Mourinho Gone

[Kaos]

I just want to enjoy watching us again, so I can get behind risking it all for Poch. Getting tired of us recruiting dinosaurs trying to grind out results in tepid fashion while other top teams are playing swashbuckling football.

Zidane doesn’t excite me in the slightest beyond the fact he’s Zinedine Zidane.

 

[Salus Populi Suprema Lex]

So you keep saying, but actually that's not accurate.

Anyhow, the point is that it's delusional to imagine that Pochettino, just one year after signing a new, long-term contract, is going to abandon Spurs and (likely) CL football next season to come manage a dysfunctional mess in the Europa League.

The chance to manage Manchester United doesn't come around everyday. I hope we at least give him a decision to make by approaching Spurs.

 

[LilyWhiteSpur]

Football changes very quickly, you would have to be foolish to think otherwise. He doesn't have a guaranteed trajectory. Let's remember he's never even won anything.

I have said anything is possible, we can’t only make educated opinions from the information we have at hand. United supporters think he will leave cause of the United draw and the money, Spurs fans see the new contract he has signed and everything he has said in the last year. That’s what we should base our opinion on as to whether Poch will go, we will be butting heads for the next 6 months.

 

[Fredo]

Thank you Jose but good riddance!

 

[TMDaines]

So you keep saying, but actually that's not accurate.

Anyhow, the point is that it's delusional to imagine that Pochettino, just one year after signing a new, long-term contract, is going to abandon Spurs and (likely) CL football next season to come manage a dysfunctional mess in the Europa League.

It's accurate if you include Community Shields, otherwise it is three major cups each, but still that's a bit fecking sad isn't it.

 

[fallengt]

Hated him as United manager but never hated him as a person and still don't. His first year and Ibra were the best things happened for us since Fergie left.
No ill feeling toward him he tried and the truth is Jose's personality is great when things go his way. Football do need people like him.

Thank you Jose, I wish you well.

 

[Ultimate_L]

Genuinely don't understand how as happy as we all are that finding out such a moment has happened that we're aiming to rush this through as quickly as possible to find a replacement. Give Carrick the temporary role, take the few months needed to vet out a competent manager and take the right moves. I've read that SKY Sports mentioned an external appointment.. I'm just genuinely happy we have actually taken a positive step in the right direction!

 

[Revan]

It wouldn't. I've said this again and again, if your manager decides to leave there's nothing you can do as a club.

If he wants to come all he has to do is make enough of a fuss about it at Spurs.

Obviously a manager can make it very easy to "get sacked", though that would be highly unprofessional behavior. While players get away with it, I am not sure that the same goes for the manager.

Poch doesn't look the type who would do it. If we want him we should talk with him, and assuming that he wants to come (big assumption) then talk with Spurs in order to release him from his contract.

 

[Witchking]

I wanted him gone. But I also feel sad for him hope he can get back to the top.

 

[Pogue Mahone]

Don't know. I am just feeling very bad for him. But happy for the club! Atleast that's what I wanted but this feels very strange.

I feel bad for him too. Professionally, his reputation is in tatters. And that's a shitty thing for any man to endure. But the fact he's made so much money makes me feel a little less sorry for him. He can take a long sabbatical now, with his family, and never needs to work again. As someone who is not far off his age, I can only dream of spending my late middle age the way he is able to do now, thanks in large part to the money he earned from the club I support. A club I almost had to stop watching, thanks to him.

 

[Member 39557]

So you keep saying, but actually that's not accurate.

Anyhow, the point is that it's delusional to imagine that Pochettino, just one year after signing a new, long-term contract, is going to abandon Spurs and (likely) CL football next season to come manage a dysfunctional mess in the Europa League.

True, it's the same amount of trophies, not more.

 

[TommiHelm]

Good, I guess, feeling a bit apathetic about it all. Just another short term "fix". Get rid of Woody and Pogba too, and I may start to believe in the long term future of the club again.

 

[Lucky number 7]

Pay the bucks and get him from spurs along with a director of football, we’ve just had a manager who won European cups, leagues in every country... we need stability and fresh ideas.

 

[Hoof the ball]

Pogba posted a picture of himself ten minutes ago with a smirk on his face and wrote, “captions?”

He’s deleted it now

 

[Inigo Montoya]

Apologies, but I read this in a completely wrong and highly sexual way and will read more carefully in future.

So.You had a'woody,' when you heard?

 

[Dennis Viollet]

Gary Neville

 

[Cloud7]

It will be nice for us to not be at each other’s throats all the time now. The civil war is finally over. Time to reconnect the fractured fan base !

 

[Samid]

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[Gandalf Greyhame]

Not really, they played that way when they won the title but Jardim isn't really known to be a very attacking manager

No Jardim doesn't attack a lot, it happened one season with a set of players that weren't good defensively but very good going forward. Otherwise he is balanced.

