Three Spurs stars up for sale - who would all improve us

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Tottenham have let it be known that three of their players, two of which are in the final year of their contracts and are quibbling over a new deal, are up for sale.

All three would improve us. They are Belgium international defender Toby Alderweireld, 31-year-old midfielder Mousa Dembele, who we should have got in when Fulham were after Berbatov, and left back Danny Rose.

All three, for me, are potential starting first team players when fit!

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With just a week to till the transfer window shuts, it seems to me that this is being put out there, because Spurs need the money to get in players.

If Woodward played his cards right, there are decent deals here for us.

Alderweireld, who was 29 in March, has a clause to extend it until 2020, which would also trigger a £25m release clause. Dembele is also in the final year of his contract.

Danny Rose, 28, signed a five-year-contract in 2016 but has previously let it be known that he wants to leave Spurs to play for a northern team.
 
Only Alderweireld really improves you. Dembele would be a decent option to have but he's had injury issues and is a fading power, hence why we're comfortable with letting him go. Rose would not improve you, he is a shadow of his pre-injury self and would spend more time on the treatment table for you than on the pitch.
 
SquishyMcSquish said:
I mean Alderweireld is available because he wants to leave, not because we want to sell him.
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You haven't used him for quite a while now . Next year you will get 20m for him now is the time to try and get more. Thats the reason, him wanting to leave has nothing to do with it .
 
arthurka said:
You haven't used him for quite a while now . Next year you will get 20m for him now is the time to try and get more. Thats the reason, him wanting to leave has nothing to do with it .
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Because he was injured for a while, and then because he had disagreements with the club over a new contract, so he wasn't featuring. He's our best central defender when fit and one of the best in the league, would absolutely improve you. The fact he wants to leave and won't sign a new contract = we will lose him for 20 mill ... point is the reason we're selling him isn't anything to do with how good he is at football. With the other two it's because Rose is a perma crock who has lost his edge post-injuries, and Dembele is also suffering from injuries and clearly on the decline. Neither of those two would be worth signing, Alderweireld would.
 
We've a squad full of injury prone, hard to shift, deadwood that people make a point of labelling deadwood every time we lose a match. But then we want to pick up more short term patchwork on 3-4 year contracts that would potentially improve us for a year and then sit around for the remainder of their contract whilst Woodward scrambles to acquire more gradual squad improvements. We need a long term transfer strategy that focuses on acquiring the very best players

Alderweireld is the only one that fits, being one of the best CBs in the league.
 
Alderweireld would improve us, not sure about Rose, Young kept him out of the England side in the WC.
 
Alderweireld is the only one I might want at this point. But not for any price. He's too old for that.
 
Come on people, Alderweireld is not a Spurs reject. Be serious. He's a top class centre back and nothing less.
 
Zlatattack said:
Alderweireld would improve us, not sure about Rose, Young kept him out of the England side in the WC.
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Yeah, he's a player who had a burst for a couple of seasons and probably exceeded expectations. Upgrade on Shaw maybe but not young so what's the point?
 
Bastian said:
Come on people, Alderweireld is not a Spurs reject. Be serious. He's a top class centre back and nothing less.
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Dembele isn't even a reject. He's just getting on and wants one last big move in his career, so the club will probably allow it since he has had injury issues/has somewhat faded of late. He's still a monster when fit and our best CM (crucial in games against you, Liverpool, Juventus etc last season) it's just he can't be relied upon anymore. He's no reject though, most of our fans still love him and think he should stay at the club, just in a reduced role where he doesn't need to play as many games/we're not as reliant on him.
 
I'd take Dembele as backup. Alderweirelds good depending on the price, which will be a lot less next season. Rose I'm really not fussed.
 
SquishyMcSquish said:
Because he was injured for a while, and then because he had disagreements with the club over a new contract, so he wasn't featuring. He's our best central defender when fit and one of the best in the league, would absolutely improve you. The fact he wants to leave and won't sign a new contract = we will lose him for 20 mill ... point is the reason we're selling him isn't anything to do with how good he is at football. With the other two it's because Rose is a perma crock who has lost his edge post-injuries, and Dembele is also suffering from injuries and clearly on the decline. Neither of those two would be worth signing, Alderweireld would.
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Thats what I said , him wanting to leave has nothing to do with him being available. You guys want more than 20m for him thats why he is up for grabs for the highest bidder.
 
arthurka said:
Thats what I said , him wanting to leave has nothing to do with him being available. You guys want more than 20m for him thats why he is up for grabs for the highest bidder.
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Why would you not want him then? Sure, you could possibly get him for 25m cheaper next year (although loads of clubs will become interested at that price) but United are hardly short of money and you'd be getting a top class centre back a year early.
 
el3mel said:
Alderweireld

We don't need Dembele and Rose is terrible.
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It's like you're sitting at my desk using my keyboard.

In what world do we need another CM?
Rose would be a lateral move to replace Shaw at best.
If Jose is hell bent on signing a CB, and I'm not against him doing so as ALL of our CB's are deficient in more than one way, Alderweireld would be a sound purchase.
 
