To be fair to him though - is Home to Juventus the best time to have a tinker? He could have played 352 maybe, but the last time we played a back 3, it wasn't pretty.
Press Conference | Everton (H)
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
He did not say that.Did he really say that?Feck sake he's sounding more like Moyes than a supposed world class manager.
It was a made up quote by some smart alec on this forum, designed to incite more hatred towards Jose.
Well that was made up but the other quote posted was genuine and it wasn't any worse. Our ambitions and Everton's are similar. Well that's the Moyes moment.
Put dig after dig on Woodward, so that he could get finally fired and take a hefty cheque?
The tweet wasn't made up. It was taken from the MUTV interview.
If at first you don't succeed, try try try try try try try try again....and still fail!
No, they aren't great options. If the better option isn't working, then an inferior options isn't going go hold us in better stead.
Changing our formation isn't going to change our approach to the game, that should be a fairly obvious observation. If Jose wants players tracking back or to sit with a deep line, then he's going to do that whether we have 3 in midfield, 2 up top, wingers or no wingers. People put far too much weight on how a team lines up on paper. In terms of personnel, that's about as attacking as we could've resonably set up.
We are just going in cycles at this point. We've played 3 at the back, we've played wingbacks, we've played one and 2 in midfield, we've even tried 2 up top. But always the solution is to change formation if something isn't working.
The discussion is about the Juve game, that's where the quotes I another poster were debating originated from, hence the discussion around Lukaku involves Juve.
That's great, and I agree with much of it. But let me draw us but to the original point I made and you quoted. Lukaku might not be in form, but what was the alternative in that specific game, the one Jose was commenting on. You complain about a lack of attacking intent, fine, if we are to remove Lukaku from the line up, what attacking player will we replace him with? If we change formation as you and others suggest, who will we bring in to make that formation work (again, against Juve)? You take issue with players being played out of position, there's no reasonable alternative that isn't going to see players play out of position (see suggestion of playing Mata out wide).
As so often in these discussions, context is completely ignored to make a wider point. If you want to change our formation (again), fine. Is the Juve game the one to do it in? Don't we need a little time to train towards that goal? If it doesn't work, will you still be as enthusiastic about the change, or will you look to blame Jose for it (a general point)?
Whats wrong with that?
Rajma is on board with it!at all the people who want to believe that made up quote is actually something said by Jose
It says a lot about you, it really does.
With those made up quotes?
It truly truly doesn’t. No more than the several threads based on parts of quotes that spawned into pages of conjecture all it says is that there is a high number of people in a state of foaming at the mouth frenzy, willing go belive anything that will justify their indignation. It’s making a complete fecking mess of every thread.
Don't want to sound a Mourinho defender because my historic here proves the opposite but without watching his expression he probably was praising Everton ambitions regarding recruiting players from Barcelona and trying to achieve the same level as the top 6. Doesn't look he was saying United is the same size as Everton.
Go Jose! Touching Ed's ego could only be good for us. Either Ed gives in and buys very good players or gets frustrated and fires Jose. I don't see anything bad about both scenarios for us
Someone should ask him how come United ended up sharing Everton's ambitions under the so called special one.
This guy is worse than Moyes and Van Gaal. At lease they didn't sully the club at every turn. They both also gave exciting youth players a chance. This fecking douche bag has spent 400m pounds and done nothing but cry playing absolutely thrash football. But Eddy the idiot will keep on waiting for us to be mathematically out of the top 4 and let him destroy our name further before he gives him his marching orders. Total shambles.
Throw this fecking conman the bones he so desires and let him go. How can we let this nonsense continue? It's beyond me at this point.
Throw this fecking conman the bones he so desires and let him go. How can we let this nonsense continue? It's beyond me at this point.
Great post. Balanced and not sensationalist.
A few more on here could do with a similar approach.
I found his statement about Lukaku ridiculous. So much of LVG's "my captain will always play". His persistance over Lukaku will lead to him getting sacked.
Hopefully the upcoming manager won't be one of those who persist over crap players regardless. Be ruthless and drop him. Play Martial up top with Rashford left and Lingard or Mata right.
Hopefully the upcoming manager won't be one of those who persist over crap players regardless. Be ruthless and drop him. Play Martial up top with Rashford left and Lingard or Mata right.
Everton want to be a top 4 club like us.
He's turning into Moyes
I love the raw emotion in this. You're right in many ways. Van Gaal and Moyes did bring through youth players like lingard, rashford and you could argue martial.
But I think it's a tad harsh on Jose. He has helped to develop mctominay, Pereira is getting more time (slowly), shaw has improved under him and Dalot has been brought in.
Did he say it? He's getting flak left right and center, making things up really isn't necessary.
Wish a journalist would actually question him how much he's spent already when he keeps mentioning investment ffs.
We still spent 80m+ this summer on 2 players, it wasn't like he had nothing.
Such a old grumpy moaning git. Acting like spending money is the only way to achieve glory ffs.
We still spent 80m+ this summer on 2 players, it wasn't like he had nothing.
Such a old grumpy moaning git. Acting like spending money is the only way to achieve glory ffs.
As I said earlier, wumming the board.
Is our manager Moyes wearing a Mourinho mask or something?
Hes saying Everton have ambitions to get to the level of Barca... Read the quote properly.
No. He's saying that he wants to reach Barca's level, but Woodward only wants to reach Everton's level.He's turning into Moyes
You've got it the wrong way around.
Leave them. Gang wants the blood.
He's clearly daring to be fired, he knows the board are shit and he can get away with it.
Mc Tominay is there to prove a point and nothing more. He was used last season to teach Pogba a lesson & has been sparingly used in this one to do the same.
Shaw after his horrible injury has improved mentally and physically. Jose has little to do with his improvement. Pereira should be getting more time but isn't deemed good enough to come of the bench in a game where we were losing 1-0 and going nowhere with the players on the pitch. Yes, we bought Dalot.
Anyway, this is not about giving youth a chance. It's this about this moron crying about transfers after having spent 400m pounds and making early excuses before an important game at home. All he does now is lower expectations and offers nonsense excuses for his impending failure. This is probably the only organization that tolerates this kind of balderdash. Every pre/post match conference he questions the board, the players, the scouts, the kitman, the tea lady - but is still allowed to manage the club. It's flabbergasting.
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That will be a savage comment if he means that.
Actually my only problem of this presser is his persistance over Lukaku, nothing else.
His actual quotes are not too dissimilar turns out you can’t blame the people.
They’re at the sort of level we are aspiring to.
Love it, people still lap on to defend him. You are supporting a past it manager with no future here, who cares only for his paycheck once we sack him and burns everything down til he leaves.Then what's wrong with changing our approach?
Let him say the truth. Our club is a top 4 club,or board have made this known. Although I'm not supporting the shit football but I can't just understand how this side that was playing well under Jose 1st and half of last season just turn to shit. The players are not motivated. I don't understand.
What's worse is that the gaggle of Jose fellators will still go on and defend his nonsense. Truly baffling.
He wasn’t comparing us to Everton. He was basically saying that Everton and United both aspire and have ambitions to be as good as Barcelona. That’s how it reads to me.
I understood Fellators would not feature against Everton … did I get that wrong or is he playing mind games again?