The Mourinho Thread: Should he stay or go? | Sacked

[Rolaholic]

The Jose spin doctors can conjure up whatever excuses they want but the stats are quite
resounding as they are damning...

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He's become a leech sucking the life out of a once great and proud football club

 

[Fracture90]

No. Ed should have structured the football side better lending itself to better recruitment and better contract renewal intelligence across the club. That means how he has dealt with Mou's contract and everything else! He's ultimately where the buck ends, not Mou. The latter is showing himself incapable.....the one above him is displaying the same. Same structure, diff manager wont bring us to the top....it will bring us to top 4. Who cares for that as an end game!

My point was, even now they won't point any direct criticism towards their idol.

For what is worth I'm blaming Woodward for both LVG and Mouinho since the day 1.

 

[Foxbatt]

He IS taking the piss in the post match conference. It is time for the plane.

 

[Minimalist]

The Jose spin doctors can wece whatever excuses they want but the stats are quite
resounding and damning...

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He's become a leech sucking the life out of a once great and proud football club

Cheers for that. Backs up what others have found in their fact-checking.

 

[Foxbatt]

He’s trying his best to get the sack

Why doesn't he poke Woodward in the eye? Surely then he will get the sack. It is not something he has not done in the past.

 

[Adisa]

It feels like death.

 

[FootyGirl88]

Why doesn't he poke Woodward in the eye? Surely then he will get the sack. It is not something he has not done in the past.

Petty

 

[Fracture90]

Funny, that's a pretty poor attempt at mind games. You are posting all over the place in the Mourinho threads, so it's not exactly hard to come across your posts.

Surely you have to agree that there are bigger issues at the club than Mourinho (and for the 100th time, yes he got to go)

Mind games or not, you're always looking for a way to latch onto my comments. And now started hallucinating the sight of me considering this gotta be the only Mourinho dedicated thread I'm posting in. The other 2 aren't really Mourinho dedicated ones, but oh well whatever floats your boat.

Since the day one I'm holding Woodward responsible for appointing both LVG and Mourinho.

 

[Danny_]

He should stay and be given the time he needs to fix it.

 

[K2K]

He should stay and be given the time he needs to fix it.

Sensible.

 

[RedorDead21]

The Jose spin doctors can conjure up whatever excuses they want but the stats are quite
resounding as they are damning...

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He's become a leech sucking the life out of a once great and proud football club

A great club....or just a great manager in SAF.......pre and post him we are here.

 

[VeevaVee]

And still get's £15M.... it's bloody out of order that attitude and an insult to fans.

Those clauses in football are a joke. There needs to be a negative side to failing and clubs not being scared to sack because of it. It's not like they'll be out on their arse like a normal person.

 

[SirAF]

Mind games or not, you're always looking for a way to latch onto my comments. And now started hallucinating the sight of me considering this gotta be the only Mourinho dedicated thread I'm posting in. The other 2 aren't really Mourinho dedicated ones, but oh well whatever floats your boat.

Since the day one I'm holding Woodward responsible for appointing both LVG and Mourinho.

Basically all of your posts are about Mourinho in some way or another I mean, there are other interesting subjects at this forum too (even other forums). Why bother complaining all the time? What joy do you derive from that?

Mourinho will be the manager of Manchester United until he, formally, can't deliver CL football - then he will be sacked.

 

[deafepl]

No. Ed should have structured the football side better lending itself to better recruitment and better contract renewal intelligence across the club. That means how he has dealt with Mou's contract and everything else! He's ultimately where the buck ends, not Mou. The latter is showing himself incapable.....the one above him is displaying the same. Same structure, diff manager wont bring us to the top....it will bring us to top 4. Who cares for that as an end game!

Funny thing is He started this in early 2016 during the LVG having the worst season and it was known he is going to get sacked. Gill perhaps could have done better before appointed Moyes, rebuilding structure from the academy,y to scouting to the staff, Moye even said our scouting is really bad and outdated.

 

[Needham]

A reminder of the early table for that awful LVG season (late November).

Team P GD Pts
1 Leicester 13 8 28
2 Man Utd 13 10 27
3 Man City 13 14 26
4 Arsenal 13 12 26
5 Tottenham 12 10 21

Least we had some positivity early on.

