Yeah Pogba the World Cup-winner is certainly a clown, would be much better with McTominay who hasn’t shown anything he’s even a Championship-player. Fergie would love to work with Pogba, and not least he would have utilized his strengths every single game.
What do you think Fergie is thinking as he sits and watches these games?
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He was against appointing Mourinho from day one. So not difficult to guess what he is thinking.
Let's be honest. fergie would not have brought back Pogba.
Fergie also had earmarked a route for McTominay into the first team. It's also well known Fergie loved a homegrown squad player...McTominay would've be given every chance possible to prove his worth...
McTominay is not good enough for a top club. Neither are most of them currently playing for that matter. But it is Fergie's mistake that we are in this position. It is a chain reaction of him anointing Moyes in the first place that has led to this. I do not believe now that had we appointed Jose after Fergie that we would have played good football. Jose would not play the football we played under Fergie.
One thing is for sure. Watching that crap football is not helping his recovery. He probably sits there shaking his head saying "WTF" repeatedly
If he's smart he'd spend most of the match scrolling through Twitter instead of actually paying attention like I end up doing now.
I bet you after the games and watching that pile of sh*te he is bursting to get down to that dressing room and dish out a screaming to them all.. including Jose... Probably mostly Jose
Every game, you make me look better and better.
To be honest, he started the rot so he should be feeling a bit guilty. Add to the fact he covered for the Glazers for years, so yeah..
Fergie’s mistake? The man made us into the most succesful club in England, was it really his duty to keep babysitting the club past his retirement, as well as planning what the club had to so past his retirement? That’s absolutely ridiculous, it was Gill’s and the owners duty much more than it was Fergie’s.
I’m positive Moyes wasn’t his first choice as a successor, and even if he was the process should’ve been far more diligent than that.
In no top functioning business, the manager should be choosing his successor, let alone delivering the news! (WTF!) he should be allowed to voice his opinion but that’s about it.
It looks like the whole club was on the man’s shoulders and the people who were supposed to be above him were slacking, week in week out.
Not saying he left the team in a great shape for his successor, but blaming him for the club’s incompetence is absurd.
A manager of Mourinho's calibre would have come in and venerated players like Rio/Vidic/Evra/ Rooney/RVP which would have benefited the players we currently have that played under Ferguson.
Moyes came in like an opposition manager who didn't rate any of our players. I always thought that he had a bit of hatred towards us but believed he was mandated by Ferguson to shit his Everton spell all over the club. Back room staff gone, utter failure to prepare for the job cemented by the fact he took 2 weeks holidays before he started instead of preparing to manage one of the biggest sports clubs in the world. What an arrogant cnut he was.
We may not have been playing champagne football, neither was Ferguson in his last few years but our club legends would have had a happier transition out of the club leaving behind that United ethos for the younger players and new signings. Moyes was a terrible error by the club as was letting the manager and CEO leave at the same time.
There is no easy fix for us now and there is no Alex Ferguson around the corner hungry to take on a challange like United. We will never get that swashbuckling football back unless some of these club legends take up a coaching role with us. I would love to see Rooney, Evra and Rio join our coaching team to see if we can get the club back on track. The football may not be the same but Pogba, Lukaku and Sanchez wouldn't get away with those performances and the dross wouldn't get near the starting 11 outside of cup games.
Jose came too late and in no way does he have or deserve a future here after the summer. Ed also needs to step aside from football matters as he is shit at it. This club wasn't founded in 1992, we have had bad seasons and mismanagement before but the big problem now is that there are recent examples of how to do it properly and successfully yet we fecking ignore it. This club has taken the piss out if liverpool for the last 25 years and we are doing exactly what they did to make us point and laugh.
We are a fecking joke right now. Our CEO thinks he's a football manager, our owners are the type of people that throw their free merchandise in the bin after the match is over and our manager is just repeating his routine with no effort to get this team playing proper because he hates half of them and the other half are shit. And let's be honest, at least 15 of our 22 man squad are average at best and earning too much money for the shite they serve up every week. Our senior players like Valencia, Young and Smalling have utterly failed at instilling the meaning and pride of playing for United and our big money signings have even given up the illusion of competency or consistency.
We are in dire straits right now and if the season continues the way it started we should be thankful if we finish in the top 10. All this can of course change with one signing of a coach or player but I just don't see anyone out there that can do it or has the balls to do it. Kinda hoping Nicky Butt shows something that may start ticking the boxes.
