Villas-Boas, the man who thought it was a good idea to play John Terry in a high line.
Our options are limited, who next?
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That would be hilarious. Even more so if he won something other than top bottlers award
Does this guy still exist ? I don't even know what he manages this day.
Marketable and reputation are intertwined. Reputation is often based on past merits and may not accurately reflect the current ability of a player or manager(Mourinho and Sanchez).
I won't disagree that on paper/reputation Mourinho was a safe appointment in the eyes of Woodward/Glazers.
Fair point. Very few argued against Mourinho other than to his footballing style. Certainly no one questioned his ability to delivery success at the very least in the short term.
I just mean in the eventuality that Jose gets fired early, I wouldn't want to just pick a random manager who is available.
Carrick, only as a rest of the season manager. Not full time
Sack Mourinho, bring in a DOF and any manager that is deemed fit.
McCarrick til the end of the season.
Alittle naive using a newly retired player with zero coaching experience taking over for the rest of season?
Who knows of this guy - Julian Nagelsmann?
https://www.bundesliga.com/en/news/...enheim-best-young-coach-in-germany-473225.jsp
Any thoughts to someone like David Wagner? Leonardo Jardim?
https://www.bundesliga.com/en/news/...enheim-best-young-coach-in-germany-473225.jsp
Any thoughts to someone like David Wagner? Leonardo Jardim?
An interim manager or any other such solution is daft. It's going to be extremely unsettling, the players won't need to impress someone that's leaving in 6 months. We need a long term plan. I'm not sold on the DOF position either, it basically means we then hire a head coach to work with what the DOF provides.
For the past 5 years we've tried to act like there's no " United way" and tried to ape other big clubs by hiring managers due to their CV and look where it's got us. Perhaps trying to copy a successful past isn't the most stupid thing to do.
Nagelsman is going to become Leipzig's manager from next season.
Nagelsmann already has a contract with RB Leipzig from next season on.
Holy shite I found Villas Boas to still only 40, it looks like ages since I heard of him, managing in China too. Ridiculous how he ceased to exist at one point.
The best way to tap into that past is to find a manager who has shown he abides by similar principles, not by hiring a random member of a number of people who happened to be around at the time.
C O N T E.
I think the Moyes fiasco has gotten the United fans too cautious about signing managers from smaller clubs. However, the big problem with Moyes was not that he never won anything, but the brand of football he played(and a lack of tactical nous).
With no obvious proven winners(who play attacking football) available, I think United should go with a manager not proven at the highest level, who has the proper philosophy. The hell, Bayern appointed Niko Kovac only this summer!
Therefore, my choice to replace Mourinho would be one of Howe, Javi Gracia, Espirito Santo. Or even Michael Laudrup, he was highly rated before he went to the Middle East for $$$.
Having said all of this, knowing how superficially Woodward views footballing matters, I am 99% sure it will be Zidane.
With no obvious proven winners(who play attacking football) available, I think United should go with a manager not proven at the highest level, who has the proper philosophy. The hell, Bayern appointed Niko Kovac only this summer!
Therefore, my choice to replace Mourinho would be one of Howe, Javi Gracia, Espirito Santo. Or even Michael Laudrup, he was highly rated before he went to the Middle East for $$$.
Having said all of this, knowing how superficially Woodward views footballing matters, I am 99% sure it will be Zidane.
United could easily buy out his contract from Leipzig if they so desired, granted that might be way too much to hassle with.
Similar phrases were thrown around when we were hiring Jose....
No idea.
I think Zidane would be better than Jose, but I don't know much better. The people rewriting his history at Real on here are hilarious though. He did a fantastic job at Real. Something no other manager came close to doing at the club.
There's definitely reservations about his ability to retool the team. And the potential lack of a clear 'philosophy' or way of playing.
I think Zidane would be better than Jose, but I don't know much better. The people rewriting his history at Real on here are hilarious though. He did a fantastic job at Real. Something no other manager came close to doing at the club.
There's definitely reservations about his ability to retool the team. And the potential lack of a clear 'philosophy' or way of playing.
Not really, few argued that Mourinho abided by Manchester United's stylistic principles.
Unless you specifically mean the argument against picking a random player from our past and hoping (with zero evidence) that they'd be a successful, progressive manager, which has nothing to do with Mourinho's failure here.
