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Can take over from Southgate.What happens if McCarthy has a brilliant Euro2020?
Can take over from Southgate.What happens if McCarthy has a brilliant Euro2020?
And the over-reaction of the day award goes to Mr. Automaticflare. Your drama skills would be far more suited to theater than redcafe.Absolute pish to be honest. McCarthy is a mid table championship manager FfS
If only double European Championship winner and world cup bronze medalist Brian Kerr had the benefit of working alongside that genius of international football management Mick McCarthy!!!Seconded. I think Delaney has got it right for once in his life. It's the finer details in International football that Kenny just doesn't have that Mick can offer. Kenny will be present at many training sessions to see how Mick prepares the boys. He will be present in the dressing at half time at some big games to see how Mick motivates the players and to learn his tactical set ups against different opposition. All invaluable things to learn that will help him tenfold when he takes over. You look at Kerr and wonder could he have been a lot better had he been a No.2 for a decent International manager for a couple of years as opposed to been thrown in at the deep end without the experience of the finer details at professional International level.
In the meantime playing under Mick will be a bigger draw for English born players as opposed to untested Kenny so hopefully Mick can unearth a few gems that he can develop and pass on to the next bloke in 2 years time
You really need to check your facts on these "English born" players. Finnan was born in Limerick and the others I have highlighted were in the Irish set up at underage level, most before McCarthy was Ireland manager.And the over-reaction of the day award goes to Mr. Automaticflare. Your drama skills would be far more suited to theater than redcafe.
So....if Mick can bring in some English born players that are as good as he brought in last time such as Steven Reid, Matt Holland, Gary Breen, Steve Finnan, Kevin Kilbane, Lee Carsley then this team will start going places. This is Micks strong point.
We lost on peno's against a decent Spain side at Japan 2002 where we'd have gone through to quarter finals had we won after losing out best player a few days before tournament starts. Some managers are more suited to International football than club. Southgate and Roberto Martinez being 2 examples.
If doing well with under age International teams was a guarantee of being a sensation on the professional International stage then why has England not been bending over backwards to offer the senio job role to Steve Cooper and Paul Simpson - both world cup winning managers with England u17 and u20. I have no doubt both of them could be great managers for England first team if they spent 5 years learning under Southgate as No.2's. Kerr had shown he had special man-management skills but what he lacked was 5 years working as a No.2 for a real manager on the world stage. The jump from u20's to senior team is phenomenal. You're dealing with multi-millionaire superstars with crazy big ego's as opposed to hungry young hopefuls earning peanuts who dream of the big-time.If only double European Championship winner and world cup bronze medalist Brian Kerr had the benefit of working alongside that genius of international football management Mick McCarthy!!!
You're right. England would never give the job to a manager who did well at under age level without a 5 year apprenticeship as assistant manager of the senior team. What was Southgate doing again before he got the England job?If doing well with under age International teams was a guarantee of being a sensation on the professional International stage then why has England not been bending over backwards to offer the senio job role to Steve Cooper and Paul Simpson - both world cup winning managers with England u17 and u20. I have no doubt both of them could be great managers for England first team if they spent 5 years learning under Southgate as No.2's. Kerr had shown he had special man-management skills but what he lacked was 5 years working as a No.2 for a real manager on the world stage. The jump from u20's to senior team is phenomenal. You're dealing with multi-millionaire superstars with crazy big ego's as opposed to hungry young hopefuls earning peanuts who dream of the big-time.
You can twist the argument any way you want but the fact of the matter is under Mick and Big Jack we were able to attract players of real International quality who probably considered themselves more English than Irish than that during other mostly disastrous reigns of other Irish managers.
They didn't even tell McCarthy that they had guaranteed someone else his job in 2 years so he might not even realise he's getting Robbie yet.It’ll be interesting to see whether the mooted return for Robbie is an FAI appointment or is it down to Mick. Also, is he potentially going to be foisted upon Stephen Kenny in two years time?
Some stellar names thereAnd the over-reaction of the day award goes to Mr. Automaticflare. Your drama skills would be far more suited to theater than redcafe.
So....if Mick can bring in some English born players that are as good as he brought in last time such as Steven Reid, Matt Holland, Gary Breen, Steve Finnan, Kevin Kilbane, Lee Carsley then this team will start going places. This is Micks strong point.