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I think Moyes genuinely expected to see his five years out. I think he planned to use his first year to assess the squad hence the minimal changes to the squad
WTF
You’re absolutely right! That is why he took that vacation, he really thought he had time, poor bloke had no idea he was getting the sack after the Everton match.
Fantastic Insightful post, Sir! Bravo.
Nonsense.
About 100+ bad things stemming from bad management across the club since he left, so it's ridiculous to say He started the rot.
People need to let it go......he papered over the cracks
If he's anything like your average bloke over the age of 50 sat there bored and freezing your wotsits off the only thing you think about is should you go for a pee now, or try and hang on till half-time/full-time.
He did start the rot though, like it or not. He made sure his mini me Moyes (a guy who had won nothing prior) was appointed and he had let the squad get worse and worse his last few years, all the while covering for the Glazers.
What if he wanted to spend as little as possible and let his successor get that famous warchest to spend on the players he wanted and shape the team in his own way?
Yes it is Fergie's mistake. He anointed Moyes. He thought that Moyes was the man and that Moyes would listen to his advice. Good advice like to keep the backroom staff. In fact Fergie has gone on record to tell Moyes that it is a well oiled machine and to let it run smoothly. Yes I agree that Fergie was not to know that Moyes was going to make a balls of it. But his mistake was anointing Moyes.
It wasn’t his job to “appoint a manager” to begin with.
I don’t know why are you so persistent with this notion that SAF appointed Moyes, it surely wasn’t solely his decision, that is a messes up view you have, and you’re incredibly persistent with it.
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What happened to the 4-4-2?
“Arnautovic is the answer to our problems”
People blaming SAF for our demise 
It is not his fault the three mangers after him have been pony.
It is not his fault the three mangers after him have been pony.
I think he is likely laughing ... if anything it is only enhancing his time there even more, not that that’s necessary, but he’s probably buzzing his head off.
When you see 500,000 a week Sanchez on the bench each week then you realize why Fergie was against the idea of Jose. I remember there were calls for Roberto Martinez or Pochettino just after he quit but the feeling was neither were experienced enough.
Wayne Rooney came back for England for one more game, whats Howard Webb doing?
"Should of stayed home and had a wank instead of watching this dull shite."
Insightful? It was a fantasy story.Fantastic Insightful post, Sir! Bravo.
“We are fecked”
I doubt it.
Absolute rubbish.
It seems not many here understand the character of Sir Alex, which is quite bizarre considering how long he spent leading us.
To think people believe he's pleased that United are failing because it makes him look good
. Got news for you, he already looks fvcking good, he won 38 trophies for us, and there's zero chance he would take pleasure in watching this giant he helped build more than anyone collapse in front of him, particularly while our two nearest rivals are playing so well and one of them is actually winning the title.
To think people believe he's pleased that United are failing because it makes him look good
. Got news for you, he already looks fvcking good, he won 38 trophies for us, and there's zero chance he would take pleasure in watching this giant he helped build more than anyone collapse in front of him, particularly while our two nearest rivals are playing so well and one of them is actually winning the title.Well he got the first one appointed, and left him with a rotting side. So he isn't the angel your pointing out unfortunately.People blaming SAF for our demise
It is not his fault the three mangers after him have been pony.
Wish I hadn't recommended Moyes so they couldn't trace this shit back to me.
Yes he put in a recommendation for Moyes, but what do you expect him to do after that, hold his hand through his 6 year contract? He give Moyes his advice which was swiftly ignored so the rest is not on him.
And the side was not rotting. Moyes had a foundation of extreme experience plus a good group of young players to build on going forward but he choose to tear it all apart.
None of it is on Sir Alex.
Not sure how he tore anything apart to be honest. He made minimal changes to the playing staff and brought his own coaching staff which is par for the course. In terms of the squad well there was an abundance of midfielders. It was too large (30+ players). There was an ageing first team. So apart from De Gea in the first team the side needed complete rebuilding. Only Evans, Rafael and DDG were under 27 years of age in 2013 and in my humble opinion Rafael and Evans are not first team MU quality players.
SAF shying away from a rebuilding job? Are you having a laugh? The man was 70 and had done several rebuilding jobs before. Everyone has a time to retire. If he did it at 80 or 90, people would still be claiming the same.