Spurs? After all, that's not so unlikely.
Are United really going to keep an unhappy player for another year and see his transfer value drop significantly when it comes to next summer with 1 year left on his contract (if extended)?
All you'd gain from that is not improving a rival's squad, whilst making a deal for Toby less likely. People talk about alternative CBs to Toby and say "United have moved on", but I'm not convinced.
Well this is just a stupid comment.Nobody wants to go to spurs. Doubt Martial even knows who they are never mind wanting to go there.