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The Mourinho Thread: Should he stay or go? | Sacked

Is Mourinho’s time as United manager up?

  • Yes

    Votes: 2,296 77.1%
  • No

    Votes: 293 9.8%
  • Not yet - needs more time to see if he can turn it around

    Votes: 388 13.0%

  • Total voters
    2,977
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Suvvernmanc

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Has he gone yet? Is there any noise WHAT so ever of him being in danger?

As much as I believe he'll survive till we're out of the top 4 race officially, I really can't stomach much more of this.
I can't watch it at all. I played the PlayStation with my kids. I like so many other fans dont enjoy it to the point where id rather do anything but endure the shite that Jose serves us on and off the pitch. It's shite and I won't put myself through it anymore
 

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I bet it helped you, though? I'm nothing, if not a giver.

Look, you are trying to run away with my arguments again. I LIKE engaging on RedCafe - I was just answering your question about how you thought I "wasn't phased" about United's lack of success. I fear for any adult actually being seriously impacted by football - that doesn't mean that I don't enjoy discussing all things United.

It's not like I am following you - it's just simply not possible to avoid seeing that you are constantly posting about Mourinho - I don't get that but it does sort of explain your walkabout during that period where United were doing quite well and there wasn't much to complain about. So, when you and the other usual suspects keep banging on about the same old boring stuff I'll be here to rebuff what I find suitable to rebuff.

Is it not far more interesting to take a look at where the club should be going in the bigger picture rather than taking pot shots at a manager that most likely is gone in June? He's an issue - but he's not THE issue.
Are you suggesting what I think you are..?
For someone who likes engaging on Caf, you're pretty quick to suppress people that are interested in assessing Mourinho's role in the mess we're currently in. Some might even say you're awfully sensitive when that topic is raised. All that 'why bother when he won't be sacked until it's mathematically impossible to reach top 4' is just a very convenient way to try and shut down any criticism pointed towards Mourinho.

Who's playing mind games now, eh mate?

You're not following but somehow you always latch onto my comments, one might say you're trying to get me back for something. I wasn't there both for good and nad performances, right?

Why limit yourself to just one? Why not discuss all 3? Past, present and future, after all I'm often banging about the importance of having a DoF with actual executive power and longterm plan for the club, but since you never latched onto those comments, it's safe to suggest you're not interested in those discussions. Agenda maybe?
 

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I’m so tired of us. It’s like Finger in the wind formation and tactics each game followed by drawing names out of a tombola to fill each position. Can we not just pick a favoured 11 and stick with it? This goes beyond squad rotation.
 

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I hope someone is studying us really hard at the moment. Simply so when Jose is sacked they have an idea of what to do to get us back on track and salvage this embarrassing season.
 

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Just can't wrap my head around the fact Mourinho wants the players to play quick create chances then picks a team with McTominay, Luaku, Matic and Fellaini in there while we have players in Fred and Pereira who can give you that but can't get a look in.

Does he realise that the players he picks can't give him that style of play or what? Doesn't know what he's doing anymore.
 

RedorDead21

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SAF was successful as he bought characters and selected players that would die for the club! We have a team of mercenaries who couldn't give a fcuk about the club or the fans! Rotten to the very core!
This is factually incorrect. He showed those players would die for him. Once he left.....that same squad couldn't repeat performance levels. Something I realised 5 seconds ago. Afew posts back I was saying the players who blame a manager for poor performance are weak......seems even his players were like that!
 

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Saw an interesting tweet just now

"At a football club Jose would be gone. At a business, he stays until it is cheapest to sack him. So he stays."

It's indicative of the way we've run our club for far too long now.
 

SirAF

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For someone who likes engaging on Caf, you're pretty quick to suppress people that are interested in assessing Mourinho's role in the mess we're currently in. Some might even say you're awfully sensitive when that topic is raised. All that 'why bother when he won't be sacked until it's mathematically impossible to reach top 4' is just a very convenient way to try and shut down any criticism pointed towards Mourinho.

Who's playing mind games now, eh mate?

You're not following but somehow you always latch onto my comments, one might say you're trying to get me back for something. I wasn't there both for good and nad performances, right?

Why limit yourself to just one? Why not discuss all 3? Past, present and future, after all I'm often banging about the importance of having a DoF with actual executive power and longterm plan for the club, but since you never latched onto those comments, it's safe to suggest you're not interested in those discussions. Agenda maybe?
Convenient, but very true. Like it or not, United are stuck with him until top four is gone and Ed is ready to pull the trigger.

Don’t be paranoid, I’m not looking to «get» anyone - but your absence was certainly conspicuous during that period.

You are wrong, I’d be very interested in talking about a DoF role (just not at this hour!). I do agree that such a role (with the right person) would be a good way forward.

Why discussing world piece and how to battle climate changes, what else?
This is a bait right? :D
 

Eddy_JukeZ

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Did our manager even try to win today?

It was obvious the system was amounting to nothing in the 2nd half and he kept at it.

Just made like for like substitutions in attack and 1 forced sub.