This thread shows why we need to stick with Jose. However, if we change, I wouldn’t go for a ‘Fancy Dan’ foreign manager like City or Liverpool. I’d go for a solid British manager. Someone like Sean Dyche.
Don't think he will be sacked anytime soon unfortunately. At least get someone who can play football. Not a hoofing coward defensive shit dire stuff ffs. He needs to go. Get some one who can motive the players and get the best out of them not someone who challenges them and wants to prove that he is the boss every fecking day.
You’re bonkers mate, sorry.
I feel the same way about Zidane as I did when the rumours of us getting Jose surfaced. Who knows, he may be good for us but we have a knack of turning everyone into utter shite anyway. I don’t know who we should go for but I would rather bring someone in now rather than wait until we can’t get CL for definite. Let them use the rest of this season to plan for next season rather than just a summer and hope for the best. I think this season is beyond salvaging, not from a points on offer perspectice but from the damage that has been done. It’s gonna take a long time to undo this.
Carrick till the end of this season and let's see how he can do. It will not get any worse.
Unless a manager actually takes charge, there's never any evidence as to whether he's going to succeed or not. You could hire the most successful manager available( like we've done) and it could all turn to sh*t. As for a "progressive" manager, you have to remember all managers considered past it (Wenger, Mourinho etc) were once considered the most progressive managers of their time.
That is why hiring a manager is not as important as establishing a long lasting effective hierarchy at the club and as far as I'm concerned I'd trust someone who knows the club inside out for this job. All former players who've gone into the administrative side of the game went their without any experience and more than a fair few have been successful.
It might sound a bit ‘left field’, but if we don’t keep Jose, at least Dyche would instil fight into the team. He’d be capable of settling us into a respectable to 8 position, which I’d take right now. However, I still think Jose is the best manager out there, bar none.
It needs to be someone who understands the club and the standards you have to meet. I am thinking Steve Bruce, Ryan Giggs, Carlos Quieroz(maybe age is against him), Ole Solskjaer or Gary Neville as people who know about these standards, who could in theory be supported in a long-term project. I don't think Zidane is right for us, he cant speak the language for a start. The most important thing for me is that they are strong individuals, who can lead the players without the shameful acts of petulance and self-preservation we are seeing from our current boss and have a style/idea of where the playing side of the club wants to be. I wouldn't be against a Carrick / McKenna caretaker job until end of the season to see how they do with a view to extending them if we see positive signs they are able to take us forward.
Realistically we are fecked until the end of the season....and then see what's available but the top draw managers, are already at top draw successful clubs
Think with that is players will be good enough to coast to a top four finish. Right now they are just not performing because they clearly dislike Mourinho. Take him and his poisonous self and crap defensive tactics out and they will be good enough to get top four or at least better than they are. Right now, this situation is counter productive.
British football died 15 years ago
Bar Milan, I can't think of any other team trying to copy their past. The Manchester United we all knew is gone now. Football have evolved and we have to join in the trend, not stick with the past. We will be left behind.
Serious underrating of Zidane going on here. Lad won the league and 3 CLs in a row what else do people want! Real have had the best squads in world football for decades and no one else has manged to win 2 consecutive CLs let alone 3. Reminds me when people claimed Pep was a fraud and he won't be able to handle a windy day at Stoke. Its not his fault he had a stellar squad, and its not easy to manage so many egos and pressure when working with big clubs.
We don't have to, when there are thousands of coaches out there. Leipzig have their sporting director managing them as they wait for the glorious arriving of their shiny new manager. I doubt they would give up too easily.
We are rumoured to be taking Leipzig's sporting director.
Zidane's real Madrid side in the league were woeful. However, he did win 3 CL in a row. Again, this can be argued that he has the best team in Europe.
I want a manager with an attacking philosohy.
I want a manager with an attacking philosohy.
You people should stop these romantics. Take a look at the best teams in the league - and most of the other teams too, non of them have a manager that had ever been associated with the club. The same goes to the top teams outside the EPL.
Fergie had never associated with the club before he was appointed. We need to stop sticking to the past. Neville, Bruce, Giggs, Solskjaer won't do a better job because they 'know the club and understand the standards'. Romantics hardly work in football.
Unless you started watching football in summer 2017, they were not.