Leicester so lucky SAF retired.

 

[FootyGirl88]

We need new owners and a new CEO while we're at it.

 

[Joseunited]

He should stay and be given the time he needs to fix it.

 

[UnRational]

He should stay and be given the time he needs to fix it.

What like Bob the builder

 

[redspoony]

He just needs to feck off.

 

[Judas]

Has he gone yet? Is there any noise WHAT so ever of him being in danger?

As much as I believe he'll survive till we're out of the top 4 race officially, I really can't stomach much more of this.

 

[soap]

Mourinho isn't the only one to blame and sacking him won't even come close to solving all of our problems, but it needs to happen regardless. He's been a complete failure. We have absolutely no fluency in attack and a woefully imbalanced squad which he has had five transfer windows to fix.

Correct me if I'm wrong here - as I understand it, the only times Woodward hasn't backed him are with Perisic (£48m), Maguire (£60m) and Alderweireld, because Spurs wanted Martial as part of the deal. If that's correct then he's should be thankful Woodward vetoed each of those.

 

[Fracture90]

Basically all of your posts are about Mourinho in some way or another I mean, there are other interesting subjects at this forum too (even other forums). Why bother complaining all the time? What joy do you derive from that?

Mourinho will be the manager of Manchester United until he, formally, can't deliver CL football - then he will be sacked.

So now it's not threads but posts? Wish you would settle on which one is it.

Is suppose it's much like you constantly moaning about those that are complaining about how Mourinho has managed to fek us up.

But then again by your own admission you decided to support United...

 

[Utdstar01]

Annoying that there were such shit pundits in the studio after the game. Scholes and Rio have probably had enough though tbh. Everyone has had enough of it. I'm just drained from it all now and nothing surprises me anymore.

 

[Canagel]

We can't get Spurs best players guys . Don't compare us to past successful United teams
IIf only we got Alderweireld we wouldve been in the top 4 .

 

[SirAF]

So now it's not threads but posts? Wish you would settle on which one is it.

Is suppose it's much like you constantly moaning about those that are complaining about how Mourinho has managed to fek us up.

But then again by your own admission you decided to support United...

Doesn't make a difference, does it?

The last sentence appears to have been meant like a low blow, but it really doesn't work...Everyone decides on a team to follow - don't kid yourself. You're not exactly from Mancunia yourself.

 

[Fracture90]

Doesn't make a difference, does it?

The last sentence appears to have been meant like a low blow, but it really doesn't work...Everyone decides on a team to follow - don't kid yourself. You're not exactly from Mancunia yourself.

Well it does if we're to have a meaningful discussion you can't keep changing your arguments and shifting stances.

Not a low blow but I was trying to understand how come you're not all that phased by just how poor we are (beside your obvious admiration for Mourinho) then it hit me it gotta be because you had a luxury of deciding you gonna support United.

 

[Neal Johnson]

This is getting scarily like Liverpools decline in the early 90’s. The soul and identity of the club has all but disappeared, managers changing every couple of years, player recruitment strategy of buying names rather than developing a long term way of playing, and fans too impatient to give it time.

It’s taken Klopp 3 years to build his team and Liverpool have won nothing, but look good now, but probably still won’t win the league. City have the best manager in the world and more money than anyone else and buy £200m worth of fullbacks.

No matter if Mourinho stays or goes it’s at least 2 years to fix this and probably £500m to spend. Even then there is no guarantee, this is just the way it is, 1992-2013 was unreal, but it won’t happen again, it wouldn’t surprise me if it was another ten years to win anoth PL

 

[simenthom]

Good manager, but really not the right guy for us. Hope to get someone positive and young talents.

 

[Tom Van Persie]

Annoying that there were such shit pundits in the studio after the game. Scholes and Rio have probably had enough though tbh. Everyone has had enough of it. I'm just drained from it all now and nothing surprises me anymore.

I was disappointed to see no Rio or Scholes tonight. Would've loved to have heard their immediate reactions to the game.

 

[SirAF]

Well it does if we're to have a meaningful discussion you can't keep changing your arguments and shifting stances.