That's it.

Appalling.
 

Robbie Boy

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The audacity of the Mourinho apologists clogging this thread up before the match today. Did they actually think their opinions would be vindicated come tonight?
 

RedorDead21

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Did our manager even try to win today?

It was obvious the system was amounting to nothing in the 2nd half and he kept at it.

Just made like for like substitutions in attack and 1 forced sub.

That's it.

Appalling.
From the same manager who really defined how decisive subs could be.........
 

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The Jose spin doctors can conjure up whatever excuses they want but the stats are quite
resounding as they are damning...


He's become a leech sucking the life out of a once great and proud football club
I was saying that the other day. His record up to this part of the season is the worst.
 

Eddy_JukeZ

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I said a while back on redcafe that I believe Jose won't ever win a league title again in a top 4 league.

He's no longer a top manager. The game has passed him by like Wenger ironically.
 

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He is trying his hardest to get the sack and a mega payout !!! Lost all respect for the Man. Just Go, Jose...the squad will pull up their socks and fight as soon as you leave!
 

VeevaVee

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I mean, it's obviously a matter of when rather than if. So when do we think? As much as I want him gone, I think Jan might be a more appropriate time to bring a new manager in. A rough busy period would be incredibly difficult for a new manager to come in and be instantly under fire from. Unless Carrick is caretaker and rides it out.
I expect us to painfully drag it on in true United style though.
 

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Woodward can leave also, after giving Jose a contract extension with a mega payout when getting sacked.
 

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We need mad dogs in midfield, apparently.
We also need new defenders, a winger, a new striker, kitchen sink, Blu-ray collection of Die Hard, one of those big boxes of Reece's Pieces from Costco, a touch activated desk lamp, seven fridge magnets that say Isle of Wight with dodgy spelling, and a copy of "Not My Fault, Guv".
 

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He should go, his tactics are dated, the football is dire and crucially, he's sucked the life out of many long time supporters. But, how much is going to change when he leaves?

Everyone can see the issue, the whole structure needs a complete overhaul and that starts with Woodward dropping the football side of his role and moving onto focus purely on sponsorship deals. A DOF FINALLY needs to come in.

Without the above, I'm worried the next manager is destined to fail in the current structure, no matter how good they are.
 

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The Pidge said:
We also need new defenders, a winger, a new striker, kitchen sink, Blu-ray collection of Die Hard, one of those big boxes of Reece's Pieces from Costco, a touch activated desk lamp, seven fridge magnets that say Isle of Wight with dodgy spelling, and a copy of "Not My Fault, Guv".
:lol:
 

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The only reason why he is still here is because it is seen as too expensive to sack him. Lack of forethought, club is haemorrhaging in all other departments and very soon the revenues will dwindle.
 

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Sat slumped in his chair, gesticulating to himself like a spolit child whilst the game drifted away

Maybe get up off your arse and try to affect something Jose! The players are merely reflecting what he's putting out there.

This guy used to be one of the most animated coaches in the world. He's give up, give him his money and feck him off
 

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I mean, it's obviously a matter of when rather than if. So when do we think? As much as I want him gone, I think Jan might be a more appropriate time to bring a new manager in. A rough busy period would be incredibly difficult for a new manager to come in and be instantly under fire from. Unless Carrick is caretaker and rides it out.
I expect us to painfully drag it on in true United style though.
It could be as early as next weekend. A poor result against Arsenal in midweek followed by an equally poor one against Fulham might just be the straw that breaks the camels back.

Ed did not look best pleased at any point during the Southampton debacle.
 

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Why did we need a back 3?

Any decent manager isn’t going to play mctominay as a centre back ffs
 

Jed I. Knight

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We also need new defenders, a winger, a new striker, kitchen sink, Blu-ray collection of Die Hard, one of those big boxes of Reece's Pieces from Costco, a touch activated desk lamp, seven fridge magnets that say Isle of Wight with dodgy spelling, and a copy of "Not My Fault, Guv".
Excellent, I'll send that list over to Ed so he can get to working on it, stat. Not too late to turn this around! I think he should manage to get a meeting with a few lawyers about those fridge magnets before the transfer window shuts again.
 

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His throwing players under the bus is a disgrace.

I remember an interview with SAF, one of his core principles was to always support the players. Of course bollock them when they play poorly, but how often did you hear Fergie go on record to the press about players letting the team down?

Jose seems to do it most weeks, he just throws them under the bus as if he had no part in the poor performance.
 

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What will happen if we get beaten on weds by Arsenal and then the following week by Liverpool?? Will the board act and do what's best.
 

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I'll give chelsea credit for one thing. They certainly know how to move on from a manager.

Jose is basically turning MUFC into Chelsea 2.0 over Xmas and our crap club won't sack him because of some stupid idea that we won't sack managers till top 4 is mathematically impossible.

Got up at 1:30am to watch this fecking flaming garbage and MUFC essentially played football for 10 mins because they felt embarrassed. They got it back to a draw and then said "well that's enough".

feck this club and its mediocre BS.
 
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