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How’s the Mackgoire transfer saga unfolding?
Never know if true but some reporting we've made a bid and Leicester maintain he isn't for sale. We might end up having to offer a VVD fee or more to even soften their stance
 

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Advocated for both VVD and Maguire would rather have had VVD but Maguire would be a cracking signing especially at set pieces for and against.
 

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Never know if true but some reporting we've made a bid and Leicester maintain he isn't for sale. We might end up having to offer a VVD fee or more to even soften their stance
If we are to sign him it’ll certainly be for a similar fee.
 

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Why are we buying a CB? We have bought 3 over the last three seasons and are just as bad at the back. Jones should have been sold years ago. Buy a LB for feck sakes and then a RW . If we get McG will we see 7 defenders on pitch again this season ?
 

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Why are we buying a CB? We have bought 3 over the last three seasons and are just as bad at the back. Jones should have been sold years ago. Buy a LB for feck sakes and then a RW . If we get McG will we see 7 defenders on pitch again this season ?
Can't wait for the season to start :drool:

On a serious note you make a valid point. Why are we spending so much on a central defender when we've already got so many?
 

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Why are we buying a CB? We have bought 3 over the last three seasons and are just as bad at the back. Jones should have been sold years ago. Buy a LB for feck sakes and then a RW . If we get McG will we see 7 defenders on pitch again this season ?
Because despite parking the bus Degea is still one of the busiest keepers in the league. Jones always has something in a bandage, Smalling has too many brainfarts, lindelol is lindelol, Rojo is a red card waiting to happen and bailly has some injury problems.

For a team that played as defensively as we did last year, it's unconscionable how much work Degea had to do.

Being tighter at the back without needing the whole team to go it would free people up to go the other way, the right way. We still need a lb and a rw. And at least one cb has got to go if we get Macgyver.
 

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Can't wait for the season to start :drool:

On a serious note you make a valid point. Why are we spending so much on a central defender when we've already got so many?
Its just getting ridiculous now, we could have bought this guy for 12m last summer but we bought a swedish softy. We have Rojo a new deal but he is without a doubt our worst signing in recent years absolutely dreadful signing and we bought a African boy who doesnt know how to head a ball . Just sell Rojo, use Tuanzbe and TFM and buy what we clearly need .

Because despite parking the bus Degea is still one of the busiest keepers in the league. Jones always has something in a bandage, Smalling has too many brainfarts, lindelol is lindelol, Rojo is a red card waiting to happen and bailly has some injury problems.

For a team that played as defensively as we did last year, it's unconscionable how much work Degea had to do.

Being tighter at the back without needing the whole team to go it would free people up to go the other way, the right way. We still need a lb and a rw. And at least one cb has got to go if we get Macgyver.
And given our recent investments in CB's what makes you think he would improve us?
 

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In a way that is good, as Leicester went from not for sale to 75m, a 60-65m should make the deal go through.
Im not sure Leicester were pretty stubborn with Mahrez and he even put in a transfer request. Im thinking we'll have to go very close to if not meet that £75million valuation. Still Id rather pay that to leicester instead of to spurs for alderweirald.
 

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Would rather have Aldeweireld because he’s a defender at his peak and we need someone like that, rather than someone who’s a bit younger and will take time to settle in.
 

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Would rather have Aldeweireld because he’s a defender at his peak and we need someone like that, rather than someone who’s a bit younger and will take time to settle in.
Any player will take time to settle in. Maguire is 25. Looks like we've got another Lingard here.
 

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Would’ve been fine signing Toby for that amount but I don’t want another lumbering English CB. Slabhead can get fecked.
 

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You're criticising us for now doing exactly what Liverpool did for a centre back. Not buying the player when they were way cheaper.

What does Liverpool buying a left back have to do with us buying a centre back?
Imagine if we'd tried to buy a player who was part of a super sh!t relegated team.

It happens all the time. A player makes a progression, and then develops and emerges as a better player. Maguire has obviously done so, as he's gone from Hull to not just getting in the England squad, but being a key name on the sheet.
The conversation you jumped into the middle was partly about buying a player off a relegated team. How that would have been ridiculous for some. I mentioned how stupid is that logic. There are lots of examples of quality players bought off such teams. Our own Roy Keane is one if i’m not mistaken. I mentioned Robertson as a fresh example.

A player does not develop over night. My point is, it’s baffling we are third summer in a row buying a CB for huge money, and we let this summer’s target to move clubs for 3 times less 12 months ago. While the one we bought then is deemed not good enough, since we are buying a new one. How is that not fecking stupid?

How can someone defend the scouts or the manager who made those decisions? It’s fecking pathetic.

You mention Liverpool spending money on VVD and that being the same, well it’s not. Klopp wanted him, bought him and plays him.

The CBs our manager has bought are not even starting in the most important match of the season.
 

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I just feel we should go for a leader rather than another up-and-coming player.
Bailly needs someone next to him who will give him a mental slap for going to sleep at times, like the goal vs Milan.

We need a leader at the back.
 

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Let’s be honest, this guy’s crap
He's not crap, he's certainly better than some of the CBs we have here. But he's not a 65m defender and he wouldn't make that much difference to our playstyle for the price he's gonna cost

Not to mention we have 6 CBs already cause we've been buying 1 every year without selling anyone
 

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He's not crap, he's certainly better than some of the CBs we have here. But he's not a 65m defender and he wouldn't make that much difference to our playstyle for the price he's gonna cost

Not to mention we have 6 CBs already cause we've been buying 1 every year without selling anyone
To be honest, it's hard to know what a 65m player is these days.
 

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Think it would be Rojo to go.
If we want him bad enough we'll have to either offer something they may want(and most clubs outside the top four would take Smalling if they could afford him), or smash the British transfer record for a central-defender, no harm to Smalling but I know which i'd prefer.

Plus I don't think you'd get Rojo to go to Leicester even if they wanted him, but Smalling may with a gentle push be up for it as Leicester City are a progressive club who are snapping up so decent young England players.
 

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To be honest, it's hard to know what a 65m player is these days.
I don't care about that. We've been spending about £150m per year, since Mourinho came. This guy is gonna cost 45% of our annual transfer budget.

That money would better serve us in different positions, predominantly LB or RW or a CF if Martial is hellbent on leaving. That's how I see it.

His best attributes are attacking the ball in the air and moving up the pitch with the ball. Mourinho is not gonna let him do the latter because he's too risk averse. He doesn't let his CDM do that, never mind his CB. I just don't see enough impact in the squad from him for the share of the budget he would consume.
 

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I’m a big fan of Maguire, included him in my ‘which 4 players would you like to see sign’ list way back in April. I think he’s been excellent for the last two seasons, and thought Arsenal would buy him last summer, but then again, Arsene Wenger has had no clue for a very long time now.

I think he can become a mainstay for us if he joins, and it’s always good to have English players where quality isn’t compromised, and I think he’s been right up there and with growth potential.
 

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Why ? They're both better footballers than Smalling, and when they both managed to stay fit formed the best central defensive partnership we've had in the last 4 or 5 years, albeit it for only a few months.
Because they are both far worse defenders than Smalling.
 
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