We'll sell him at his request, nothing like the cases you've listed. He's 22 and getting plenty of game time.
Even Lukaku, per 90 he has Martial's stats and he is as inconsistent as Martial during games, he is just liked and given the benefit of doubts at the moment.
I tried to make that point but failed miserably.There seems to be no middle ground in the thread. You are either a Martial fan boi and anti Jose, or a Jose lover.Could it not be that some posters support United and understand that the club will go on without Martial?
Jose won't leave by the end of the year, and while I like Martial, he really should have done more.
I have very little to zero faith in Mourinho after the way he handled all of this. Winning comes with building reasonably and getting the best of what you already have.
I am a Jose supporter and embraced him from the start together with his footballing style. But the way he handled this thing leaves a bitter taste, and undermines my support in him, simply because I feel it weakens our team, not because I'm obsessed with Martial.There seems to be no middle ground in the thread. You are either a Martial fan boi and anti Jose, or a Jose lover.
This. So much. We support the club, not individual players.There seems to be no middle ground in the thread. You are either a Martial fan boi and anti Jose, or a Jose lover.
Struggling to understand why you've made this about Jose when there is literally no mention of Jose in my posts. In fact, your whole post seems to suggest that people should 'choose a side' Jose or Martial, which quite frankly is absurd.The Jose Force Is strong in this oneAbout one thing is football related. So strong bias.
Let's not add Jose changing his shirt number being a direct representation of changing his position from a striker to a left winger. A role that does not get the best out of him - that probably made him more sulky. Also the fact that the manager himself is one of the most sulky managers available! Jose also has the everyone against us approach and he has slowly trying to push martial to the outside to make him more an enemy than a part of the team.
Done more and performed like who? DDG? No one has been up to standard. So maybe it’s not Martial’s fault.
Of course. Just like it's reasonable to think keeping Martial will be better for the club itself, too.
Again very biased - He has been moved from a number 9 striker replaced by Ibrahimovic, now replaced by Lukaku. Heye thats okay the lad will play at LW. Rashford & Martial compete for LW. January Sanchez comes in.
Literally begging for more players 30+ so we can grind a one off title if that. Sell Martial to tottenham or spurs if he is rubbish I say; he clearly is not good enough 
Dunno, but if he had played better, he would have got Lingard's minutes. Lingard is significantly less talented than him and still had a better season.
He got a new gf at the start of this year though, and they're now expecting a baby. I think he'll start to become more settled again now and be able to focus again on his football, in turn his professionalism and mentality should only improve from here on.
We won't sell him within the PL unless it's £70m+. I'd actually be surprised if we sold him at all this summer.
Nah, he played better than any other left winger and didn't took minutes from them. The issue is probably more tactical and regards his profile, Lingard is used as an advanced midfielder and when Sanchez has been used in that spot he was also dropping relatively deep when out of possession. Martial is just not part of the preferred tactical set up.
You have to ask yourself, why is Lukaku liked more than Martial. It isn't because of their 'per 90' stats, it's because of their respective attitudes.
Pogba was injured for over a month and still has 600 minutes more played in the league. You talk about playing time in the sentence before, then go into appearances in the next. There's a difference between the two.
The Jose Force Is strong in this one
Let's not add Jose changing his shirt number being a direct representation of changing his position from a striker to a left winger. A role that does not get the best out of him - that probably made him more sulky. Also the fact that the manager himself is one of the most sulky managers available! Jose also has the everyone against us approach and he has slowly trying to push martial to the outside to make him more an enemy than a part of the team.
Seriously? Some of you have your head in the clouds.
state of it.It's because of their respective style, remember that Mourinho called Martial "a different type of striker", it kind of tells you everything you need to know. That was during his first press conference iirc.
This is very true mate. Im not trying to hide - the people who see no future for martial here have been fed little spoons of negativity from Jose from the start- from changing his shirt number from striker to a winger. has had maybe one game as a striker in 2 seasons ( is that a coincidence? if you say it is or that winger is his best position - id say that is strong bias) , replaced by 2 strikers : ibrahimovic who was merely promised as a short term option to both Rashford and martial then low and behold - replaced by a younger target man ( same tactics? Bias if unable to see he has not changed tactics to accomadate the players at his disposal).
- bit coincidental
) - doesn't play him on the right and puts him in to straight drop martial to the bench! Brings him back to the RW (instead of Sanchez ) and fails miserably; which is a surprise (not really).Selling Martial will mean we'll dip into the market for another attacking player. If we sign Bale based on selling him this thread will disappear into obscurity.
Yip and notify necessarily a winger. We don't need money, we need quality players - I'd rather sell him to a club that has a player/position we need (FB or CB)... Sandro at Juve for example.
What a bizzare rant full of stuff i never said.Again very biased - He has been moved from a number 9 striker replaced by Ibrahimovic, now replaced by Lukaku. Heye thats okay the lad will play at LW. Rashford & Martial compete for LW. January Sanchez comes in.
Martial has no future at United - his attitude that you seem to know from seeing his face on TV has absolutely nothing to do with it. Jose does not rate him - actually more likely cant utilise players like Martial (technically heavy players playing in positions where Jose is very reliant on strength, falling back and playing ultra defensive) - Jose can't adapt his tactics to fit Martial because he is reliant on the 4231, the same reason he put other technical players out on the wings & failed.
Jose has question marks over him especially over technical players playing in positions tha tthey are not comfortable with - if you do not think so then there is very strong bias.
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How many posts do the new members get in the mains? Because this was one hell of a wasted post.This is very true mate. Im not trying to hide - the people who see no future for martial here have been fed little spoons of negativity from Jose from the start- from changing his shirt number from striker to a winger. has had maybe one game as a striker in 2 seasons ( is that a coincidence? if you say it is or that winger is his best position - id say that is strong bias) , replaced by 2 strikers : ibrahimovic who was merely promised as a short term option to both Rashford and martial then low and behold - replaced by a younger target man ( same tactics? Bias if unable to see he has not changed tactics to accomadate the players at his disposal).
Then! Rashford & Martial compere for the same position - A fight he can win on the pitch but is put in direct competition against one of our own born and bred players
Then! Martial starts overshadowing Rashford in the LW - Jose adds another LW ( who has the ability to play at RW
So now Martial is put in at a game he cant win - ranking 3rd at ST, and 2nd/3rd at LW.
How can you possibly be so biased to think there is not been manipulaltion by our manager? Some people will gladly take the Jose biscuit - others are not so fooled by his sadistic game. That is why anyone who is against martial & his ability to be a good player for United (not world class) is a Jose fan boy and will fight any battle for him.
Exactly - give Jose 100 seasons with Messi - not once would he have used him as a false number 9, as a straight CF.
I can't disagree too much. I'm not a huge fan of his, but neither do I particularly yearn for his transfer away. If, rather than Martial, it was Mata or Lingard who had made public their desire to leave, I wouldn't be massively opposed to their departure either. I'm not sure any of them are really indispensable.
Most people given the opportunity to play for one of the biggest teams in the world and possibly the biggest non French team in France, would work their bollocks off to improve and put Sanchez out of the team, or heaven forbid, learn to play in a new position over the summer and become more versatile.
What like play himself into the team twice and still get shunted?
