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Imagine being stuck with a president that has dementia and there's nothing you can do?
Well there have been rumours about Reagan, he was officially diagnosed with Alzheimer's in '94 I think but there is speculation there were signs during his presidency.
 

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Imagine being stuck with a president that has dementia and there's nothing you can do?
There's a difference between a complete amateur trying to fit into one of the toughest jobs in the world and a mentally ill person. This is the former.
 

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That's a total mischaracterisation of this thread and the people who post in it.
Sorry, if it came across that way. I was not specifically talking about this thread. I was talking in general about the media, pundits, commentators, social media, late night shows, etc. - the whole gambit which has essentially created "Trump". They did it before the election and they have been doing it since. Seeing Don Lemon's morose look and demeanor makes me want to throw things. And he is just one example.

I would go in more detail but Brwned and the onearsenal guy have presented the argument better than I ever could.
 

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He will have to go down as the worst President in history.

And that's saying something.
That was a given the second he came down that escalator and called a whole demographic of people murderers and rapists.
 

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I've seen Presidential historians rank him last already. Also, and it is concerning for me that I have to ask this- who are you comparing him too?
Dumbest possibly but nowhere near the worst. We've had many president with far higher body counts. We've had other presidents who were rapists and other presidents who owned slaves.
 

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Dumbest possibly but nowhere near the worst. We've had many president with far higher body counts. We've had other presidents who were rapists and other presidents who owned slaves.
This guy is as good as a rapist. If he could He would own slaves. Washington owned slaves...and when was that?
Trump is simply The worst. You have to reach up to get to Buchanan.
Lets not talk President. he does not have the maturity of a 12 year old. And I'm probably insulting any 12 year old by saying that.
 

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This guy is as good as a rapist. If he could He would own slaves. Washington owned slaves...and when was that?
Trump is simply The worst. You have to reach up to get to Buchanan.
Lets not talk President. he does not have the maturity of a 12 year old. And I'm probably insulting any 12 year old by saying that.
He's responsible for far less deaths than even a guy this century.
 

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Dubya caused the death of half a million in Iraq war and it's aftermath.
Ah. For a second I thought you meant Johnson.

Dumbest possibly but nowhere near the worst. We've had many president with far higher body counts. We've had other presidents who were rapists and other presidents who owned slaves.
The rapists could include Clinton I'm guessing?
 

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Dubya started a programme to combat HIV/AIDS which has saved 18 million lives in Africa.

Perhaps if he hadn't been swayed by Cheney and Rumsfeld on Iraq he would be remembered in a better light.
 

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He's responsible for far less deaths than even a guy this century.
He is far too busy lining his pockets. Its not because he has any moral compass.
is he better than Johnson?
American Foreign policy is a separate discussion. This guy does not have the intellect to have any such important idea. He sucks Putin's cock. That is as far as his foreign policy goes.
 

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Sorry, if it came across that way. I was not specifically talking about this thread. I was talking in general about the media, pundits, commentators, social media, late night shows, etc. - the whole gambit which has essentially created "Trump". They did it before the election and they have been doing it since. Seeing Don Lemon's morose look and demeanor makes me want to throw things. And he is just one example.

I would go in more detail but Brwned and the onearsenal guy have presented the argument better than I ever could.
Not to quibble with you too much now but your words were "Criminal justice reform bill gets may be 10 posts but a toilet paper struck on Trump shoes get 10 pages.". Hard to see that as being anything other than about the people who post here to be honest.
 

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He is far too busy lining his pockets. Its not because he has any moral compass.
is he better than Johnson?
American Foreign policy is a separate discussion. This guy does not have the intellect to have any such important idea. He sucks Putin's cock. That is as far as his foreign policy goes.
Its not separate discussion, it's a hard part of judging presidents.
 

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Isolationism is not an option. While we need to not get involved in every conflict, we sometimes have to.
It’s also incredibly dangerous in that it would give the US’s autocratic adversaries free reign to go full on neo-imperialist to fill the void. Just look at Putin’s work in Ukraine and Syria during the feckless Obama/Trump years and China’s descent into SE Asia and Africa. As long as the international system remains anarchic, the US will continue to compete for market share with its autocratic rivals, and having a democratic state running the show is far more preferable than a mafia dictatorship or quasi Communist autocracy.
 

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It’s also incredibly dangerous in that it would give the US’s autocratic adversaries free reign to go full on neo-imperialist to fill the void. Just look at Putin’s work in Ukraine and Syria during the feckless Obama/Trump years and China’s descent into SE Asia and Africa. As long as the international system remains anarchic, the US will continue to compete for market share with its autocratic rivals, and having a democratic state running the show is far more preferable than a mafia dictatorship or quasi Communist autocracy.
Democratic bombs and drone strikes do the same damage as authoritarian bombs and drone strikes.
 

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I'm not sure it mattered to the people of South America that a democratic state helped topple democratically elected governments and supported brutal dictatorships, instead of an autocratic one.
 

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It’s also incredibly dangerous in that it would give the US’s autocratic adversaries free reign to go full on neo-imperialist to fill the void. Just look at Putin’s work in Ukraine and Syria during the feckless Obama/Trump years and China’s descent into SE Asia and Africa. As long as the international system remains anarchic, the US will continue to compete for market share with its autocratic rivals, and having a democratic state running the show is far more preferable than a mafia dictatorship or quasi Communist autocracy.
Internationally we need to remain engaged. Diplomacy. Analysis of the situation in different parts of the world. Having said that I very much deride many of the things we have done in the past.
Bending over to a tin pot despot like Kim and a KGB thug is not making peace.
It is essential we maintain the most powerful Air Force. Diplomacy from strength.
We need to strengthen our old alliances that fought with us against evil regimes.

Importantly our friends need to respect and be able to depend on us and our word.
This will make autocratic regimes think many times before they try anything.
 

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Internationally we need to remain engaged. Diplomacy. Analysis of the situation in different parts of the world. Having said that I very much deride many of the things we have done in the past.
Bending over to a tin pot despot like Kim and a KGB thug is not making peace.
It is essential we maintain the most powerful Air Force. Diplomacy from strength.
We need to strengthen our old alliances that fought with us against evil regimes.

Importantly our friends need to respect and be able to depend on us and our word.
This will make autocratic regimes think many times before they try anything.
Correct.
 
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