Not a low blow but I was trying to understand how come you're not all that phased by just how poor we are (beside your obvious admiration for Mourinho) then it hit me it gotta be because you had a luxury of deciding you gonna support United.

No, no that's nonsense. There is no difference in what I said - at least not a tangible one.

My admiration for Mourinho got nothing to do with why I'm "not all that phased" by how poor United are. I obviously care, and I think it's fecking shit that United are in this predicament - HOWEVER - I am also 30 years old and my personal happiness is not affected by how my favorite football team is doing. That doesn't mean that I don't care or that I can't be annoyed at certain views on this forum that I don't agree with - but it's not the end of the bloody world and it shouldn't be for anyone.

 

[Adisa]

I can't take much more of this tbh. This is torture.

 

[Tom Van Persie]

I can't take much more of this tbh. This is torture.

Same here. @SirAF and @Fracture90 should get a room.

 

[UnRational]

Same here. @SirAF and @Fracture90 should get a room.

 

[SirAF]

Same here. @SirAF and @Fracture90 should get a room.

I'm not paying.

 

[Fracture90]

No, no that's nonsense. There is no difference in what I said - at least not a tangible one.

My admiration for Mourinho got nothing to do with why I'm "not all that phased" by how poor United are. I obviously care, and I think it's fecking shit that United are in this predicament - HOWEVER - I am also 30 years old and my personal happiness is not affected by how my favorite football team is doing. That doesn't mean that I don't care or that I can't be annoyed at certain views on this forum that I don't agree with - but it's not the end of the bloody world and it shouldn't be for anyone.

Well it's certainly the case when it doesn't suit you. I faintly remember you often resorting to quite petty stuff the likes of spelling, grammar, semantics etc when it suited you as.

Well one would think that in those 30 years you'd realize by now that not 2 people are the same, right? Just because you don't feel like discussing football related stuff on a football related forum, it doesn't mean everyone should stop doing so, won't you agree?

I mean I appreciate you challenging your inner Oprah and drawing from those 30 years of experience in order to give me all those zen advices, but it's really not necessary. Heck you're probably better off taking your own advice you gave today to another 2 posters in that press conference related thread.

 

[RedorDead21]

I'll don't care if Zidane speaks a reversal of Del Boys French at this stage.

 

[Fracture90]

Same here. @SirAF and @Fracture90 should get a room.

I'm not paying.

We'll split it, 3's not a crowd.

 

[Thiagoal]

SAF was successful as he bought characters and selected players that would die for the club! We have a team of mercenaries who couldn't give a fcuk about the club or the fans! Rotten to the very core!

 

[SirAF]

Well it's certainly the case when it doesn't suit you. I faintly remember you often resorting to quite petty stuff the likes of spelling, grammar, semantics etc when it suited you as.

Well one would think that in those 30 years you'd realize by now that not 2 people are the same, right? Just because you don't feel like discussing football related stuff on a football related forum, it doesn't mean everyone should stop doing so, won't you agree?

I mean I appreciate you challenging your inner Oprah and drawing from those 30 years of experience in order to give me all those zen advices, but it's really not necessary. Heck you're probably better off taking your own advice you gave today to another 2 posters in that press conference related thread.

I bet it helped you, though? I'm nothing, if not a giver.

Look, you are trying to run away with my arguments again. I LIKE engaging on RedCafe - I was just answering your question about how you thought I "wasn't phased" about United's lack of success. I fear for any adult actually being seriously impacted by football - that doesn't mean that I don't enjoy discussing all things United.

It's not like I am following you - it's just simply not possible to avoid seeing that you are constantly posting about Mourinho - I don't get that but it does sort of explain your walkabout during that period where United were doing quite well and there wasn't much to complain about. So, when you and the other usual suspects keep banging on about the same old boring stuff I'll be here to rebuff what I find suitable to rebuff.

Is it not far more interesting to take a look at where the club should be going in the bigger picture rather than taking pot shots at a manager that most likely is gone in June? He's an issue - but he's not THE issue.

We'll split it, 3's not a crowd.

Are you suggesting what I think you are..?

 

[Utdstar01]

Quite clear he doesn't stimulate the players hence why they look so bored, demotivated and a shadow of themselves. Clearly there's work to be done to the squad but we should be top 4 minimum with the players we have.