We lost on peno's against a decent Spain side at Japan 2002 where we'd have gone through to quarter finals had we won after losing out best player a few days before tournament starts. Some managers are more suited to International football than club. Southgate and Roberto Martinez being 2 examples.
That’s horseshit. Then why did they give it to big Sam originally then. It’s like people think the Southgate thing was a grand sxeheme but the FA own hiring disprove that and Southgate fell into the jobYou're right. England would never give the job to a manager who did well at under age level without a 5 year apprenticeship as assistant manager of the senior team. What was Southgate doing again before he got the England job?
Tbf nabbing a lad like Steve Finnan from Limerick is quite the achievement. Heard England were all over an English lad like him.Some stellar names there
Who?Tbf nabbing a lad like Steve Finnan from Limerick is quite the achievement. Heard England were all over an English lad like him.
Some Champions league winner from Limerick, England.Who?
Doesn’t matter:- just googled. Finnan of Liverpool? Hardly a world beater!
The same Liverpool side where Antonio Nunez also won the Champions League? Right, got ya.Some Champions league winner from Limerick, England.
Has Antonio Nunez ever been in Limerick, though?The same Liverpool side where Antonio Nunez also won the Champions League? Right, got ya.
I hold my hands up, just had to Google Limerick. It’s not in England, it’s in Ireland? What’s that guy on about?Has Antonio Nunez ever been in Limerick, though?
Don't know who that is but seems he is Spanish and not from Limerick, England.The same Liverpool side where Antonio Nunez also won the Champions League? Right, got ya.
You’re seriously clutching nowDon't know who that is but seems he is Spanish and not from Limerick, England.
Not sure what some random Spanish guy has to do with the fantastic Englishman Steve Finnan who was named in the PL team of the year.
The glory daysSome stellar names there
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Not horseshit. Sarcasm.That’s horseshit. Then why did they give it to big Sam originally then. It’s like people think the Southgate thing was a grand sxeheme but the FA own hiring disprove that and Southgate fell into the job
He was a fantastic full back. One of the best in the league at his peak.Who?
Doesn’t matter:- just googled. Finnan of Liverpool? Hardly a world beater!
Finnan was on the pitch and won the Champions league with Liverpool in 2005. Steven Reid was an unbelievable player and I remember there were rumours back in the day that Fergie was interested before serious injury wrecked him. The rest were very solid internationals. Jordan Henderson, Eric Dier and James Milner were often hailed as donkeys by England fans until the success in the Russia world cup.Some stellar names there
What exactly is the point of your posts? That we've never had many world class players?You’re seriously clutching now
Only one clutching is you naming some random Spanish player who has nothing to do with the topic or the joke about Limerick. I'm still failing to understand the whole point of your post and what relevance at all some random Spanish player has to Ireland, England, or Finnan.You’re seriously clutching now
He was in the recent squads but the north are trying to poach him. He was in our academy.Barrow had a young Irish lad on loan from Burnley for the 1st half of last season and was absolute quality, head and shoulders above anyone else. I know that was only conference standard but by all accounts he's doing well at Hearts this season. How far away from a cap is he, if anyone knows?
Yeah, that's the reason why i've taken an interest in his career. Looked a proper footballer and not the usual washed up pro or those not quite good enough that you normally see in non league.He was in the recent squads but the north are trying to poach him. He was in our academy.
Henderson etc ARE donkeys though. That list of players you listed though were not very good, just my opinion.Finnan was on the pitch and won the Champions league with Liverpool in 2005. Steven Reid was an unbelievable player and I remember there were rumours back in the day that Fergie was interested before serious injury wrecked him. The rest were very solid internationals. Jordan Henderson, Eric Dier and James Milner were often hailed as donkeys by England fans until the success in the Russia world cup.
Why so touchy? I didn’t say that at all. I simply don’t rate the list the of players the poster above listed.What exactly is the point of your posts? That we've never had many world class players?
You didn't even know who he was and had to google him!Henderson etc ARE donkeys though. That list of players you listed though were not very good, just my opinion.
Finnan we’ll all have to agree to disagree. He was an ok player, nothing special.
No, I didn’t know he meant Finnan of Liverpool. I didn’t know he ever played for Ireland.You didn't even know who he was and had to google him!
Wow. That's one of the most simplistic arguments I've ever read!No, I didn’t know he meant Finnan of Liverpool. I didn’t know he ever played for Ireland.
Again, he was ok. But we’re going around in circles now. If you’re Irish you rate him. If you’re not Irish, you don’t rate him.