Robbie Boy
Full Member
@Anyone who changed their vote to ‘yes’ today, I’m really proud of you and am glad you’s have seen the light. The rest will convert soon. Amen.
I remember you admitting that he had to go a few weeks ago.Still sniping, I see.
We will not judge them for taking this long. Better late than never.@Anyone who changed their vote to ‘yes’ today, I’m really proud of you and am glad you’s have seen the light. The rest will convert soon. Amen.
We still have plenty of lifeboats to throw out there.I remember you admitting that he had to go a few weeks ago.
What happened man? Don't be like that @santiagokinderbueno that went down with the Van Gaal titanic. There is still space on the lifeboat.
He's not going anywhere anytime soon mate.Hope tonight is the night Mourinho is relieved of his duties
Why not offer it to him on a short term deal. Once in a lifetime opportunity, take over now and see how he does until next summer. It's high risk but huge reward for him.Then we will know our glory days are over and will never be back
That was down to Jose. He said so.This is why the argument that it's all due to having shit players doesn't work (although I do agree that your squad isn't great). We finished 2nd last season largely due to having a few individuals performing well, we weren't the 2nd best unit, the 2nd best coached or 2nd most coherent side but we had a goalkeeper playing out of his skin and we were more clinical with our chances than most, the fact that we don't create much and now can't defend is a symptom of bad coaching and the lack of a system.
Seems like a polar opposite in 16/17 when I think we created the most chances but end up 6th in Mourinho's first season.That's a bit depressing.
I don't disagree - I just take objection to the incessant complaining, sniping and vilification.I remember you admitting that he had to go a few weeks ago.
What happened man? Don't be like that @santiagokinderbueno that went down with the Van Gaal titanic. There is still space on the lifeboat.
Playing devil's advocate, some are just saying he is part of the problem rather than the sole problem. There are a number of things wrong with the club.The simple question really for those who wish to deflect the blame from Jose is whether our attack is worse than Southampton's? Against a horrendous Palace side at home?
Let's be clear, if Jose had us lose to City 3-1 and claimed he wasn't backed in the summer, it is a fair point. I didn't hold him entirely responsible for the City loss, though tactics could have been better. But this stat against Palace throws his incompetence into sharp relief.
Both Ed and Jose are taking the club down. Get rid of the one who is removable at the least.
Stop watching his press conferences then.I don't disagree - I just take objection to the incessant complaining, sniping and vilification.
Kinderman was nuts though.
From what I can see, the overwhelming majority agree with that. It doesn’t stop some of the utter garbage that’s posted in here, though.Playing devil's advocate, some are just saying he is part of the problem rather than the sole problem. There are a number of things wrong with the club.
He's not the only problem. The decision makers at the club are to blame as well.Playing devil's advocate, some are just saying he is part of the problem rather than the sole problem. There are a number of things wrong with the club.
TouchéStop watching his press conferences then.
Well playedStop watching his press conferences then.
This.He's not going anywhere anytime soon mate.
Wait, what? You really don’t think the ‘sniping’ comes from both sides????I don't disagree - I just take objection to the incessant complaining, sniping and vilification.
Kinderman was nuts though.
Sure it does.Wait, what? You really don’t think the ‘sniping’ comes from both sides????
It's the only way I can stop myself from crying.
Take a bow
Agreed, and I’ve said this so many times. We don’t have basic competence, and do not look like a team that train together, at all. That’s why “it’s the players/Woodward’s fault” doesn’t fly with me. Where is the coaching?The funny thing is that with Moyes and LVG you could see that the team was coached, you could see patterns. It wasn't good enough, in the case of Moyes it was often bad but you couldn't question that they were working behind the scene. With Mourinho, it looks like the players only meet on match day. It's just weird.
Stop watching his press conferences then.
What the feckKlopp had a strong core of Henderson Milner and Lovren, and the club still backed him with world class signings in Van Dyke and Keita. Jose wasn't allowed to sign the players he wanted and had Pogba and Sanchez forced upon him while not being allowed to sell Martial. Shows the difference in ambition between the two clubs and where the real problem lies.
Phew. There’s some fecking cretins that post utterly condescending shite from the in-camp. I can’t name them unfortunately. It’s a very two way thing. My favourite is the ‘haters’ tag and they then bitch and moan when someone comes back with ‘fanboi’. It’s all very silly really but quite entertaining at times.Sure it does.
Stop watching his press conferences then.
I'd take a three-legged goat in a sombrero at this point.This.
Woodward doesn't want to admit another defeat, plus there are no viable options out there.
Some clown on 606 suggested Giggs. He is too quiet to get a performance out of these muppets. We need a ranter, at least in the short term.
CheekyStop watching his press conferences then.
What this fascination with 'finishing top 4' is I don't get! We are fast becoming the joke that was levelled at Arsenal for years. This season is gone, accept it, but a club of Utd stature should not reward mediocrity and I'd wager is precisely the reason why so many players out in mediocre performances...lack of accountability.I think once top 4 is mathematically impossible (a matter of time) then he’s gone. Not before.
I think - at least hope - is that people feel that’s when he’ll be sacked, when top four becomes mathematically impossible. I don’t think anyone would be happy if that’s what we were aiming for.What this fascination with 'finishing top 4' is I don't get! We are fast becoming the joke that was levelled at Arsenal for years. This season is gone, accept it, but a club of Utd stature should not reward mediocrity and I'd wager is precisely the reason why so many players out in mediocre performances...lack of accountability.