I agree, without a DOF how can we expect to play attacking football or win as much as 4 straight league games with our horrendous structure?
Like Madrid and Chelsea?
What next for Mourinho?
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) was joined by comedian Ali Woods to look back at the best and worst moments of a rollercoaster season with the annual United Hour Awards.
Has Ten Hag been sacked yet? We're not sure and we hope not, but it's looking more likely as the days pass.
Who should replace him and why is it taking so long to make a decision?
Best fecked-up manager ever!
Go to Madrid, please
Go to Madrid, please
Nothing new there tbh, the job was too big for him. He's simply admitting that he's not a Fergie. He needs a well organized club where he just comes in and does the tactics.
Tbf, the man says so many silly things that we can't focus on all at onceWait, he is not getting any abuse for saying that finishing second with United is one of the best jobs he's done? What a cnut.
But still, that's just blindly holding on to his view that this team lacks quality... same team that has gone on to win 6 straight matches
In @Pogue Mahone voice, have a word with yourself..
Even at that, he's failing woefully these days as OGS has proved in the past few games
Isn't that what he's doing? Cozying up to Bein which is run by Nasser Al-Khelaifi, who incidentally also runs PSG
He's said it before a couple of times when he was our manager. Not even worth the energy that guy.Wait, he is not getting any abuse for saying that finishing second with United is one of the best jobs he's done? What a cnut.
Why should we care? His CV would look crap if he puts "Finished 2nd with United" as his best achievement over "Won PL with Chelsea" or "Won La Liga with Real"Wait, he is not getting any abuse for saying that finishing second with United is one of the best jobs he's done? What a cnut.
It is a beautiful when a manager says that he is in the elite tier after begging for support when it comes to managing players.
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That's a bit too graphic.
Didnt watch the vids but he still looks miserable from the pic links 
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How did that not become legion when he was here? It's so good, it should have gone viral! Tell us what you really think, Dwazza!100 percent spot on.
Mourinho really did a number on a lot of fans.
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He'll fit right in there, they cant score to save their lives.
Look, I will not sit here and justify everything Jose did. I am not cut that way. God knows he screwed up and deservedly got fired. And to even make him look worse, Ole is doing fabulously well. That is not my point. My point is that I still like the guy and think history will not be too harsh on his time here after all the emotions and sentiments have waned. I think that for people to say liking him makes one less of a United fan or look bad is ridiculous to me. And for me, not liking him shouldn't mean that whatever he says is rubbish or he is a fraud as some have said here. Well, they are perfectly entitled to their opinions.
I think the fundamentals of his narrative about club structure are correct regardless of how he is viewed as a manager or person. The top clubs in the modern game have to look at their structures because a lot of things have changed. Ole is fine today (and by the way, I voted for him to be signed up as our next permanent manager) but what happens tomorrow if a player starts disrupting his dressing room or some players want him out? Or maybe it will be Poch. What will happen then? If people think it is just Jose that experiences dressing room unrest or problems with specific star players then they have probably forgotten the travails of Carlo Ancellotti, one of the finest gentlemen out there or Pep with Zlatan, Etoo, Yaya Toure or with Sane or at Bayern with some of the senior lads.
It is even getting worse now. Player power is real in modern football and clubs must develop models to manage their relationships with gaffers. Maybe Jose was a real prick. But that does not change the reality that our boys largely screwed him up - justified or not. We can praise Ole to high heavens and he deserves it but it is clear the boys have raised their games.
For me, we should go ahead and get a very good DoF who can handle the football side of the club while the manager focuses on the actual field performance. This looks like the model of the near future for top teams.
He might win a title in Portugal, China or Qatar, but no way he'll get another in one of the top5 leagues in Europe unless PSG or Juve go full-on dinosaur.
The manager still remains the most important person, have to disagree with Mou. In his case, you would rather get rid of him than a handful of potentially world class players though.
Technically he might be right about not being the man responsible for selling Salah, someone else signed off on it, but it comes off as pretty clear that Mourinho wasn't all that interested in having him back from his loan.
“I have five wingers, if I lose one maybe I am interested in another but at this moment I have balance and quality and numbers.”
“[But Salah,] I see his future elsewhere. Either on loan or sold with an offer we are happy to accept. We have five wingers and it is better not to have Salah back.”
He's gone on a pretty pathetic rant tonight.
Basically because he can't maintain a decent human relationship with players anymore the clubs structure must have been wrong.
It's a continuation of the same shite. Someone else is always to blame.
Basically because he can't maintain a decent human relationship with players anymore the clubs structure must have been wrong.
It's a continuation of the same shite. Someone else is always to blame.