Jardim isn't necessarily outdated, but I don't think you're going to see tangible improvement from him vis-à-vis Mourinho when you consider some of the things the latter is criticized for. For instance, the rudimentary nature of his attacking schemes where the team is just asked to counter and the success is predicated on individual quality and athleticism on the break (worked really well in Madrid for a bit — less so at Chelsea II and United, particularly when the defensive balance was disrupted), but Jardim is the same in a lot of ways — and even with peak Monaco, his inability to formulate diverse/intelligent attacking patterns and install a more exhaustive attacking scheme was exploited by Allegri in the Champions League, for reference. He's rightly lauded for Monaco's sizzling attack with Mbappé and Falcao and Silva and Lemar, but that was an anomaly for his career — a perfect storm where he gave in and the forwards ran riot with Mendy/Sidibé on the overlap. Apart from that high, his teams are generally quite cagey, and don't score a lot of goals for, either...if you consider some of his teams over the last decade:

1.8 goals per game at Braga
2.1 goals per game at Olympiakos
1.3 goals per game at Beira Mar
2.2 goals per game at SCP
1.3 league goals per game in his first season at Monaco, 1.5 league goals per game in the second

Even though José isn't in the best moment of his career right now, he's still a better manager than Jardim — United must avoid the honey-trap of employing a non-elite coach just to get rid of Mourinho...the grass isn't always greener, etc.

Some points on Jardim from people who know a bit more about Jardim than the others. I remember looking him up and thinking he might be a great fit, but he's not going to base his team around attack.

 

[TsuWave]

How about:

Allegri?
Simeone ?

so you liked mourinho then?

 

[Chairman Steve]

Can we send him a DVD of Andy Robertson’s runs as a Christmas present. He seems to really like those.

 

[Needham]

Let's promise him a new stadium

 

[Green_Red]

We are in free fall

 

[matt10000]

Poch for me

 

[OT1214]

Evra maybe? He was spotted with Ed a few times this season.

 

[NinjaZombie]

• Totttenham lure as a football club is growing. With London fan base and strong connections to the city, they remain an attractive propositiion for all young footballers.
• Daniel Levy is the best chairman in football who likes to hold on to his best assets
• With new stadium just round the corner it's clear as a day that Tottenham is set to become England's biggest club within the next 10 years
• Over the last two years they managed to not lose to Barcelona, Dortmund and Real Madrid in the group stages of Champions League for two consecutive seasons, providing England with some of the best European nights ever
• Tottenham have one of the best training grounds in the entire Europe, a state-of-art facility that helps Poch in development of young footballers
• Poch is commited to a long term project that sees Tottenham winning 3 Champions League titles and 5 Premier League titles within the next 10-year span

You forgot to mention that Delle Alli is better than Pogba.

 

[Salus Populi Suprema Lex]

Keano for the rest of the season.

 

[macheda14]

You know they're building a brand new stadium as well?

I genuinely think our fanbase has gone delusional if they think Pochettino is a realistic option at this point, or in the summer for that matter. I just can't see from his perspective why he would make the move, unless there's massive bad blood between him and Levi or something.

Which is smaller than Old Trafford..

 

[keithsingleton]

Always sad to see a manager lose his job at our great club. Obviously shows our team in turmoil at present. It's going to be a long winter/summer for our fans and can't expect anything over the next six months.

Only one man to replace him which is Poch. No ex United player as none proven in a managers roll just jet.

 

[Djemba-Djemba]

Day one aside, he's been fecking unbearably negative since the beginning of pre-season this summer. So why would anyone be surprised when he gets sacked after his team play unbearably negative football?

Aside from the first month of his first season, right after the Europa League final, and the first 6 weeks of his 2nd season he's been miserable and dour his entire reign.

It's like the first sign each season that things weren't going to be perfect he'd just throw a strop and sulk for the rest of the year. The difference this year is that he sulked and gave up before the campaign even started this time.

 

[Ban]

Can we send him a DVD of Andy Robertson’s runs as a Christmas present. He seems to really like those.

Better to send it to Ed.

 

[Kaos]

He’s labelled as a perennial bottler that’s won feck all (and perhaps rightly so) but I’m still curious as to how well he’d do with deeper pockets. Honestly id just take us playing the Spurs brand of football at this point.

 

[Cal?]

Seriously people can’t be that dumb. He’s not auditioning or interim manager, you give him 4-5 year contract if you want him. Pep and Jose level wages. He’s the gold standard right now look at what is happening at real. Hes the difference.

Agreed with most of this, except what's happening at Real may have something to do with the best player ever leaving.

 

[André Dominguez]

Unfortunately for us, Jose's lost it. The game's moved on and he hasn't adapted well to the fact he's been left behind. So it's a good decision.

We need to make things right this time. A big overhaul is needed. Especially better training coaches and maybe a DoF. Someone who knows how to run a football club, not a cash cow.

Many of us portugeezers warned about that. His leadership is clearly outdated: top players nowadays are not taking the totalitarian role leader from no one.

The DoF is mandatory: the club needs to have a project to follow, no mather who's the manager in charge.

 

[BrianMcClair'sBarnet]

Harry Redknapp.

 

[Ban]

Like he would come.

 

[b20times]

Utd are just a sacking club now. Where has the United way gone? It's a shambles from top to bottom.

 

[WensleyMU]

Let's just hope the club has a clue going forward.

Jose got us back on track until this season, anyone who claims otherwise is a downright fool. We should have pushed on but clowns above him (and below) had other ideas.

 

[Robbie Boy]

We are in free fall

Just like Liverpool when they sacked Rodgers having had Hodgson before him and then hired Klopp?

 

[Sied]

So you keep saying, but actually that's not accurate.

Anyhow, the point is that it's delusional to imagine that Pochettino, just one year after signing a new, long-term contract, is going to abandon Spurs and (likely) CL football next season to come manage a dysfunctional mess in the Europa League.

I like your optimism that we'll qualify for Europa.