SquishyMcSquish said:
Why would you not want him then? Sure, you could possibly get him for 25m cheaper next year (although loads of clubs will become interested at that price) but United are hardly short of money and you'd be getting a top class centre back a year early.
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No I would want to pay 50m plus for him .
 
arthurka said:
No I would want to pay 50m plus for him .
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Fair. Thing is, when he's available for 25m a whole bunch of teams are going to be in for him, and Levy will definitely prefer to sell abroad. Alderweireld may want the United move, but how much? Whereas this window, you seem the only club prepared to pay the full amount.
 
SquishyMcSquish said:
Dembele isn't even a reject. He's just getting on and wants one last big move in his career, so the club will probably allow it since he has had injury issues/has somewhat faded of late. He's still a monster when fit and our best CM (crucial in games against you, Liverpool, Juventus etc last season) it's just he can't be relied upon anymore. He's no reject though, most of our fans still love him and think he should stay at the club, just in a reduced role where he doesn't need to play as many games/we're not as reliant on him.
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Yeah, I wasn't inferring that Rose or Dembele were rejects. But to speak about Alderweireld as a reject is just takes the biscuit.
 
SquishyMcSquish said:
Fair. Thing is, when he's available for 25m a whole bunch of teams are going to be in for him, and Levy will definitely prefer to sell abroad. Alderweireld may want the United move, but how much? Whereas this window, you seem the only club prepared to pay the full amount.
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When he is available for £25m, surely Levy would have no choice where Alderweireld goes?
 
FlawlessThaw said:
When he is available for £25m, surely Levy would have no choice where Alderweireld goes?
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Probably a limited amount of control, but other clubs will be interested when he's available for half the current price. Could face a battle for his signature, whereas now you're pretty much the only team interested at 50m. I guess it's all down to how confident United are that Alderweireld will choose you, if they feel that's the case it might be worth waiting another year.
 
I’d take Alderweireld and maybe Rose. Dembele is done.
 
SquishyMcSquish said:
Probably a limited amount of control, but other clubs will be interested when he's available for half the current price. Could face a battle for his signature, whereas now you're pretty much the only team interested at 50m. I guess it's all down to how confident United are that Alderweireld will choose you, if they feel that's the case it might be worth waiting another year.
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I think the club would feel fairly confident, not many clubs would offer the same kind of package to a 30 year old defender that United would do.

In anycase it seems like Levy wants too much money for those 3 players so expect all to likely to stay.
 
Rozay said:
I’d take Alderweireld and maybe Rose. Dembele is done.
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Done is a tad harsh. He still had a number of fantastic performances for us last season (vs United, Juventus, Liverpool etc) and remained an important player. I think he still has something to offer if his fitness is handled well and he's not overplayed, the problem is that we have often been too reliant on him as we have nobody else in midfield who offers what he does. A move to somewhere like Serie A where the pace is slower may be a decent idea for him.
 
FlawlessThaw said:
I think the club would feel fairly confident, not many clubs would offer the same kind of package to a 30 year old defender that United would do.

In anycase it seems like Levy wants too much money for those 3 players so expect all to likely to stay.
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Agreed. Alderweireld leaving is possible but all three in one window? We're struggling for depth as it is.
 
In what universe would Dembele improve us. Whose place in the 11 would he take ?
 
The problem with all three is that you have to deal with Daniel Levy to make it happen.
 
Rose is a fit because I think it is fair to say on a good day he can still be flawless at the back. He is a national team player and if you wait and gamble to find another Rojo or Darmain, the window will close.

Can you really beat signing Rose for three years? At this point, critics and average pundits would say even Marcelo is washed up based on his age outweighing experience which is an atrocity in this generation, so I won't hesitate to say that is an argument Rose might begin to hear and he should be convinced to sign with United and not have to end up signing at Bournemouth in two years. Come to United.
 
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Won’t be hammering F5 on transfer deadline day if this is all we have to look forward to.
 
The only one we need is Alderweireld and we will get him :devil:
 
I don't want any fitness concerns from rivals. Alderweireld is good and would improve but he's stupidly expensive for his age.
 
I was looking at Rose's career stats and he has never had more than 35 total appearances in a season (Total, not League), that's worse than the much maligned Phil Jones who has managed that twice in his United career. In the last thee seasons - 30, 21 & 17.

I wouldn't even want him in a straight swap with Shaw. We already have one of the most injury prone squad in the league. According to a BBC report we spend the most in wages on injured players last season. We should stay away from Rose unless we want to stay at the top of that list again for next season.

Dembele is not good enough.

Toby is an interesting option. He is not what he is cracked out to be as a commanding center back on this forum, but he has sublime ball skills & is a decent defender. I wouldn't mind him if we can't get Maguire. His recent injury infliction is a worry though.
 
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Rose and Dembele are both shite. They wouldn’t improve us at all. We’d just waste some more money on deadwood for next season.

TA might be a decent to good buy for us though.
 
Alderweireld for the right price and we can get rid of Rojo and Jones.

Rose can't even get ahead of Ashley Young in the England team so no point of signing him.
 
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