Not sure what you are referring to as BS but I like sticking to the point. We can go on and on about Jose's personality, history and whatever. He is not exactly a likeable character and that perhaps might be why I like him because I tend to take a second look at people most others love to hate. But that's me and it's besides the reality of the point which is that football has changed and clubs must structure properly in line with the change. I said it like a year ago: remove Jose but leave other things as they are and we will soon be in another mess. Why has Manchester United struggled since Sir Alex left? People actually blame Moyes, LVG and Jose entirely for it and already believe that just having Ole or Poch alone will get us back to the dizzying heights we were before. Big mistake. We have struggled because of a combination of reasons one of which is the very system and structure that made us hire the three managers in the first instance. We have serious catching up to do as a club. The right manager, the right players, a DoF, the right recruitment system, the right structure. I think pretty much everyone agrees that Jose is a prick, even those of us that like him.In fairness, this just sounds like a bunch of bs based on nothing more than a personal opinion. Historically, Mourinho has had major dressing room and management issues at most of the clubs he's been involved with, this goes back to the days of Sir Alex having full control as well. Chelsea, Real Madrid, Chelsea again and finally at Manchester United. In the past 15 years he's been at 5 clubs, only club he hasn't had major issues with in that time was inter, and we're supposed to believe that this marks the end of managers being in full control with absolute authority ?
Transfer fees have increased exponentially, mostly due to increased revenues.
Why hasn't Klopp had any major issues restructuring Liverpool, or Poch, Guardiola ? Yet the one manager consistently getting sacked because he's an miserable cnut, getting sacked once more because he's a cnut, is supposed to mark a major shift in power meaning that we'll struggle to change anything in the future. Christ
So don't worry trying to list his screw ups .You are both right. It isn't one or the other. Mourinho struggles to maintain good relationships with all players, but the structure of the club during his time here was also very poor. The example for the latter was to give him a new contract and then refuse to back him properly in the Summer.
That's not exactly difficult, is it?
A handful of games is relatively easy. Let's talk about dominating the league again. We will need a DoF or give Ole, Poch or whoever, Sir Alex's kind of power.
Solid post.
Makes a lot of sense.
Funny that Jose because other top managers such as Pep, Zidane, Klopp, Allegri and Ole (
) have no trouble getting a positive response from their players.Same old worn out excuses.
He also looks more relaxed
Never seen him as a pundit before, looks oddly jovial.
I doubt he wants to do it full time but, he is probably a great pundit.
He looked relaxed day after he was fired.
As would anyone who's been let off work while pocketing 10+million.
I'm struggling to understand why you are so hell bent on pushing a narrative that is simply not true, at all. If a manager falls out with one player while the rest are performing and the team is performing well, there's no issue whatsoever, the player in question will receive little or no support from the rest of the squad as he's the one behaving badly, the club will also be more than happy to sell him to prevent him from disrupting the rest of the squad. If the manager falls out with the majority of the squad and the team is not performing either (they usually go hand in hand..), then it's pretty clear that the reasons are slightly more complicated than "player power", and it's also pretty clear that the end result will always be that the manager has to go, no club no matter what structure they have is going to replace the majority of the squad.
Ancelotti is a great manager, but he was the wrong choice after someone like Guardiola, the Bayern players were used to a certain approach and Ancelotti was the exact opposite. Had nothing to do with him being a gentleman, his methods simply didn't work. He didn't fall out with one player, two players, he fell out with the squad over training methods and his approach to matches. Guardiola has had issues with individual players, never an entire squad, that's the major difference. How many Barcelona players were against the departure of Zlatan, Etoo, how many City players were going up against Guardiola to defend Yaya Toure ? Comparing this to Mourinho's history is an insult.
Furthermore, the desire to rewrite history in order to defend Mourinho is borderline absurd. You're arguing for a model that Mourinho dislikes, he was strongly against a DOF at Manchester United and he had a power struggle with Valdano at Real Madrid which resulted in the latter getting sacked, with Perez stating the following "The experience of the season just ended has shown the need for new organisation at the club, giving autonomy to our coach". Yet you expect us to jump on your claim that it's our structure that's the problem ? if we had a DOF during Mourinho's 2,5 seasons he would've been in a power struggle with the poor bugger from day one over which players to sign and which players to get rid of.
Like the majority i do agree that we should restructure the club and opt for a director of football, but pretending that our current structure, the same that Fergie worked with, is the major issue is insane.
It's only the same structure that brought Fergie a shitload of success.Not sure what you are referring to as BS but I like sticking to the point. We can go on and on about Jose's personality, history and whatever. He is not exactly a likeable character and that perhaps might be why I like him because I tend to take a second look at people most others love to hate. But that's me and it's besides the reality of the point which is that football has changed and clubs must structure properly in line with the change. I said it like a year ago: remove Jose but leave other things as they are and we will soon be in another mess. Why has Manchester United struggled since Sir Alex left? People actually blame Moyes, LVG and Jose entirely for it and already believe that just having Ole or Poch alone will get us back to the dizzying heights we were before. Big mistake. We have struggled because of a combination of reasons one of which is the very system and structure that made us hire the three managers in the first instance. We have serious catching up to do as a club. The right manager, the right players, a DoF, the right recruitment system, the right structure. I think pretty much everyone agrees that Jose is a prick, even those of us that like him.