They both got to spent multiple seasons at the same club. And were at good sides in top leagues for sides who played in Europe.
Andreas Christensen
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Not seen much of him but he did seem a bit slow against us. I know he's highly rated though and he's been decent for Chelsea this year.
As good as his overall game is (the few matches i've seen him) not his best 2 days. Yet to prove he can be solid and reliable.
Indeed. If Charly Musonda tears it up in Scotland who really cares? Having a great season for a decent sized club in Spain or Germany is about as good as it gets in terms of loans.
How so? He's around 1.90 tall - does he shy away from tackles?
I think he's more in the intelligent defender mould, but he has a bit of it all. Terrible two games for him though, but he seems mature for his age in interviews too.
Not so much shying away from tackles but he's not exactly dominant in the air and he can get brushed off the ball by big lumps like Troy Deeney.
Don't get me wrong, I think he's great but there are a couple of gaps in his game.
He plays small for his size and shies from contact.
Looks like Johnny Evans, talented footballer but athletically limited leaving him vulnerable to being overpowered and done for pace. Only 21 so he has years to fill out and change that but he is probably 2-3 years away from hitting his best level. Does Zouma have a future at Chelsea? have not watched much of him at Stoke, a little surprised he was back so quickly after that horrible knee injury.
But how has he been all season?
He seems to have sent Cahill to the doldrums.
He's a good prospect, better than Cahill in every department.
He's made mistakes in big games though, awful pass error v Barca. Should have stayed down motionless after head clash with Lukaku, naive to stagger on, lost Lingard for second goal.
Very inexperienced, so mistakes in pressure games no surprise. Hopefully won't harm his development.
If Luiz hadn't fallen out with Conte after the Roma game he'd mainly be a backup. Luiz was superb last year, born to play in the centre of a back 3. Luiz Didn't make mistakes, has experience, superb distribution from deep.
He's made mistakes in big games though, awful pass error v Barca. Should have stayed down motionless after head clash with Lukaku, naive to stagger on, lost Lingard for second goal.
Very inexperienced, so mistakes in pressure games no surprise. Hopefully won't harm his development.
If Luiz hadn't fallen out with Conte after the Roma game he'd mainly be a backup. Luiz was superb last year, born to play in the centre of a back 3. Luiz Didn't make mistakes, has experience, superb distribution from deep.
Are you sure you are talking about the same David Luiz. And I do not think it is a coincidence that Chelsea's defense came apart against Bournemouth once Christensen came off or that they lost 4-1 when Christensen was out.
Conte refused to play Luiz and more importantly Diego Costa, the guys that got him a title with Hazard. Van Gaal anti-brazilianism? Anyways he got what he deserved.
Christensen's been better than Luiz.
David Luiz didn't make mistakes 
This guy is a star in the making so watch out for him. It's very normal for youngsters to show inconsistency here and there however this guy seems less prone to such. He's got the tools to become worldclass but that can be said of many youngsters so at this point we'd just have to wait to see how his career panso out.
I like what i’ve seen of him so far. Playing all season how i expected Lindelof to look. Will be interesting to see how their 2 careers progress in comparison
Looks very good for his age but so did Smalling and Jones at one point so who knows how good he'll end up being exactly
I knew he was the real deal when I saw him play against us on ITV in the FA Youth Cup about 4 years ago. Natural defender.
Firstly David Luiz is always making mistakes which is part of the Reason he fell out with conte,I’ve lost count of the times he’s given away possession and just jogs back after he’s done it as if he’s expecting someone else to sort it out. Yes Christensen has been good overall this season but the Barca game he was poor he tried playing it across the box in the 1st half it went for a corner and obviously he gave the ball to iniesta for the goal,and he wasn’t any better at OT but that will come with experience he is still learning but overall I think he will turn into a decent defender.
I personally thought he use to blow hot and cold at youth level and while he only made a few appearances under Jose i wasn't that convinced.
The talent was always there however it was when he went to Germany he went from strength to strength and really shown what he was made off. Now i couldn't imagine our defense without him.
Maybe, I can’t say I studied him at youth level, but we crossed paths in the Youth Cup and although I was mainly looking to see Piazon (who to be fair, was very impressive too), Christensen caught my eye. Loftus Cheek was in that team, and I remember thinking Ola Aina was a machine. He was pretty much unbeatable one on one.
He held his face like he got hit by Tyson during our 1st goal. Is he getting any stick for that? You think he'd have tried to keep playing there.
Third defensive error that has led to a goal in three games.
Yeah, just came in to post that.
Him and Azpilicueta easily lost Alli for the second goal and Christensen couldn't clear the ball for the third.
Christensen made lot of mistakes in the past month or 2, he is young player though, so has time on his side to improve.
Azpilicueta, I don't understand why so many rate him as the best CB in the league. If any ManUtd defender let runner past them easily, it will be used against them for at least a season. For Azpi, any mistake will be forgotten next day and people will rate him as the best again.
Christensen made lot of mistakes in the past month or 2, he is young player though, so has time on his side to improve.
Azpilicueta, I don't understand why so many rate him as the best CB in the league. If any ManUtd defender let runner past them easily, it will be used against them for at least a season. For Azpi, any mistake will be forgotten next day and people will rate him as the best again.
He was said to be struggling with fatigue recently as well. He needs a break.
Made errors in nearly all big games recently.
This is sort of why i rate Valencia so much. It's been a good long time since he's made a personal error that cost us anything. Things like this goes unnoticed, but the non-show of bad things are the signs of class. Same with Carrick - It's the errors that doesn't happen you don't see, but when they're gone and you'll have a new player like Aurier who's on and off you really notice the difference.
Because when you look at his contribution over a season, he's a great player. A rock at the back for Chelsea in their two title winning seasons and one of the favourite players of every coach who's managed them.
Any player makes mistakes. What you're describing there is not a problem with Azpi but with fans who for some reason I don't comprehend expect players to never make mistakes. Don't make that Azpi's problem
Spot on! I can't recall what team it was against, but it was when City lost, Walker made two clear mistakes that directly led to goals. There's also this talk about ball playing centre backs, but again, if you look at Stones, or Koscielny this season, there are quite a few mistakes that are a result of trying too much at the back.
Yeah he is a great player without a doubt but when so many rate him as the best CB in the league, that I will never understand.
I'm not making it any player's problem, it's how some always go on and on about the mistakes done by ManUtd player and then act as if other players never make mistakes.
Exactly.
To be honest I think this is the reason why we have gone under the radar so much and are at 2nd place, even though every commentator are blowing each other about Spurs / Liverpool's "amazing" playing style. Valencia and Young are just plain out reliable, and it's very rarely at those positions we see personal errors leading to goals.
Been shambles again.
Not starting again today - wouldn't mind having him here if Chelsea decided to sell him.
Chelsea definitely will not sell him. But, I am really surprised he is not starting after all the progress he showed last season.
He was only really starting because of whatever issue Conte had with Luiz. Luiz is back in the team now under Sarri so it will be difficult for him to get a look in.
I concur. He's been very good for them since he broke out. Calm an composed defender.
Even so I think Christensen has the potential to be a much better defender than Luiz is right now.
I think he would be a good purchase, he's composed as you said, good in the air and good with the ball at his feet.
We need defo need to get serious about off loading Jones, Rojo and maybe even Lindelof in the summer.
Jones, Rojo yes but i would like to see Lindelof on loan for a season or two. There is a defender in there and probably he needs to play a string of games.